was there a radeon 9700XT?

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For those who remember my mate who borrowed my 9800pro and then blah blah
blah.. well he told me this morning that someone wants to sell hom a 9700XT
for NZ$150 (US$80). I had a look on toms hardware and ati.com and no
mention of a 9700XT. Did one exist? It could be a 9800XT or a 9600XT and
he just got the name wrong. If one did exist, I assume it is realitive to
the 9700 as the 9800XT is to the 9800?
 

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"cowboyz" <me@here.now> wrote in message
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> For those who remember my mate who borrowed my 9800pro and then blah blah
> blah.. well he told me this morning that someone wants to sell hom a
9700XT
> for NZ$150 (US$80). I had a look on toms hardware and ati.com and no
> mention of a 9700XT. Did one exist? It could be a 9800XT or a 9600XT and
> he just got the name wrong. If one did exist, I assume it is realitive to
> the 9700 as the 9800XT is to the 9800?

No such thing as a 9700XT. Just straight 9700, 9700Pro, 9700 Pro AIW cards.
All are excellent cards. And seeing how a used 9700 Pro typically goes for
$300 to $325NZ on Ebay it's doubtful it's that.
 
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"cowboyz" <me@here.now> wrote in message
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> For those who remember my mate who borrowed my 9800pro and then blah blah
> blah.. well he told me this morning that someone wants to sell hom a
9700XT
> for NZ$150 (US$80). I had a look on toms hardware and ati.com and no
> mention of a 9700XT. Did one exist? It could be a 9800XT or a 9600XT and
> he just got the name wrong. If one did exist, I assume it is realitive to
> the 9700 as the 9800XT is to the 9800?
>
>
>
>

nope there was not a 9700xt
 
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Athura wrote:
> "cowboyz" <me@here.now> wrote in message
> news:c8haur$rlq$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> For those who remember my mate who borrowed my 9800pro and then blah
>> blah blah.. well he told me this morning that someone wants to sell
>> hom a 9700XT for NZ$150 (US$80). I had a look on toms hardware and
>> ati.com and no mention of a 9700XT. Did one exist? It could be a
>> 9800XT or a 9600XT and he just got the name wrong. If one did
>> exist, I assume it is realitive to the 9700 as the 9800XT is to the
>> 9800?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> nope there was not a 9700xt

As I thought. Now the real question is what card is this guy trying to pass
off. a 9600XT would be alright second hand at that price I surpose. They
still sell for NZ$400 here new. If it is a 9800XT then it will certainly be
a bargin.
 
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Augustus wrote:
> "cowboyz" <me@here.now> wrote in message
> news:c8haur$rlq$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> For those who remember my mate who borrowed my 9800pro and then blah
>> blah blah.. well he told me this morning that someone wants to sell
>> hom a 9700XT for NZ$150 (US$80). I had a look on toms hardware and
>> ati.com and no mention of a 9700XT. Did one exist? It could be a
>> 9800XT or a 9600XT and he just got the name wrong. If one did
>> exist, I assume it is realitive to the 9700 as the 9800XT is to the
>> 9800?
>
> No such thing as a 9700XT. Just straight 9700, 9700Pro, 9700 Pro AIW
> cards. All are excellent cards. And seeing how a used 9700 Pro
> typically goes for $300 to $325NZ on Ebay it's doubtful it's that.

Yeah. I been looking around at what they are going for. I am going to
check the card out for myself before my mate buys it tonight to find out
exactly what this guy is selling. My mate is sure he was told it was a
9700XT.
 
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Of course their were 9700XT cards they just were not called XT, cards
with faster ram, that could get you maybe 15% mor overclock, thats all
the XT stands for anyway.


On Fri, 21 May 2004 05:24:15 +1200, "cowboyz" <me@here.now> wrote:

>Augustus wrote:
>> "cowboyz" <me@here.now> wrote in message
>> news:c8haur$rlq$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> For those who remember my mate who borrowed my 9800pro and then blah
>>> blah blah.. well he told me this morning that someone wants to sell
>>> hom a 9700XT for NZ$150 (US$80). I had a look on toms hardware and
>>> ati.com and no mention of a 9700XT. Did one exist? It could be a
>>> 9800XT or a 9600XT and he just got the name wrong. If one did
>>> exist, I assume it is realitive to the 9700 as the 9800XT is to the
>>> 9800?
>>
>> No such thing as a 9700XT. Just straight 9700, 9700Pro, 9700 Pro AIW
>> cards. All are excellent cards. And seeing how a used 9700 Pro
>> typically goes for $300 to $325NZ on Ebay it's doubtful it's that.
>
>Yeah. I been looking around at what they are going for. I am going to
>check the card out for myself before my mate buys it tonight to find out
>exactly what this guy is selling. My mate is sure he was told it was a
>9700XT.
>
>
 

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I bet it's a 9200SE or 9600SE....if you're lucky it's a 9600XT. If you're
really lucky it's a 9700. That would be a great deal.
 
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We Live for the One we Die for the One wrote:

>
> Of course their were 9700XT cards they just were not called XT, cards
> with faster ram, that could get you maybe 15% mor overclock, thats all
> the XT stands for anyway.

No, that is not "all the XT stands for anyway". The Radeon 9800 pre-XT uses
the R350 chip, the Radeon 9600 pre-XT uses the RV350 chip. The XTs use the
R360 and RV360 which are made with a different substrate and have different
performance characteristics including the ability to run at considerably
higher clock speeds, and in addition have on-chip temperature sensing.

The Radeon 9700 used the R300 chip--the next chip released was the the R350,
there was no process upgrade version of the 9700, so no "XT".

> On Fri, 21 May 2004 05:24:15 +1200, "cowboyz" <me@here.now> wrote:
>
>>Augustus wrote:
>>> "cowboyz" <me@here.now> wrote in message
>>> news:c8haur$rlq$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>> For those who remember my mate who borrowed my 9800pro and then blah
>>>> blah blah.. well he told me this morning that someone wants to sell
>>>> hom a 9700XT for NZ$150 (US$80). I had a look on toms hardware and
>>>> ati.com and no mention of a 9700XT. Did one exist? It could be a
>>>> 9800XT or a 9600XT and he just got the name wrong. If one did
>>>> exist, I assume it is realitive to the 9700 as the 9800XT is to the
>>>> 9800?
>>>
>>> No such thing as a 9700XT. Just straight 9700, 9700Pro, 9700 Pro AIW
>>> cards. All are excellent cards. And seeing how a used 9700 Pro
>>> typically goes for $300 to $325NZ on Ebay it's doubtful it's that.
>>
>>Yeah. I been looking around at what they are going for. I am going to
>>check the card out for myself before my mate buys it tonight to find out
>>exactly what this guy is selling. My mate is sure he was told it was a
>>9700XT.
>>
>>

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We Live for the One we Die for the One wrote:
> Of course their were 9700XT cards they just were not called XT, cards
> with faster ram, that could get you maybe 15% mor overclock, thats all
> the XT stands for anyway.
>
>


If there was no card *released* with the codename 9700XT then it didn't
exist. And apparently it didn't. Do you think that we (as a consumer)
should rename certain XP2500+ because some of them can overclock to 3200+.
What name do you surpose we give this chip? the XP2500+XT?
 
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Augustus wrote:
> I bet it's a 9200SE or 9600SE....if you're lucky it's a 9600XT. If
> you're really lucky it's a 9700. That would be a great deal.

I hope it is at least a 9600XT. Not that it matters to me much. I don't
play on his machine. But if it doesn't play Splinter Cell 2 and Beyond good
and evil well then I will be hearing about it. Nothing worse than listening
to someone moan who hasn't done their homework. I am now thinking that it
may even be a FX*5*700XT which will be disappointing.
 
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ability to run at considerably
higher clock speeds ???


Can overclock them more and a FEW tiny other changes, i stand by my
Statement becuase it's right :)


On Fri, 21 May 2004 07:08:12 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<jclarke@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>ability to run at considerably
>higher clock speeds