Nov 20, 2007
No good ones. One thats able to cool a q6600 overclocked better than the best air HS? Yes. But can't do more than that.

A good WC loop with Top parts for a CPU only is about $250-$300. Add about another $100+ to add the GPU too.

Type this in google.

swiftech 220 compact kit.

Quality parts, reputable company, very basic, great starter loop.

Do not buy thermaltake, koolance, etc etc etc.

And my stadard cut n paste for WC noobs.

I'll steer you to some more technical links, please spend a few days (DAYS) reading posts, searching, learning. Don't forget to look for your case with WC. Google your case and the word watercool or some combination of that. WC stuff is larger than you think, I know from experience. WC setups done right are awesome and almost silent.

Great place, not wayyy over the top with uber WC guys.
Uber place, owned by one of the worlds winning OC guys in the world. Not a place to post or ask questions by noobs, but an awesome place to learn.
Another good place to learn
The best link to explain what parts you’ll need

Great places to buy WC stuff [...] e&Itemid=1

Hope it helps, see ya in a few days, get edumacated!



Aug 17, 2006
I use the koolance full body blocks on my 260's and they do fine, same as on my 8800 GTX's.

BUT, my cpu block and pump are Swiftech, along with the 3 120 rads.

350 pump- $65
Apogee GT cpu block- $65
120 rads- $30 each
GPU full body blocks from koolance- $105 each
Home Depot tubing- 12'- $5
s/s Worm clamps- 16- $12
s/s Barbs- 12 - $35
Petras G11 antifreeze/antibacteria- $8

Dremel, cut wheels, bandaids and neosporin not included in above price.

Q9450 @ 3.4 @ 44c load, 2x260 GTX@ 52c load, and quiet, priceless!


Jun 18, 2008
omg thg just wiped my post before i could submit it...

imo, if you're going to cash out on the watercooling, you may as well get a loop that looks good... the majority of watercoolers do it for the looks as much as the performance. seriously, spend a quarter of that money and get like 5 C worse? price/performance, watercooling is just not worth it. so if it looks ugly then...

same goes for gpu waterblocks. for the price of a piece of metal that replaces a bigger piece of metal and a fan, you could get a card which at STOCK beats the overclocked watercooled cheaper one. and thats not including the overclocked more expensive air cooled one...

seriously. think of these things


Jun 18, 2008
no its not a fact, it depends on the circumstances and variables obviously... thats like saying every TRUE will get 25 C on a e8400. depends entirely on a ton of variables.


Contributing Writer
Ugly water cooling is usually a result of poor planning, bad case layout/size and laziness. If you know what the components are and how they perform, being 'pretty' shouldn't be a concern. Some of the best looking cases I have ever seen are watercooled and pretty much working works of art.

'Looking good' with a TT bigwater kit is neat-o due to its simplicity, but isn't worth the money when the pump fails or fails to meet your performance expectations. Most people that dog watercooling with 'mediocre' results typically see what results their buddy has with his TT or zalman reserator...