Question Want to replace my i5 3570k...

[Demalii]

Hello, when I got my 3570k and z77 board, I never overclocked because the board does that turbo thing... I want to upgrade but I don't know what a mid range cpu/mobo setup is these days... budget is 350 +\-

I prefer to stick to intel and my budget can vary, if anyone has any input please let me know, I'm behind the times, but my cpu/mobo is like 5 or 6 years old now..

I game heavily, generally max settings of gfx, as well I do some image and sound creation. Thanks for any help!

 

[Eximo]

If the goal is primarily gaming, you might want to invest in a new GPU instead.

3570k is a little old, but still decent for gaming.

If you want to upgrade it anyway, the only comparable mid-range option would be the I5-9600k, some DDR4, and a Z370 or Z390 motherboard. That will go over $350. (And a CPU cooler)

To keep it in budget you would need to look at something like an i5-9400, a B365 or B360 motherboard. You won't be able to overclock at all. Certainly faster than your current CPU, but it is a limited platform.

Intel really isn't the proper mid-range choice at the moment. For a very low price you can get an Ryzen R5-2600, a cheap B350 motherboard, and some DDR4 for less than $300. You can overclock that. To compete directly with Intel's offerings, Ryzen 3rd gen hardware is available. More expensive for being new, but it pretty much outshines performance for dollar at all but the highest end consumer CPUs. Ryzen 3600 would be the proper mid-range pick, but will put you in the $400 range, vs the 9600k which would land you in at around $450.

 

[Demalii]

Hey thanks a lot for the info! I have a 1070 and just thought I might bottleneck if I go to the 2xxx Nvidia series..

As well I'm still on ddr3 and thought I could squeeze a little more juice if I went to new cpu/mobo combo and ddr4.?

Think the difference from my 3570k to this amd build is worth it? I feel like the thread count makes it worth it..

 

[logainofhades]

Do you happen to live near a microcenter? That might help you get a great deal, on CPU, motherboard, and ram. I also agree that AMD is the way to go, for a midrange offering. The 6 core i5's have frametime variance issues, in modern titles, that the AMD 6 cores do not, as the AMD are a 6c/12t cpu.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.20 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GT 29.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $348.17
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If you want to wait it out another year or two, you could drop in a 3770k, or an E3 1230v2, or higher, CPU. That would give you 4c/8t, to better handle newer titles, vs what your 3570k can handle. Motherboard support being the main factor, on that front.

 

[OllympianGamer]

Past few years I've been like you and religiously bought intel but after building a 2600 rig I can honestly recommend switching to Ryzen, the price to performance is unbeatable.

 

[Demalii]

The 3770 would double the threads which I think is what I could use at this point and why I want to upgrade, I feel 6core is widely underused and will be for years so I don't care about 4 vs 6 core.. hmm I will consider an and build, but it's been years since I did amd

Ok, thanks so much for the info really.. you've all helped guide me!

 

[logainofhades]

Actually a 6c/6t would be overused, in modern titles. An 8 thread capable CPU, is really the minimum, these days, for modern games. Shadow of the Tomb Raider, for instance, can use most of an R5 3600's cores/threads. The Ryzen 5 1600 has surpassed the 7600k, in such titles, while older games, the 7600k was the clear winner. We are finally reaching a multi-threaded era. The R5 3600 outshines the 9600k, in said titles as well, providing a smoother gaming experience.

 

[Demalii]

Soooo, then I'm highly considering the 3600.. will the chip run in turbo if I set it to? Like my 3570k? I rather enjoyed not spending weeks tweeting stuff, and because of my job situation I'm unable to push overclocking and replace if need be.

Also, is b450 best chipset? I will spend the money, just doesn't make sense to me to overspend when the curve of performance drops rapidly.. as well if I do decide to overclock, should I consider the 3600x?

 

[Stealth2668]

I'm also looking to upgrade my i5-4670k. Torn between the 3600/X and 9600k. I was under the impression that games don't use HT/SMT so I was leaning towards intel for slightly higher ipc. Do games actually use HT/SMT these days? I haven't been following since 2014 when I built my 4670k pc.

 

[Jusco]

Get the newer i5 9400L it’s fast and cheap!

 

[AdmiralDonut]

Get the newer i5 9400L it’s fast and cheap!

It has less threads than the R5 3600, is the same price, has less L3 cache, and lower clockspeeds. That isn't remotely what I'd consider worth getting. Right now, there is no good reason to buy anything from Intel, and there won't be for the foreseeable future.

 

[logainofhades]

Soooo, then I'm highly considering the 3600.. will the chip run in turbo if I set it to? Like my 3570k? I rather enjoyed not spending weeks tweeting stuff, and because of my job situation I'm unable to push overclocking and replace if need be.

Also, is b450 best chipset? I will spend the money, just doesn't make sense to me to overspend when the curve of performance drops rapidly.. as well if I do decide to overclock, should I consider the 3600x?

Yes the R5 3600 does have a boost feature. Turn on PBO and leave it alone. The ryzen 3000 series are already squeezing so much out of their architecture, that manual overclocking really isn't necessary, or worth the time, unless you really love to tinker. I run my 3700x, at stock, with PBO enabled.

 

[logainofhades]

I was under the impression that games don't use HT/SMT so I was leaning towards intel for slightly higher ipc.

That is no longer the case, for modern titles.