Question Want to make an uber-build, budget $4k+ish, give or take, depending

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Approximate Purchase Date: Sometime October or November 2019... basically I want to build this time in time for Doom Eternal. I am using this computer for more than that but that's just to give you some sense of when I want this thing to be ready.

Budget Range: $4k+ including parts, shipping, etc, after rebates. This is just my max budget and not necessarily what I want to spend, just a max threshold indicating "Ehhhh I'm getting wary about going beyond this..." but it's... the budget. If something really cool requires going over budget I'm open to it but it'd have to be really sweet.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, coding, multitasking (Chrome, virtual machines, Photoshop, Steam, coding IDEs, streaming / OBS, etc). Ideally would love two monitors where on one monitor I can game at max settings at high framerate (i.e. 1440p at 144 Hz, max settings), and the other monitor doing whatever multitasking stuff I'm doing without anything slowing down or even giving the slightest hint of struggle, I want this thing to be overkill.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Parts to Upgrade: I guess it would be... everything, since I am starting from scratch. Motherboard, video card, Wifi card probably?, hard drives, RAM, PSU, some kind of cooling solution, case, operating system, etc.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Dunno yet what all my options are

Location: Jersey City, New Jersey / New York City, New York

Parts Preferences: Just to give an idea of what I've been looking at so far, but I am open to other suggestions.

-32 GB at least, since I am constantly needing to close stuff on my current machine at 16 GB, which is very limiting... I wouldn't be against going clear up to 64 GB either just because why not. Had been looking at Corsair Dominators and G. Skill Tridents but still unsure what is the best option here.

-I think for the video card I'll probably want something high-end like the 2080 ti (as far as I'm aware), though I don't know if I should get one or two, or a different card altogether, etc.

-CPU I was eyeing the Ryzen 9 3950x CPU (12 cores and 24 threads!) but it's not out yet.

-For motherboard, I presume something in the x570 series? Dunno.

-Hard drives... definitely solid state, would like a couple TB at least.

-Power supply I don't want to skimp on either, whatever will be more than enough to power everything.

-Case... I presume something full size? Easy to open and access / maintain stuff. My desk is adjustable-height so I can make stuff work (this tower would be going on the ground). I don't really care about RGB, but a few tasteful lights never hurt either, whatever looks sleek. I just don't want it looking like a disco rave, that's a little much. Ideally black case.

-Monitor, would like two, at least one of them 27" for 1440p gaming. Maybe a second one for coding, streaming, chat, Chrome, whatever, would be cool if this were also 27" but I'd have to see if I have room for it. Would likely need a dual VESA mount or whatever.

-Cooling I am all ears, I know very little about this. I've never done watercooling before, might that be a fun/worthwhile thing to do here?

Overclocking: Probably, yeah, lol

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe... from what I hear it's not really worth it currently

Your Monitor Resolution: I want to be able to game at 1440p, 144 Hz, max settings

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: For once I just want to go nuts and make an uber-desktop machine that will take whatever I throw at it without me worrying about the thing melting on me, slowing down, etc.
 
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PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i9-9980XE 3 GHz 18-Core Processor | $1925.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $129.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro ATX LGA2066 Motherboard | $239.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $154.95 @ Adorama
Storage | Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $94.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB SEA HAWK X Video Card (2-Way SLI) | $1129.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB SEA HAWK X Video Card (2-Way SLI) | $1129.99 @ Newegg
Case | Deepcool MATREXX 70 ATX Mid Tower Case | $75.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Rosewill 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $144.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $5096.86
| Mail-in rebates | -$70.00
| Total | $5026.86
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-05 08:53 EDT-0400 |

Here was my build-out of the 5k rig section.
Overkill in every way and nicknamed "Extreme Firepower"

But for gaming mainly, you may want a different cpu. The 12 core 3900x has been released, but the 16 core 3950x will be released in September.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
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CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor | $499.00 @ B&H
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $129.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix X570-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard | $289.99 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $143.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $181.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB SEA HAWK X Video Card (2-Way SLI) | $1129.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB SEA HAWK X Video Card (2-Way SLI) | $1129.99 @ Newegg
Case | Deepcool MATREXX 70 ATX Mid Tower Case | $75.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Rosewill 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $144.99 @ Amazon
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $99.99 @ Best Buy
Monitor | Sceptre E255B-1658A 24.5" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor | $164.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $4060.79
| Mail-in rebates | -$70.00
| Total | $3990.79
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-05 08:52 EDT-0400 |
 
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Thank you for the sample builds.

Some questions:

Any particular reason for CL16 3200-MHz RAM as opposed to 3600 MHz or something with e.g. CL14 or 15?

For the video cards, what is the SEA HAWK X designation and why two in SLI / to what ends does this assist that 1 would not?

For the case, why mid tower? I assume just because a full is not needed?

PSU, 1200W, this seems high but I assume it's because of the two video cards?

The monitor, maybe I am misreading but it does not seem to be 1440p?

Storage, why the Intel 660p over something like the Inland Premium or similar drives?


Motherboard, I figured X570 series would be a good pick (esp. if I go for the 3950X etc) but any reason behind this particular model / what does the GAMING part provide?
 
Thank you for the sample builds.

Some questions:

Any particular reason for CL16 3200-MHz RAM as opposed to 3600 MHz or something with e.g. CL14 or 15?

For the video cards, what is the SEA HAWK X designation and why two in SLI / to what ends does this assist that 1 would not?

For the case, why mid tower? I assume just because a full is not needed?

PSU, 1200W, this seems high but I assume it's because of the two video cards?

The monitor, maybe I am misreading but it does not seem to be 1440p?

Storage, why the Intel 660p over something like the Inland Premium or similar drives?


Motherboard, I figured X570 series would be a good pick (esp. if I go for the 3950X etc) but any reason behind this particular model / what does the GAMING part provide?
Really faster ram provides only a little performance increase and costs much more.

The sea hawk cards are liquid cooled and 2 is just because of the budget. You really should go for 1 as sli scaling is poor and it leaves more budget optn.

I picked that case because it had room for the 360mm aio. If you are going with ryzen, this is overkill.

A lot of watts is needed for sli 2080ti

Yea, that monitor isn't 1440p

The intel drives are pretty fast NVME units, while not costing much.
 
PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor | $499.00 @ B&H
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $97.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix X570-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard | $289.99 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $299.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $181.89 @ OutletPC
Storage | Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $181.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AMP MAXX Video Card | $1099.99 @ B&H
Case | Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case | $89.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply | Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $79.99 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $99.99 @ Best Buy
Monitor | Acer XZ271U bmijpphzx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor | $299.99 @ Walmart
Monitor | AOC 27V2H 27.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor | $154.99 @ Walmart
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $3395.69
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $3375.69
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-05 09:33 EDT-0400 |

Heres a build that addresses most of that.

I find the need for over 3200mhz unnecessary.

The 240mm aio is also a better fit and the motherboard looks pretty good. Ryzen 12 cores are actually more efficient that intels i9 9900k.

I went for 1 air-cooled gpu. Due to poor sli scaling, 1 gpu is almost as fast as 2. Also, air cooled cards are easier to install.

I went with a known good case with plenty of airflow.

2 massive NVMEs. You cant get an NVME much larger than 2tb.

More reasonable PSU. Still of good quality and plenty of watts.

2x27in monitors. One 1440p 144hz for gaming, and a 1080p 75hz for everything else.
 
An 8-core, 16-thread i9-9900K might also be worth considering for a high-end gaming system like that. It has fewer cores, but those cores are a bit faster in games, which can result in a bit higher frame rates when targeting 144fps with capable graphics hardware. A higher core count processor like the 12-core, 24 thread Ryzen 3900X might be worth considering for more stable performance while streaming though, particularly if you plan to keep the hardware in-use for some years. Something like the 18-core, 36-thread i9-9980XE would probably be a waste though, unless perhaps one were making heavy use of software that could fully utilize that many threads. Even then, the upcoming 16-core, 32-thread Ryzen 3950X will likely offer similar performance at a fraction of the cost. Either way, for gaming, most of those cores would be sitting around not doing anything.
 
That motherboard has a lot of VRM phases and should happily supply a 12 core or the upcoming 16 core Ryzen CPU should you choose to upgrade in the future.
As I said above, the 12 cores are pretty efficient when compared to an I9 9900k.

64GB 3600mhz kits cost a lot. The 3200mhz kit is only slightly slower. The real performance increase with 3600mhz comes with the faster Infinity fabric clock, but with some overclocking, you can oc the infinity fabric for similar performance.
 
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I notice that the x570 boards have these onboard fans... are these easily replaceable down the road? In my experience, dead fans are a quick way to wreck the rest of the machine.
 

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