Question What can we expect from the 7600 XT, what does it have to offer for 1080p/144hz (budget but still future proof) ?

[Phil_33]

The 7700xt is really great compared to the 6700xt. It's like 25-ish% faster then the 6700xt.
Power Color hellhound is really powerfull. It is still somewhat reaonsably priced for 469 dollars (490 euro's).
But the thing is, for 1080p144hz only, it might be too high in price for what it needs to be. It's actually more of a 1440p card then a 1080p card.

There are leaks that the 7600xt will come out with 10gb and 12gb of vram.
7600 is too low in vram and performance.
7600xt could be priced around 369 dollars (390 euro's) which would be awesome.
There are speculations going around that are saying that the 7600xt would be 15% faster then the 7600, but that was based on 6600 vs 6600xt.
Do you think the 7600 xt would be the most ideal card for 1080p144hz gaming with this price in mind? Would it be as future proof as a 7700xt?
Or do you still think the 7700xt is a better choice?
Ofcourse this is all speculations!

For myself then, my goal is to use the graphics card for as long as possible. Power Color Hellhound already teased with a great card since it's super power efficient as well as more silent and cooler then the rest. So I'm hoping they bring out the 7600xt as well.
The only game which wouldn't make it to 60fps is, as we all expect, starfield on ultra, but that doesn't matter as I can easaly work with high settings.
Why I did considered a 7700xt is because of the unreal engine 5 games. 6700xt could barely keep up. The 7700xt already is great in unreal engine 5 titles but it's still too high in price. How would you think the 7600xt would be in unreal engine 5 games?

 

[Colif]

looking at their EEC filing, Powercolor have 4 7600xt.
Two that have 12gb
Hellhound RX7600XT 12G-L/OC
Fighter RX7600XT 12G-F

Two that have 10gb
Hellhound RX7600XT 10G-L/OC
Fighter RX7600XT 10g-F

PowerColor Registers Radeon RX 7600 XT 10 GB & 12 GB Cards

PowerColor has registered a significant number of AMD Radeon RX 7000-series SKUs with the Eurasian Economic Commission (EEC)—these enrollments are seemingly always a good source of pre-launch information. Naturally, the ever reliable harukaze5719 has reported on this latest filing. The most...

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careful which one you get since there are 2 Hellhounds

what is this future proof thing you speak of... nothing is.

I don't like to speculate, its going to have performance at a lvl between the 7600 & 7700xt. I guess there is a fair amount of room there. Expect it be close to a 7700xt but not beat it, as they wouldn't do that to themselves.

Power Color Hellhound already teased with a great card since it's super power efficient as well as more silent and cooler then the rest.

being specific, I can imagine this has better cooling but no one got them for testing - https://www.powercolor.com/product?id=1689646991 - they sent out the cheaper cards.

 

[Avro Arrow]

I would honestly be very surprised if this card ever sees the light of day. If it does, I would bet on it having 10GB of VRAM.

 

[hotaru.hino]

If you want something to last as long as possible, you have to temper your expectations and requirements. Asking for 1080p 100+ FPS on maximum quality settings is going make any current midrange hardware "obsolete" within 2-3 years.

If you're fine with 1080p 60FPS with maybe some dips on medium quality settings, the hardware will last much longer. Heck, even "low quality" in some AAA titles are starting to look as good as launch PS4 titles.

 

[Phil_33]

If you want something to last as long as possible, you have to temper your expectations and requirements. Asking for 1080p 100+ FPS on maximum quality settings is going make any current midrange hardware "obsolete" within 2-3 years.

If you're fine with 1080p 60FPS with maybe some dips on medium quality settings, the hardware will last much longer. Heck, even "low quality" in some AAA titles are starting to look as good as launch PS4 titles.

1080p60fps is good for me for something like starfield or unreal engine 5 games.otherwise a shooter game I want it to be higher then 60fps ofcourse.

 

[hotaru.hino]

Assuming the typical performance trend of "last generation's SKU is this generation's SKU - 1", then if we have a look at the 6700XT in 1080p maximum settings:

If it can do at least 60 FPS in most games then, a 7600XT should be able to do the same, minus some outliers depending on VRAM pressure.

Regarding Starfield specifically, the 6700XT doesn't seem to breach 60 FPS average, but this is on max quality settings with FSR off:

So with some tweaking, you can definitely get above 60FPS on average. However, I'd consider Starfield an anomaly and shouldn't really be used to judge the entire landscape.

 

[Phil_33]

Assuming the typical performance trend of "last generation's SKU is this generation's SKU - 1", then if we have a look at the 6700XT in 1080p maximum settings:

If it can do at least 60 FPS in most games then, a 7600XT should be able to do the same, minus some outliers depending on VRAM pressure.

Regarding Starfield specifically, the 6700XT doesn't seem to breach 60 FPS average, but this is on max quality settings with FSR off:

So with some tweaking, you can definitely get above 60FPS on average. However, I'd consider Starfield an anomaly and shouldn't really be used to judge the entire landscape.

This lineup is actually really weird.
Amd said it themselves that the 7700xt and 7800xt will be the last ones. Doesn't make any sense compared to last gens. Their lineups were always the same. You had the 6600 (xt) 6700 (xt) 6800 (xt) and same for 5000 series. And now we only have 7600, 7700xt and 7800 xt...
The leaks would make sense but they're just rumours so I don't count on them yet.
If it is true however, I think the 7600xt could become a great competitor for 1080p.

 

[Colif]

While its true that some EEC filings might be for cards that don't exist, I wouldn't think the Powercolor one that mentions way more than just those 4 cards and which have been given model names... are also made up.

AMD said no more models but they might see the XT variant as part of a pre existing model... 7600 is only card that doesn't have an XT version... its also only card that is only a non XT card. So its unique in the family... it could stay that way or have an XT and non XT version. It being different is what makes it hard to guess.

Really, the cards at top and bottom are different...
7600 non xt is unique in naming
7900 XTX is as well.

 

[Phil_33]

While its true that some EEC filings might be for cards that don't exist, I wouldn't think the Powercolor one that mentions way more than just those 4 cards and which have been given model names... are also made up.

AMD said no more models but they might see the XT variant as part of a pre existing model... 7600 is only card that doesn't have an XT version... its also only card that is only a non XT card. So its unique in the family... it could stay that way or have an XT and non XT version. It being different is what makes it hard to guess.

Really, the cards at top and bottom are different...
7600 non xt is unique in naming
7900 XTX is as well.

Its too bad that they haven't brought it out yet. I did some research of my own. And the gap between the 6600 and the 6700xt is almost the same as the gap between 7600 and 7700xt.

Seeing how much the gap is between the 6600 and the the xt variant, we can then assume the 7600xt is somewhat 10-12 fps more then the 7600.
I'm telling you, only starfield I think will be below 60fps on ultra preset and 65 fps I think on high. This would be then at this very moment THE ultimate 1080p card!
(Maybe even THE 1080p144hz card...)
And if it would have 12gb of vram, it would be the ultimate 1080p card of all time for a long time.
The 7700xt is a bit too pricey and is too much for 1080p price to performance. Unless the 7700xt goes below 400 dollars ofcourse...

 

[Colif]

rumour it could be 16gb - https://wccftech.com/amd-might-launch-radeon-rx-7600-xt-graphics-card-with-massive-16-gb-memory/

 

[Phil_33]

rumour it could be 16gb - https://wccftech.com/amd-might-launch-radeon-rx-7600-xt-graphics-card-with-massive-16-gb-memory/

Ugh yuck I'm pinned. Don't know how long my rx590 is gonna survive... I really need to upgrade the rest at the end of this year.
What if it was 16gb? Would a 7700xt still be better for 1080p you think? Or would 7600xt win in this case because it would cost way less?
It will go from navi 33 to navi 32 but what does that mean exacly in terms of performance?
The 7700xt is gonna be faster but the 7600xt might have more vram...

 

[Colif]

I don't have an answer for you, as we don't have any details on the cards apart from names. It would likely depend on how wide the memory bus is.

the 7600M XT has same memory specs as the 7600 so its no help. its also slower.

A 7700xt should be better just by definition.

It depends on what you value more... money or performance. Its really rare something wins on both, so you need to pick. I chose performance when I got my 7900 XT as its value is only just starting to make sense now. I didn't care about value.

 

[Phil_33]

I don't have an answer for you, as we don't have any details on the cards apart from names. It would likely depend on how wide the memory bus is.

the 7600M XT has same memory specs as the 7600 so its no help. its also slower.

A 7700xt should be better just by definition.

It depends on what you value more... money or performance. Its really rare something wins on both, so you need to pick. I chose performance when I got my 7900 XT as its value is only just starting to make sense now. I didn't care about value.

I see ok thanks anyway.
Anyway while the 7700xt might be available now, I expect the 7600xt could have more potential. We shall see but the price is gonna be lower and with speculations that it light have 16gb of vram, it would be the ultimate 1080p card'...

 

[Colif]

ultimate... sort of depends on what monitor you have. I don't know if it could run a 500hz 1080p monitor - https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/ali...24h/apd/210-bglm/monitors-monitor-accessories

not sure what card would run that really. Looks like that monitor favours Nvidia.

 

[Phil_33]

ultimate... sort of depends on what monitor you have. I don't know if it could run a 500hz 1080p monitor - https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/ali...24h/apd/210-bglm/monitors-monitor-accessories

not sure what card would run that really. Looks like that monitor favours Nvidia.

I wasn't talking about myself. The majority uses 1080p60-175h. I'm not a competitive gamer either.

 

[Colif]

I really need to upgrade the rest at the end of this year.

I wasn't talking about myself.

oh, okay. it might be able to do 175, I haven't really kept track of what cards can do what, outside of the one I own.

 

[Phil_33]

oh, okay. it might be able to do 175, I haven't really kept track of what cards can do what, outside of the one I own.

Sorry for the missunderstanding though .
Myself: I don't think I can wait till 7600xt comes out since I would still be pinned with my old noisy rx590 graphicscard then in my new system and I would hate that. I cannot wait till I get my hands on the overhaul upgrade either...

As for the rest: well 7600xt is gonna be better since it will be cheaper so if it comes out, it will be an ultimate card for those who want to spare some money, get the new gen technology and have a great 1080p experience (even with extra vram if it is true). Unless ofcourse the 7700xt is cut down in money massively.