Warning Messages from AI suite II for a workstation.

[alexnode]

I am new to overclocking and I wouldn't probably do it if there weren't some easy tools like AI Suite II. Two days ago I built a machine for (slave) 3d rendering of animations it means it is under heavy load of 100% cpu and memory usage for days.

Every three hours I have a warning. Like one of these
[04/18/2013 at 12:54 am] +3.3V 0.768 Abnormal
[04/18/2013 at 12:54 am] +3.3V 3.360 Normal
[04/18/2013 at 02:27 am] MotherBoard -103.0 Abnormal
[04/18/2013 at 02:27 am] MotherBoard 30.0 Normal
[04/18/2013 at 09:41 am] +12V 0.000 Abnormal
[04/18/2013 at 09:41 am] +12V 12.096 Normal
[04/18/2013 at 10:59 am] Vcore 0.232 Abnormal
[04/18/2013 at 10:59 am] Vcore 1.036 Normal

My build is i7 2700K, corsair H100i cooler, 8GB corsair vengeance ram, a quadro 4000, M4 crucial 256, other HDs, With a corsair HX750 Modular PSU, 80 PLUS Gold. All this happens on a P8Z77-V motherboard with 1908 bios. I have a Windows 8 64 pro not activated yet since i might put it back to windows 7.

I haven't tweaked anything else apart from setting the 'auto tuning' to fast. It goes around 4.4 Ghz with 40 c to 45 c maximum temperature. Sometimes even lower !

Any help will be really appreciated.

 

[smorizio]

Sounds like under load the power supply crapping out on you. If you don't think it the ps I would update the mb bios to make sure it not a bios bug.

 

[mcnumpty23]

its AI suite thats the problem

does it all the time to me as well with my 2600k

using other software doesnt replicate the problem

 

[ihog]

Don't use auto-OC utilities. If you're going to overclock, set the bios settings manually and put the time and effort in to make sure your overclock is safe and stable.

 

[alexnode]

Sounds like under load the power supply crapping out on you. If you don't think it the ps I would update the mb bios to make sure it not a bios bug.

Hope the PSU is alright i got it used and i hope i won't regret it.
It is interesting, now it renders for 5 hours with no warning, and i haven't change anything. Bios was updated to latest version. Might need to update drivers to newer than the ones Asus provides. In a socket 2011- 3930k build, that i have as my main machine, there where all sort of old drivers i discovered. They were causing BSOD every now and then.
Is there anyway to do a stress test to psu ? I mean more stress than rendering for two days?

 

[mcnumpty23]

occt can stress test the psu if you really want to

but the minus 103c is a typical AI suite error--it might run fine for a day or a week

then AI suite pops up stupid errors for no reason

 

[alexnode]

its AI suite thats the problem

does it all the time to me as well with my 2600k

using other software doesnt replicate the problem

I thought about that, if it was happening more often it would be easy to check. Is there any good tool to monitor the MB/CPU/GPU ? I am recording the history from AI suite II and it seems that the vcore value fluctuates from 1.317v to 1.030v ( every 2 minutes when an image finishes rendering there is a little gap until the server processes and sends the next one ). The 12v is 12.096v all the time, 5v is 5.040v all the time and 3.3v is 3.360v but it has some minor drop to 3.350 at one point. )

It seems that it might be a good idea to try to OC from the bios and not from AI suite II at higher settings and see how it behaves.

 

[alexnode]

occt can stress test the psu if you really want to

but the minus 103c is a typical AI suite error--it might run fine for a day or a week

then AI suite pops up stupid errors for no reason

Vray renderer is very aggressive and uses the machine to the maximum. Usually at the height of the render it uses all 8 threads and even if i try to open explorer it takes ages ... i mean typing in notepad has a delay!
I am thinking that this happened to AI suite and it got the 0 readings. On the other hand i don't want to have a total meltdown !!!

 

[alexnode]

Don't use auto-OC utilities. If you're going to overclock, set the bios settings manually and put the time and effort in to make sure your overclock is safe and stable.

I will try that, even though i don't have a clue how, yet. Is it possible though to OC as turboboost? I mean when the full cooling kicks in it sounds a bit like a small jumbo jet ... it is ok for a bit when rendering final stuff but when someone is working on it he will go nuts after a few hours. 3.2.1 takeoff ...
Sorry but i don't have a clue about OC ... what i am asking is if i tinker it from bios when the machine is in normal workload will it go to 1500ghz and be nice and quiet?

 

[mcnumpty23]

i overclock in the bios--only installed AI suite for the usb boost and AI charger really

AI suite can pop up stupid warnings whether i have the cpu under load or on idle

though seem to get less warnings now with version 2 than i did with version 1.2.3

but they are still totally random

i usually have realtemp , cpuz and corsair link for my psu running

and none of those show any issues when AI suite does

 

[alexnode]

i overclock in the bios--only installed AI suite for the usb boost and AI charger really

AI suite can pop up stupid warnings whether i have the cpu under load or on idle

though seem to get less warnings now with version 2 than i did with version 1.2.3

but they are still totally random

i usually have realtemp , cpuz and corsair link for my psu running

and none of those show any issues when AI suite does

I will try that, have to dig a bit in this forum to find the optimal settings. Ai Suite II seems bloated. But it has some good programs. USB boost and charging is great , My logo, and reboot in bios are great ... and to be honest when i discovered that i can press a button and make the workstations 30% faster i couldn't believe it. We gained a full working day by pressing four buttons in four machines. Last time i tried to OC was 10 years ago an amd and i had terrible problems.

 

[mcnumpty23]

pushing the auto overclock button does tend to use too much voltage on the cpu--though its easy

only tried it once and for 4.8ghz it was putting over 1.5v and spiking 1.6v to the cpu

i shut it down immediately

4.4ghz on a 2700k should be pretty easy

my 2600k is at 5ghz

though you need decent cooling the higher you go

and yes it can downclock when idle--to 1600mhz

for 4.4ghz it may be as simple as putting the multiplier to 44

for 5ghz i had to tweak quite a few settings

 

[alexnode]

I did a simple manual overclock to multiplier 44 but i still keep the probe II and sensor apps. ~They are the only ones that get data from the mobo itself ... I did a lot of driver and firmware updates but i still get once a day the 12v 0.032 alert or . Any other ideas what it might fix that? By the way it does the same with no overclock at all !!!
my corsair vengeance c9 seems like being by default 1333ghz not 1600ghz. I change that in the bios and it works perfectly as 1600ghz. 9 9 9 27 if i remember correctly. IS that a problem with sandy bridge? IT is very frustrating when you have an error that appears once a day or two days. I change something and then I have to wait for days.

[04/19/2013 at 01:21 am] Back Fan 1136 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 01:22 am] Back Fan 1044 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 02:22 am] Vcore 0.008 Abnormal
[04/19/2013 at 02:22 am] Vcore 1.314 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 03:25 am] +3.3V 4.080 Abnormal
[04/19/2013 at 03:25 am] +3.3V 3.360 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 04:12 am] MotherBoard -62.0 Abnormal
[04/19/2013 at 04:49 am] CPU -128.0 Abnormal
[04/19/2013 at 04:50 am] CPU 46.0 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 08:23 am] +5V 0.160 Abnormal
[04/19/2013 at 08:23 am] +5V 5.040 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 08:28 am] +3.3V 0.064 Abnormal
[04/19/2013 at 08:28 am] +3.3V 3.360 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 01:15 pm] +5V 0.120 Abnormal
[04/19/2013 at 01:15 pm] +5V 5.040 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 04:32 pm] CPU -1.0 Abnormal
[04/19/2013 at 04:33 pm] CPU 43.0 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 04:42 pm] +3.3V 0.688 Abnormal
[04/19/2013 at 04:42 pm] +3.3V 3.360 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 06:28 pm] +12V 0.096 Abnormal
[04/19/2013 at 06:28 pm] +12V 12.096 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 06:50 pm] Back Fan 1201 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 09:57 pm] Vcore 0.032 Abnormal
[04/19/2013 at 09:57 pm] Vcore 1.316 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 10:30 pm] Vcore 2.040 Abnormal
[04/19/2013 at 10:30 pm] Vcore 1.320 Normal
[04/19/2013 at 11:57 pm] +3.3V 2.048 Abnormal
[04/19/2013 at 11:57 pm] +3.3V 3.360 Normal
[04/20/2013 at 08:09 am] CPU -1.0 Abnormal
[04/20/2013 at 08:09 am] CPU 50.0 Normal
[04/20/2013 at 09:54 am] MotherBoard -60.0 Abnormal
[04/20/2013 at 09:54 am] MotherBoard 41.0 Normal
[04/20/2013 at 11:14 am] Back Fan 1219 Normal
[04/22/2013 at 05:16 pm] +12V 0.384 Abnormal
[04/22/2013 at 05:16 pm] +12V 12.096 Normal

Unfortunately (or fortunately) i can't replicate the frequent errors i had on the 18th and 19th of april anymore.

 

[alexnode]

Things went really wrong lately ... the connection of the molex cable to the corsair 500r went on fire ! It was completely destroyed and I saved the computer and the office at the last minute by unplugging the mains.
I unplugged the molex completely moved the pc in the middle of the room and tried again without the case connected. The rest of the machine works fine but i am not leaving it on if i am not seeing it.

Corsair says to replace the front panel of the 500r! But i suspect that there are bigger problems with that build. I have all sort of builds that work perfectly and this one is wrong. I just thought afterwards that my wrong messages might have been caused from from the 500r but still ai suite ii posts problems, I have 4 machines with ai suite and i never saw a problem with warnings. I contacted Asus for the motherboard and they said that i should unistall all monitoring programs and reset cmos, i did it and no luck...
[04/22/2013 at 10:24 pm] +3.3V 3.360 Normal
[04/23/2013 at 05:30 am] +5V 8.600 Abnormal
[04/23/2013 at 05:30 am] +5V 5.040 Normal
[04/23/2013 at 06:26 am] +5V 0.000 Abnormal
[04/23/2013 at 06:26 am] +5V 5.040 Normal
[04/23/2013 at 08:18 am] +12V 0.000 Abnormal
[04/23/2013 at 08:18 am] +12V 12.096 Normal
[04/24/2013 at 11:51 pm] Vcore 0.120 Abnormal
[04/24/2013 at 11:51 pm] Vcore 1.050 Normal
[04/25/2013 at 06:15 pm] Vcore 0.006 Abnormal
[04/25/2013 at 06:16 pm] Vcore 1.142 Normal
[04/25/2013 at 07:05 pm] CPU -121.0 Abnormal
[04/25/2013 at 07:05 pm] CPU 30.0 Normal


2X P9X79 3930K At 4.2 Ghz,Corsair 400R case, Intel watercooling?, Samsung 830
512, 6TB HDs,Palit 660 GTX, Quadro 4000, TX650 corsair PSU, Windows 8 Pro 16GB
ram first workstation (2 x cmz8gx3m2a1600c9) second workstation
(khx1600c9d3k4/16gx),
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p8z77-v, i7 2700K, 256 M4 Crucial SSD, 12GB ram of 16gb (problems)
khx1600c9d3k4/16gx, corsair H100i, corsair 500r Case.

 

[ITZ420]

I believe this is a software problem not hardware. I have installed this software on at least 100 machines in the past,I am a PRO custom PC builder.My recent build today resulted in the same problem. This build consisted of all new products out of the box. The best money could but totaling Approx. $2375.00 Still same problem. I quit using the ASUS software myself years ago, But since it is packed with the ASUS software I try it everytime. Just to check. I use other programs and have no problems ,complaints,or crashes.

 

[alexnode]

Ai suite has some nice bits ... but it needs work. My problem stopped a few months ago. I did an upgrade and move my corsair AX 750 PSU to my new machine. I installed an older regular corsair 650 PSU to my old workstation and no warning anymore. I also installed quite a lot of updates in between so i am not 100% if the modular psu caused the problem.