Water cooling loop recomendation

[CTOAGN]

I am working on a build and decided to do a custom loop cooler and I need to know if it would work for my needs. The loop will be cooling a 4960x Extreme and a Titan Black SLI (both CPU & GPU most likely OC'd). It will have a dual bay res double pump and 480 rad. Would this be enough for all three or would I need to run two separate loops

 

[i7Baby]

You can do that with a split loop - one through the cpu and the other through the gpus. I'd prefer 2 separate loops - one each for cpu and gpu's

 

[CTOAGN]

ok but would I need a second res as well and what size rads would be good

 

[i7Baby]

Partly depends how hard you want to overclock and the pump speed. If your case will take it, I'd go 240/280 on each loop.

 

[CTOAGN]

I want to OC as high as i can and the pumps push at 144.99 psi if that is what you are looking for.

EDIT: the pump also says TF 95, IP 32, and it is a class F pump if this helps

I can also do a 560 rad

 

[i7Baby]

It's more pump volume rate than pressure. I'm not sure about TF - total flow? IP - ? Pressure?

What case you got or got in mind?

 

[CTOAGN]

I am thinking of either the 800D, 900D, or HAF X. something to hold the radiator(s) and still have room for 4 HD and the GPU's

 

[i7Baby]

The 900D will shoe it in. I suppose err on the side of caution - fit at least 240's for each and see how big the case will let you go.

 

[CTOAGN]

since the res has 4 tube points can I just use the one res or go for a second one?

 

[i7Baby]

One is OK

 

[CTOAGN]

Thank you for helping so much

 

[i7Baby]

No worries. Also read up on it to get more ideas.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Personally, if only using 2 cards, I'd use Haswell + twin 780 Ti's on a Maximus VII Formula if this is a gaming box. But using your stuff

Overclocked wattages

CPU = 220 watts
GPUs = 2 x 300 watts
Pump = 40 watts
MoBo = 40 watts

900 watts ..... Figure 150 watts per 140mm

6 x 140mm would be the "ideal" rad loading for delta T of 10C sizing the system for stress testing.... but 5 x 140 will get ya 12C under stress testing but 10C on anything ya can throw at it.

Recommendation:

Case
-Enthoo Primo Case (2013 case of the Year) .... ideally suited for water cooling two 300 watt cards, CPU and MoBo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854001

Radiators
Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper Double 140mm Radiator
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16825/ex-rad-426/Alphacool_NexXxoS_UT60_Full_Copper_Dual_140mm_Radiator.html

Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 Full Copper Triple 140mm Radiator
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16830/ex-rad-431/Alphacool_NexXxoS_XT45_Full_Copper_Triple_140mm_Radiator.html


Reservoir - Don't recommend Bay Res....noisy and leak issues with seams.
EK-MultiOption RES X3 250 - Liquid Cooling Reservoir - White Acetal
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21672/ex-res-677/EK-MultiOption_RES_X3_250_-_Liquid_Cooling_Reservoir_-_White_Acetal_6_Total_Ports.html?tl=g57c615s1940#blank

EK X3 Reservoir Multiport Replacement Top - White (EK-RES X3 - Multiport TOP WHITE)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18485/ex-res-481/EK_X3_Reservoir_Multiport_Replacement_Top_-_White_EK-RES_X3_-_Multiport_TOP_WHITE.html?id=4NiLmkLB&mv_pc=1254

Internal Tube 12/16 - 140mm (EK-RES-X3-TUBE-140)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_1165_1162&products_id=36312

EK G1/4 Thread Fitting Extender - Nickel - 8mm (Fitting Extender G1/4 (Ni)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18760/scr-701/EK_G14_Thread_Fitting_Extender_-_Nickel_-_8mm_Fitting_Extender_G14_Ni.html?id=4NiLmkLB&mv_pc=1256


Pump - I went with two pumps on common base for extra oomph, silence (2 pumps @ 50% speed much quieter than 1 @ 100%) and like having preinstalled backup.

Swiftech Dual Extreme Duty Small Form Factor 12 VDC Industrial PWM Pump - Black (MCP35X2-BK)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14961/ex-pmp-173/Swiftech_Dual_Extreme_Duty_Small_Form_Factor_12_VDC_Industrial_PWM_Pump_-_Black_MCP35X2-BK.html

Swiftech MCP35x2 Dual Pump Heatsink (MCP35X2-HS)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16233/ex-pmp-195/Swiftech_MCP35x2_Dual_Pump_Heatsink_MCP35X2-HS.html

Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPro PC-P 80mm x 15mm Ultra Silent PWM Fan - 2500 RPM
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/image/16392/fan-1017_4.jpg/fan-1017/Noiseblocker_NB-BlackSilentPro_PC-P_80mm_x_15mm_Ultra_Silent_PWM_Fan_-_2500_RPM.html


Blocks

Koolance 380i is best for LGA 2011

Unless ya using the RIVEB and in that case I'd get the EK MonoBlock
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=40852

Ek Water Blocks rule - Don't have lowest GPU temp but VRM is the big issue here. EVGA is worst by far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDyYliSo-Hw

Two separate loops doesn't do anything for you w/ just 2 GFX cards. But you will wanna run the GFX cards in parallel.

if ya wanna get into the science of sizing rads, can download all the manufacturers capabilities in spreadsheets here as well as formulae and other data

http://www.overclock.net/t/1457426/radiator-size-estimator

What it might look like ..... As long as ya don;t pick a card longer than 10.5:, I can guarantee everything will fit .... only tool you will need is a screwdriver. The case has a mounting bracket for the res that also hides the cables. There's also a built in fan controller for up to 11 fans

Oh yea,..... clean the rads with this

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/24694/ex-liq-415/Mayhems_Blitz_Pro_Cleaning_System.html

The pic is a similar build with E22 10/12 rigid acrylic tubing and Bitspower matte black fittings, 6 thermal sensors and a Reeven Six Eyes to display the temps.



And I suggest decoupling the pump from the res as the vibration of the pump can otherwise be transferred to loop and case.

 

[CTOAGN]

@JackNaylorPE Thanks for all of this information. I will certainly look into all of it. I changed up my idea to a tube res with dual 240mm rads if that works out to my advantage, if not I will use yours

 

[JackNaylorPE]

That's going to run a bit warm

Look for the rads to handle about 60% of the max calculated load of 900 watts.... or 540 watts.

-240 Radiator provides about 122 watts of cooling @ 1250 rpm w/ 1 fan, 148 in push / pull. So with two of them in push / pull, you will take care of just short of 300 watts (56%) out of your 540 watt load

-240 Radiator provides about 136 watts of cooling @ 1800 rpm w/ 1 fan, 165 in push / pull. So with two of them in push / pull, you will take care of just short of 330 watts (61%) out of your 540 watt load.

If you were aiming for the standard 10C Delta T with 120mm Rads, I'd suggest a 480 + 360