water cooling or better components

[kidzcannon]

Hi, im helping my freind with a gaming pc build, so the gpu we are thinking of using are the gtx780ti and a i7 4770k 3,5 ghz. we were thinking about making a costum water loop, and overclock the cpu and gpu.
But i wondering if it's even worth it? i mean could a get better performance if skip the water cooling and go for better components?
any help is appreciated

- Jacob

 

[Au_equus]

go for the better components now and water cooling later

 

[Spectre694]

go for the better components now and water cooling later

+1 But with 4770K and 780Ti there isn't much up to go (or need).

 

[kidzcannon]

i wanted to install 7 120mm with radiators. so its kinda like:
(1x i7 4770k 3,5 ghz, 2x gtx780) vs (1x i7 4770k 3,5ghz, 1x gtx 780, cooled by 7 120mm fans on radiator)

btw what kind of overclock performance increase could i average expect with such a cooling setup?

 

[Spectre694]

i wanted to install 7 120mm with radiators. so its kinda like:
(1x i7 4770k 3,5 ghz, 2x gtx780) vs (1x i7 4770k 3,5ghz, 1x gtx 780, cooled by 7 120mm fans on radiator)

btw what kind of overclock performance increase could i average expect with such a cooling setup?

Disclaimer: Assuming quality parts from good brands.

Thats sounds a little excessive. rule of thumb is 120/140mm for each 200-250W of heat. so really you only need a 360 Radiator which should be good should give you as much OC room as your chips can handle. If you need to you can add another 120/140 but I doubt you will have to.

780: 250W
4770K: 95 OC: 150ish

Total 400 W
required min: 240(400-500W) Radiator
recommend: 360(600-750W of heat removal)

 

[kidzcannon]

i wanted to install 7 120mm with radiators. so its kinda like:
(1x i7 4770k 3,5 ghz, 2x gtx780) vs (1x i7 4770k 3,5ghz, 1x gtx 780, cooled by 7 120mm fans on radiator)

btw what kind of overclock performance increase could i average expect with such a cooling setup?

Disclaimer: Assuming quality parts from good brands.

Thats sounds a little excessive. rule of thumb is 120/140mm for each 200-250W of heat. so really you only need a 360 Radiator which should be good should give you as much OC room as your chips can handle. If you need to you can add another 120/140 but I doubt you will have to.

780: 250W
4770K: 95 OC: 150ish

Total 400 W
required min: 240(400-500W) Radiator
recommend: 360(600-750W of heat removal)

i've read that if you're doing a custom water cooling setup, then you should get as many radiators as you can fit inf and be willing to buy :0

 

[Spectre694]

i wanted to install 7 120mm with radiators. so its kinda like:
(1x i7 4770k 3,5 ghz, 2x gtx780) vs (1x i7 4770k 3,5ghz, 1x gtx 780, cooled by 7 120mm fans on radiator)

btw what kind of overclock performance increase could i average expect with such a cooling setup?

Disclaimer: Assuming quality parts from good brands.

Thats sounds a little excessive. rule of thumb is 120/140mm for each 200-250W of heat. so really you only need a 360 Radiator which should be good should give you as much OC room as your chips can handle. If you need to you can add another 120/140 but I doubt you will have to.

780: 250W
4770K: 95 OC: 150ish

Total 400 W
required min: 240(400-500W) Radiator
recommend: 360(600-750W of heat removal)

i've read that if you're doing a custom water cooling setup, then you should get as many radiators as you can fit inf and be willing to buy :0

Well if you want too. but after a certain point your spending money on stuff you don't need and doesn't help you. Added to that is if you have two many radiators and blocks you run the risk of losing flow and having to by another pump in order to maintain water flow wasting even more money.

 

[kidzcannon]

i wanted to install 7 120mm with radiators. so its kinda like:
(1x i7 4770k 3,5 ghz, 2x gtx780) vs (1x i7 4770k 3,5ghz, 1x gtx 780, cooled by 7 120mm fans on radiator)

btw what kind of overclock performance increase could i average expect with such a cooling setup?

Disclaimer: Assuming quality parts from good brands.

Thats sounds a little excessive. rule of thumb is 120/140mm for each 200-250W of heat. so really you only need a 360 Radiator which should be good should give you as much OC room as your chips can handle. If you need to you can add another 120/140 but I doubt you will have to.

780: 250W
4770K: 95 OC: 150ish

Total 400 W
required min: 240(400-500W) Radiator
recommend: 360(600-750W of heat removal)

i've read that if you're doing a custom water cooling setup, then you should get as many radiators as you can fit inf and be willing to buy :0

Well if you want too. but after a certain point your spending money on stuff you don't need and doesn't help you. Added to that is if you have two many radiators and blocks you run the risk of losing flow and having to by another pump in order to maintain water flow wasting even more money.

i was thinking of getting like 360 top and 240 at the front. i dont want to spend unnecessary money, but i im kinda want to seperate radiators, so it doesnt end up looking like some predone water cooling solutions. bear in mind that we might add an extra gpu in the future, when i becomes outdated.
do you still think it's to much ?

 

[Spectre694]

i wanted to install 7 120mm with radiators. so its kinda like:
(1x i7 4770k 3,5 ghz, 2x gtx780) vs (1x i7 4770k 3,5ghz, 1x gtx 780, cooled by 7 120mm fans on radiator)

btw what kind of overclock performance increase could i average expect with such a cooling setup?

Disclaimer: Assuming quality parts from good brands.

Thats sounds a little excessive. rule of thumb is 120/140mm for each 200-250W of heat. so really you only need a 360 Radiator which should be good should give you as much OC room as your chips can handle. If you need to you can add another 120/140 but I doubt you will have to.

780: 250W
4770K: 95 OC: 150ish

Total 400 W
required min: 240(400-500W) Radiator
recommend: 360(600-750W of heat removal)

i've read that if you're doing a custom water cooling setup, then you should get as many radiators as you can fit inf and be willing to buy :0

Well if you want too. but after a certain point your spending money on stuff you don't need and doesn't help you. Added to that is if you have two many radiators and blocks you run the risk of losing flow and having to by another pump in order to maintain water flow wasting even more money.

i was thinking of getting like 360 top and 240 at the front. i dont want to spend unnecessary money, but i im kinda want to seperate radiators, so it doesnt end up looking like some predone water cooling solutions. bear in mind that we might add an extra gpu in the future, when i becomes outdated.
do you still think it's to much ?

That sounds more reasonable than a 360 and 2X 240 (1400-1750W) ( the original 7 radiators you stated earlier.)

A 360 (600-750W) Should let your CPU and 2X 780 stay on the same loop (650W)

3-Way 780's would require 900W or a 360 and 240 which will dissipate (1000-1250W)

4-way 780's will require 1150W or a 360 and 240 (1000-1250W)

But if you really like the look of a 360 and 240 there is no reason not to get it especially if SLI and 2011 CPU's are in your future. In any case make sure to pair with a good pump or two.

 

[Au_equus]

I have a i7-3770k at stock and two gtx 780 ti (EVGA SC base/boost 1006/1072 MHz) in SLI all in a water cooling loop using dual swiftech mcp65x (laing d5) pumps on a maelstrom dual bay res connected to a 240 and a 360 rad. OC'd to 4.2 GHz, my CPU reaches 70-72C under load (prime95) (used to reach mid 80's with the H100i and low 90's with air) and my GPU's top out at 48C. All in a FD Arc XL case

 

[kidzcannon]

ok my freind said that he would wait with the custom watercooling, but thanks for your advices, it's sure going to help later

 

[Spectre694]

ok my freind said that he would wait with the custom watercooling, but thanks for your advices, it's sure going to help later

Glad to help. good luck on your builds!