Was this worth $1743 from CyberPower?

[StraikoID]

I feel like it is although I've never spent this much on anything. Its pretty much 1/4 of my annual part-time salary. Oiii..


BLKFRISALE1: CYBERPOWERPC Skorpion K2 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard [+5]
BLKFRISALE2: CyberpowerPC 7.1 Virtual Surround Gaming Headset [+5]
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CABLE: None
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[volkgren]

Yeah I mean you paid a little extra for being already prebuilt. You could build one just like it for a couple hundred less.

The power supply is on the crappy side of all aftermarket power supplies. If you already bought it I'd invest in a Tier 1/Tier 2 power supply asap. Corsair, EVGA, & SeaSonic are my top three choices for power supplies.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/

Seems like it should have a 2TB or bigger HDD also.

 

[StraikoID]

Yeah I mean you paid a little extra for being already prebuilt. You could build one just like it for a couple hundred less.

The power supply is on the crappy side of all aftermarket power supplies. If you already bought it I'd invest in a Tier 1/Tier 2 power supply asap. Corsair, EVGA, & SeaSonic are my top three choices for power supplies.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/

Seems like it should have a 2TB or bigger HDD also.

I intend to move my old 500gb ssd into the new PC + I noticed that this PSU had good reviews so I went for it. Although I think it'll be fine until I decide to OC

 

[volkgren]

If you add the keyboard, headset, RGB lighting, etc. to a custom build it would probably come out to about the same.

Maybe when the system is about to go out of warranty you could upgrade the power supply to something of better quality.

 

[bignastyid]

Imho, no, it's overpriced for what it is. The PSU is low end and does not belong paired with a 2700x and a GTX 1080. Stock cpu cooling and a relatively small ssd. Also most users have no need for the extra features of Win 10 pro over home. CyberPowers build quality is rather poor.

 

[StraikoID]

Imho, no, it's overpriced for what it is. The PSU is low end and does not belong paired with a 2700x and a GTX 1080. Stock cpu cooling and a relatively small ssd. Also most users have no need for the extra features of Win 10 pro over home. CyberPowers build quality is rather poor.

What seperates a high end psu from a low end? And I did multiple pcpartpickers and it seems that prebuilts are the cheaper way to go

 

[USAFRet]

Was this worth $1743 from CyberPower?

No.

Poor options:

Win 10 Pro
WD Green SSD (only the single 240GB drive?)
PSU
"Professional Wiring"
"thermal compound"
"Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution"


But, you've already bought it, so...

 

[USAFRet]

Imho, no, it's overpriced for what it is. The PSU is low end and does not belong paired with a 2700x and a GTX 1080. Stock cpu cooling and a relatively small ssd. Also most users have no need for the extra features of Win 10 pro over home. CyberPowers build quality is rather poor.

What seperates a high end psu from a low end? And I did multiple pcpartpickers and it seems that prebuilts are the cheaper way to go

Cheaper, because they use crap parts in places where the average buyer does not look.

 

[bignastyid]

Imho, no, it's overpriced for what it is. The PSU is low end and does not belong paired with a 2700x and a GTX 1080. Stock cpu cooling and a relatively small ssd. Also most users have no need for the extra features of Win 10 pro over home. CyberPowers build quality is rather poor.

What seperates a high end psu from a low end? And I did multiple pcpartpickers and it seems that prebuilts are the cheaper way to go

Component and Build quality. The Thermaltake Smart series uses low quality capacitors which have a low temp rating and reduce the units lifespan and can even effect system stability when they start to fail or overheat.

 

[StraikoID]

Imho, no, it's overpriced for what it is. The PSU is low end and does not belong paired with a 2700x and a GTX 1080. Stock cpu cooling and a relatively small ssd. Also most users have no need for the extra features of Win 10 pro over home. CyberPowers build quality is rather poor.

What seperates a high end psu from a low end? And I did multiple pcpartpickers and it seems that prebuilts are the cheaper way to go

Component and Build quality. The Thermaltake Smart series uses low quality capacitors which have a low temp rating and reduce the units lifespan and can even effect system stability when they start to fail or overheat.

I might call them tmrw and replace it with an EVGA psu then

+ I got Pro to be able to disable auto updates

And I was thinking of canceling the professional cable management as there have been bad reviews about it.

 

[USAFRet]

I might call them tmrw and replace it with an EVGA psu then

+ I got Pro to be able to disable auto updates

And I was thinking of canceling the professional cable management as there have been bad reviews about it.

"I got Pro to be able to disable auto updates"
Sorry, but that is a supremely bad idea.

But hey..it's your virus magnet, not mine.

 

[StraikoID]

I might call them tmrw and replace it with an EVGA psu then

+ I got Pro to be able to disable auto updates

And I was thinking of canceling the professional cable management as there have been bad reviews about it.

"I got Pro to be able to disable auto updates"
Sorry, but that is a supremely bad idea.

But hey..it's your virus magnet, not mine.

Not really although I appreciate your input

 

[USAFRet]

Re: CyberPower

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3698899/cyberpowerpc-experience.html

 

[DSzymborski]

I might call them tmrw and replace it with an EVGA psu then

+ I got Pro to be able to disable auto updates

And I was thinking of canceling the professional cable management as there have been bad reviews about it.

"I got Pro to be able to disable auto updates"
Sorry, but that is a supremely bad idea.

But hey..it's your virus magnet, not mine.

Not really although I appreciate your input

It's your decision, of course, but he's absolutely right.

 

[StraikoID]

Re: CyberPower

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3698899/cyberpowerpc-experience.html

I understand the risks with both Ibuypower and cyberpower but I don't know any other prebuilt sites nor do I wish purchase separate parts as it would total to be more than the prebuilt from what I calculated. Im debating whether or not I should be crossing my fingers or just cancel the order..

 

[USAFRet]

Re: CyberPower

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3698899/cyberpowerpc-experience.html

I understand the risks with both Ibuypower and cyberpower but I don't know any other prebuilt sites nor do I wish purchase separate parts as it would total to be more than the prebuilt from what I calculated. Im debating whether or not I should be crossing my fingers or just cancel the order..

You should look to a parts list within a certain budget and desired performance. Rather than if CyberPower is cheaper or not.

Building it yourself might be within $100 plus or minus.
But you'll have a known good parts selection, and known good assembly.

Can you build, from parts, to that performance within $1800? Almost certainly.

You want me to list a few other CyberPower screwups we've seen in here?

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

Do you have Microcenter near you? I think you can purchase parts and that they will assemble for like an extra 125. Maybe that would be a better way to go. At the one I go to anyway, most of the guys seem to have an idea what they are talking about.

 

[StraikoID]

Re: CyberPower

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3698899/cyberpowerpc-experience.html

I understand the risks with both Ibuypower and cyberpower but I don't know any other prebuilt sites nor do I wish purchase separate parts as it would total to be more than the prebuilt from what I calculated. Im debating whether or not I should be crossing my fingers or just cancel the order..

You should look to a parts list within a certain budget and desired performance. Rather than if CyberPower is cheaper or not.

Building it yourself might be within $100 plus or minus.
But you'll have a known good parts selection, and known good assembly.

Can you build, from parts, to that performance within $1800? Almost certainly.

You want me to list a few other CyberPower screwups we've seen in here?

I might. But then again I don't know what % of PC's out of 100 built by CP are disfunctional. Ill give it anothers day worth of thought probably.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

Can tell you I personally worked on a system purchased from either ibuypower or cyberpower, and just a simple power supply change. Changed it out, he brings it back, the cheap cooler they had in it had started leaking, ended up having to change it pretty much everything as out. By the time it got the board, you had to replace that, might as well upgrade the processor to.

If you get the cyberpower build, make sure they use a quality power supply and air cooling. Less to go wrong.

 

[USAFRet]

I might. But then again I don't know what % of PC's out of 100 built by CP are disfunctional. Ill give it anothers day worth of thought probably.

By "dysfunctional", we're talking basic things.
DVD drive not connected.
Case filters glued on.
Not booting up right out of the box.

Stuff that wouldn't pass muster with a 12 year old doing the assembly.

 

[StraikoID]

Do you have Microcenter near you? I think you can purchase parts and that they will assemble for like an extra 125. Maybe that would be a better way to go. At the one I go to anyway, most of the guys seem to have an idea what they are talking about.

I might. But then again I don't know what % of PC's out of 100 built by CP are disfunctional. Ill give it anothers day worth of thought probably.

By "dysfunctional", we're talking basic things.
DVD drive not connected.
Case filters glued on.
Not booting up right out of the box.

Stuff that wouldn't pass muster with a 12 year old doing the assembly.

Allow me to ask you this then, what other prebuilt website should I turn my eye to if I were to cancel my order and not feel like building the PC. Because like I mentioned previously, building it would well go over 1700 if I were to mimic the PC.

 

[USAFRet]

Allow me to ask you this then, what other prebuilt website should I turn my eye to if I were to cancel my order and not feel like building the PC. Because like I mentioned previously, building it would well go over 1700 if I were to mimic the PC.

"well over" ?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($324.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS GAMING 5 WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($209.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card ($559.89 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($97.99 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $1694.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-12 15:39 EDT-0400

Add mouse and kbd as desired.
Change case as desired.

 

[StraikoID]

Allow me to ask you this then, what other prebuilt website should I turn my eye to if I were to cancel my order and not feel like building the PC. Because like I mentioned previously, building it would well go over 1700 if I were to mimic the PC.

"well over" ?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($324.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS GAMING 5 WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($209.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card ($559.89 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($97.99 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $1694.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-12 15:39 EDT-0400

Add mouse and kbd as desired.
Change case as desired.

Well.. damn

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I might. But then again I don't know what % of PC's out of 100 built by CP are disfunctional. Ill give it anothers day worth of thought probably.

By "dysfunctional", we're talking basic things.
DVD drive not connected.
Case filters glued on.
Not booting up right out of the box.

Stuff that wouldn't pass muster with a 12 year old doing the assembly.

As long as those problems aren't on his computer what happened in the past in a few cases is irrelevant. Of course, one may use some situations to perhaps speculate whether they will or will not see these apparent issues, but it's probably 99% chance he will receive his computer which will boot up perfectly fine and probably be fine. As long as the parts are connected properly it doesn't really matter who assembled it.

And any, and every, product can be found to have had issues by people posting on Internet forums. It is no way to garner actual data on potential failure or DOA rates, though. This can be seen by power supplies people think are more or less likely to fail, but when you see the RMA rates what they think is very often not true because they are speculating based on loose data.

If a real study, by a university, for instance, was to be done on the quality of some products and how likely they are to have potential problems or fail, they would not use online posts for their data, they would use real data.

Though I'm not making an argument here for his purchase. As you have shown it can be cheaper by buying parts yourself and getting better parts while at it.

 

[King Dranzer]

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($324.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS GAMING 5 WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($152.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Black PCIe 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($749.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($76.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Cooler Master - CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1769.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-12 15:49 EDT-0400

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