Question Wall Ethernet cables - why not separate?

[mortain]

Hello,

I would need some help from the skilled participants in the forum.
I have a router: Zyxel VMG8825-T50K. An ethernet cable goes from the router to a room with a wall mounted socket: wall mount which has two outputs.
One of the ouputs go to a wi-fi point: wi-fi point wap6807
I was looking to connect the other output to a camera: camera, which is nearby the wall socket.

However in these scenarios this happens:
(1) connect one output to the camera and one output to the wi-fi point -> both don't work.
(2) connect one outout to the wi-fi point and the camera via daisy chain from the wi-fi point, both works
(3) connect one output to the camera, and no connection to the wi-fi point, the camera works

Any suggestion on how to get both devices: camera and wi-fi point running from the wall socket, please?
Scenario (2) is not ideal as I would need a long cable across the room.

PDF - show diagram

Regards,
Antonio

 

[bill001g]

Why can you not just use the daisy chain method, what disadvantage do you see.

Your problem is likely exactly as you drew it. Each device needs its own cable to the router. There likely is only 1 wire and not 2 running between the router and the wall jack. If there is a second wire I guess you could connect that to the router also.

So the very hard way would be to find a way to run a second wire from the router though the wall to the jack.

The second way is to use a small switch that allows multiple devices to share the single cable......But that is what you are basically doing when you plug the camera into the AP.

 

[SkyNetRising]

Each wall mount lan port requires a separate cable to router.
If you have only one cable from router to wall mount, then only one port is operational.

 

[Ralston18]

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[mortain]

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Hello,

I have uploaded the image:

https://imgur.com/me3uxOT

View: https://imgur.com/me3uxOT

 

[mortain]

Why can you not just use the daisy chain method, what disadvantage do you see.

Your problem is likely exactly as you drew it. Each device needs its own cable to the router. There likely is only 1 wire and not 2 running between the router and the wall jack. If there is a second wire I guess you could connect that to the router also.

So the very hard way would be to find a way to run a second wire from the router though the wall to the jack.

The second way is to use a small switch that allows multiple devices to share the single cable......But that is what you are basically doing when you plug the camera into the AP.

The wi-fi point is on the opposite side of the room, and the cable goes under the plinth.
The camera is near the wall mount.
I would need a cable to go from one corner to the other corner of the house.

I can see that the all mount has: https://www.koppstore.nl/33369402-uae-sokkel-voor-telefoon-en-data-2-voudig.html separate lines...but maybe that's not the case.

Can you exaplin which switch I can use to multiply the devices?

Thanks

 

[mortain]

Each wall mount lan port requires a separate cable to router.
If you have only one cable from router to wall mount, then only one port is operational.

Thanks for the reply.
I am just wondering why the company making the wall mount talks about:
https://www.koppstore.nl/33369402-uae-sokkel-voor-telefoon-en-data-2-voudig.html - Separate connection
https://www.koppstore.nl/33369401-uae-sokkel-voor-telefoon-en-data-2-voudig.html - Parallel connection

Any idea?

Thanks

 

[bill001g]

It will be impossible for anyone on this forum to say what is installed in the walls of your house that is something you are going to have to investigate.

The jacks you link are technically telephone jacks since they say they are cat3. The jacks though could be easily replaced if there is a issue. They will likely work. The harder thing is what wires are connected to the jacks and where do they go.

You need to think about this more simply. If you had the router and the 2 devices in the same room you would take a cable and connect between the router and each device using a separate cable.

Now pretend you take really long wires and run them over the floor between the rooms to connect between the router and the 2 devices. If you did this before the walls were finished you could run the wires through the walls.

Now your challenge is to try to figure out what someone else did before you when they installed your current wall jacks. Your end goal is to see how similar it is to if you had run them yourself.

If there is only 1 wire in the wall then only 1 device can be attached. You can use any cheap switch like say a

Amazon.com

This is a gigabit switch you can save about $5 if you buy tenda brand or if you run 10/100 rather than gigabit.

All you would do is plug a cable into the wall jack and then plug other devices into the switch. Although it is not really a splitter many people call a switch a splitter even though it does much more.

 

[mortain]

It will be impossible for anyone on this forum to say what is installed in the walls of your house that is something you are going to have to investigate.

The jacks you link are technically telephone jacks since they say they are cat3. The jacks though could be easily replaced if there is a issue. They will likely work. The harder thing is what wires are connected to the jacks and where do they go.

You need to think about this more simply. If you had the router and the 2 devices in the same room you would take a cable and connect between the router and each device using a separate cable.

Now pretend you take really long wires and run them over the floor between the rooms to connect between the router and the 2 devices. If you did this before the walls were finished you could run the wires through the walls.

Now your challenge is to try to figure out what someone else did before you when they installed your current wall jacks. Your end goal is to see how similar it is to if you had run them yourself.

If there is only 1 wire in the wall then only 1 device can be attached. You can use any cheap switch like say a

Amazon.com

This is a gigabit switch you can save about $5 if you buy tenda brand or if you run 10/100 rather than gigabit.

All you would do is plug a cable into the wall jack and then plug other devices into the switch. Although it is not really a splitter many people call a switch a splitter even though it does much more.

Thanks!!! This is the answer