Question What a crock the launch of the RX 9070 XT has been today!

[dpeel]

I started trying to find an RX 9070 XT from Newegg and Amazon at 3:00AM Central time this morning. Amazon and Newegg didn't even have them listed until mid-morning, by which time they were already out of stock. Apparently the comments about their being a good stock and the availability was good was a joke. Obviously, the scalpers and their bots have sucked the available cards up to resell on Ebay. I'm very dissapointed and angry about this.

 

[USAFRet]

Given all the first day releases over the last several years...you were expecting something else?

 

[dpeel]

I had seen and read from a number of places that this launch would be different...that there was plenty of stock. I even started looking for one at 3AM Central time this morning to try and improve my chances of getting one at the MSRP or very close to it.

 

[USAFRet]

I had seen and read from a number of places that this launch would be different...that there was plenty of stock. I even started looking for one at 3AM Central time this morning to try and improve my chances of getting one at the MSRP or very close to it.

You just needed to be faster than the scalper bots.

 

[beyondlogic]

I had seen and read from a number of places that this launch would be different...that there was plenty of stock. I even started looking for one at 3AM Central time this morning to try and improve my chances of getting one at the MSRP or very close to it.

we had plenty in uk for ages. by 5-8pm we had stock

 

[LordVile]

I started trying to find a RX 9070XT from Newegg and Amazon at 3:00AM Central time this morning. Amazon and Newegg didn't even have them listed until mid morning and then they were already out of stock. Apparently the comments about their being a good stock and the availability was good was a joke. Obviously, the scalpers and their bots have sucked the available cards up to resell on Ebay. I'm very dissapointed and angry about this.

Why are you mad that you can’t buy an underperforming card which will just get exponentially worse with new games due to it being bad at RT?

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I know the local Microcenter had stock the first few hours. I think they still had some expensive aib options and some non xt cards but by this evening they were picked over.

 

[RTX 2080]

Why are you mad that you can’t buy an underperforming card which will just get exponentially worse with new games due to it being bad at RT?

Wow, not even a pretense of objectivity …

 

[QyInvoLing]

In China,there's no MSRP cards.
Currently I can buy a $749 XFX flagship, and I'm considering whether to buy it or not.

 

[LordVile]

Wow, not even a pretense of objectivity …

I mean benchmarks are kind of objective? As soon as you turn on RT, DLSS/FSR, frame gen etc the XT falls behind the base 5070 and as games get more demanding and require ray tracing that gap only widens. If you only want to run older and less demanding games why would you be buying a GPU in this price bracket?

 

[TerryLaze]

I mean benchmarks are kind of objective? As soon as you turn on RT, DLSS/FSR, frame gen etc the XT falls behind the base 5070 and as games get more demanding and require ray tracing that gap only widens. If you only want to run older and less demanding games why would you be buying a GPU in this price bracket?

It's not like this is going to happen tomorrow, the occasional indy (jones) game that requires RT will be the exception for quite a while.
Never forget that almost all games are being made for the consoles and have to run well there.
Even a card with bad RT will be fine for its normal life span.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

What numbers are you looking at? According to the review from Tom’s, on average the xt is beating the 5070. Now granted from what I’ve read the xt is about 2 % behind the 5070ti, but then again there’s a $150 gap between the msrp of those cards.

 

[LordVile]

Wow, not even a pretense of objectivity …

I mean benchmarks are kind of objective? As soon as you turn on RT, DLSS/FSR, frame gen etc the XT falls behind the base 5070 and as games get more demanding and require ray tracing that gap only widens. If you only want to run older and less demanding games why would you be buying a GPU in this job

It's not like this is going to happen tomorrow, the occasional indy (jones) game that requires RT will be the exception for quite a while.
Never forget that almost all games are being made for the consoles and have to run well there.
Even a card with bad RT will be fine for its normal life span.

But if you want that again why are you buying a card for this price when it’s just a 7900XT (which is cheaper) with less VRAM? Just buy a 7900 XT at that point.

 

[LordVile]

What numbers are you looking at? According to the review from Tom’s, on average the xt is beating the 5070. Now granted from what I’ve read the xt is about 2 % behind the 5070ti, but then again there’s a $150 gap between the msrp of those cards.

Check out the RT numbers then remember they didn’t turn on DLSS or frame gen.


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[Heat_Fan89]

I started trying to find a RX 9070XT from Newegg and Amazon at 3:00AM Central time this morning. Amazon and Newegg didn't even have them listed until mid morning and then they were already out of stock. Apparently the comments about their being a good stock and the availability was good was a joke. Obviously, the scalpers and their bots have sucked the available cards up to resell on Ebay. I'm very dissapointed and angry about this.

Hmm, I had NO issues with Amazon. I purchased then cancelled my orders for the 9070 XT a couple of times. I logged in and they were available for me. I do have a business account with them, if that makes any difference but I don't know.

I'm still undecided as to which card to get. As much as I dislike (don't hate Nvidia), I would much prefer an RTX 5080.

 

[Heat_Fan89]

Currently they have the XFX 9070 listed for $669.

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Quicksilver-Radeon-Gaming-RX-97QICKBBA/dp/B0DW4H2R4D?crid=1N9MMK9IRE551&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.0QWU5j_98p2kv1wfaUvnWKS4YN5SCvbx7euydQCtjaJ4zY06dZSK6b0mrvOVZ-R0KmCLnZJZbD9PoyNBSfb6uiFm83ka1JtJv_WIOdXRiRvBkBimWp9oce-JwsR2u4ki3l2rZkYpFzCKkSAt911qOQmB9Ba3CVTm2YY-1OqST-YnOFoA-kf6rgiw9rbf3FkouOg6ZOoGQ5MsfhkG3ZMmcee6sC0ztS0irklcODU7Q5k.W102uPi39rOgqDbOVDUBduELZ_6E0nDqZigYV-yaAgc&dib_tag=se&keywords=9070&qid=1741366027&sprefix=9070,aps,463&sr=8-2

 

[beyondlogic]

Check out the RT numbers then remember they didn’t turn on DLSS or frame gen.


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Personally I find dlss and frame gen garbage if it needs these to beat out the competition then it's a pass only numbers people should concern themselves with my own opinion is native resolution if it has to downgrade a image then upscale it then rather play on a lower resolution at least it won't bug out with lighting which is a thing with frame gen and dlss.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

VS a 5080 totally up to you. I'm happy with my 7900 xtx for now. But no major issues with AMD's drivers. They are a little behind software wise fsr vs dlss but stuff I've seen pretty much says they made progress on this release and when you consider the price difference, totally your call. But the 9070xt isn't far behind the 7900xtx on raster, but is better on ray tracing.

 

[Heat_Fan89]

VS a 5080 totally up to you. I'm happy with my 7900 xtx for now. But no major issues with AMD's drivers. They are a little behind software wise fsr vs dlss but stuff I've seen pretty much says they made progress on this release and when you consider the price difference, totally your call. But the 9070xt isn't far behind the 7900xtx on raster, but is better on ray tracing.

I read and seen the same. The 9070 XT is by far a better deal and the 9070 in some cases/games bumps up against the 9070 XT. At MSRP the 9070/9070XT is a no brainer.

 

[beyondlogic]

I read and seen the same. The 9070 XT is by far a better deal and the 9070 in some cases/games bumps up against the 9070 XT. At MSRP the 9070/9070XT is a no brainer.

9070 has better power efficiency and as more driver focus on these 2 cards it should yield better results

 

[LordVile]

Personally I find dlss and frame gen garbage if it needs these to beat out the competition then it's a pass only numbers people should concern themselves with my own opinion is native resolution if it has to downgrade a image then upscale it then rather play on a lower resolution at least it won't bug out with lighting which is a thing with frame gen and dlss.

AMD performs worse without them also needs FSR and frame gen. The 9070XT is worse than the 5070 as soon as you turn on RT