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Hi guys, in my last post I asked u about some parts of my pc but that doesn't work for me instead I got confused.So today I wanna ask u about the whole system that what

should I bought for Indian money Rs. 75000.It is not fixed it can b 2-3k more. My priority is latest motherboard which support both sli and crossfire

technology(GIGABYTE is Preferred),u.s.b 3 will have priority over u.s.b 2 ,1TB or 1/2TB HDD,RAM Upto 3-4 gb DDR3,i7 has prefrence over i5 and i3 but if i3 and i5 perform

better than i7 anywhere than go for them also.I want a good cooling system that mange bothGPU and processor,a good GPU that can play games of both todays and tomorrow (HDMI supported ), ATI is preferred

over Nvidia,a read/write dvd writer as blue ray will add more cost which is not necessary. A good power supply that can hold the rig properly. A FULL HD 23''-25''

LCD monitor(HDMI supported).A 5.1 speaker system may be CREATIVE or BOSS.

If I'm missing something then add ...........

I'm waiting for your responses............
 
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Well, you really should post this in the 'Homebuilt Section' - more people would be able to help you configuring a full setup. Anyways, I'll try and help.

Can you give me any good Indian hardware sites?

Otherwise, this is what I'm thinking:

If I got the conversion right, 75,000 Rupees = ~ $1650 USD.

So, these are all approximate US prices, it'll be a bit more expensive in India, and I've taken that into account:

Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHz - $300
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro - $190
Corsair Dominator 2x2GB DDR3 1600MHz - $150
Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 - $320
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM - $100
Corsair HX650W - $120
Cooler Master HAF 922 - $100
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus - $50

Total = $1330

This is without the LCD, DVD drive or 5.1 speaker system - I have no idea what would be available in India, and those parts are quite specific to each country.


 
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I think this will serve you well ...

Processor - Intel i7 920 ; Rs 14,300 /-
http://www.theitwares.com/intel-core-nehalem-266ghz-256kb-cache-cache-1366-130w-quadcore-processor-p-171.html

Motherboard - Gigabyte GA X58A UD7 ; Rs 23,750/-
http://www.theitwares.com/gigabyte-gax58aud7-1366-intel-sata-6gbs-intel-motherboard-p-467.html

RAM - GSkill 6GB ; Rs 9700/-
http://www.theitwares.com/gskill-240pin-ddr3-sdram-ddr3-1600-12800-triple-channel-desktop-memory-model-f312800cl9t6gbnq-p-608.html

Graphics - ATI Radeon HD5850 ; Rs 15,500
http://www.theitwares.com/powercolor-ax5850-1gbd5mdh-hd5850-gddd5-express-graphic-card-p-320.html

Storage - Seaget Barracuda 1TB 7200 rpm ; Rs 4,150
http://www.theitwares.com/seagate-barracuda-720012-st31000528as-7200-32mb-cache-sata-30gbs-internal-hard-drive-p-355.html

Case + PSU - Coolermaster ; Rs 4,625
http://www.theitwares.com/cooler-master-elite-with-500w-extreme-tower-cabinet-p-399.html

Display - Samsung Syncmaster P2250
21.5" Full HD, 50000:1 contrast ratio, 2ms response time
Rs 11,000/-

Audio - You'l get a good quality 5.1 in any electronics store. Artis, Creative, Logitech, Altec Lansing are some well known brands. There's no way you'l
get a Bose 5.1 within your budget, though.

the case + psu combo is not the best, but availability of some better ones is scarce in India.

actually, unless you buy online or reside in a major city (Mumbai, Delhi, Banglore, etc) you'l have a hard time finding the above config


I assume you'l be using this rig mainly for gaming. In that case, an i5-750 with 4 gigs of ram will do just as well. In fact, u can use the money saved to buy a Radeon HD5870
 
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Gigabyte boards based upon the 1156 chipset can either do Xfire / SLI or USB 3 / SATA III ..... once you plug in a 2nd GFX card, your USB 3 and SATA III lanes are crippled to half speed. AT $1650 US for a system that excels in both gaming and desktop apps....and overclockable to 4.2 - 4.4 Ghz on air though, no reason not to go with an i7 9xx based system.

$230 Antec 1200 w/ CP-850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.359977
$515 ASUS P6X58D-E w/ Intel i7-930 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.378938
$200 3 x 2GB Corsair DDR3-1600 CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145286
$90 Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433
$50 CPU Cooler, fans, and doodads. See below
$0.00 MoBo has excellent on board sound.
$25 Any DVD writer

$350 Asus ENGTX470/2DI/1280MD5 GTX 470 (Fermi) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121372
.....or
$320 ASUS EAH5850 DIRECTCU/2DIS/1GD5 HD 5850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121375

$1430-$1460

With the extra expense of an excellent 1920 x 1200 monitor .... looks like we go little over budget.

$280 ASUS VW266H Black 25.5" 2ms 1920x1200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236047

$1710-$1740

Alternate 1156 system (saves $265 ..... $1445 - $1475 system cost)

$145 ASUS P7P55D-E LGA 1156 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131620
$200 Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215
$105 OCZ 2 x 2GB DDR3-1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227297

$90 Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speakers http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121006

1156 system ($1535 - $1565 system cost) w/ monitor and speakers depending on GFX card chosen
1366 system ($1800 - $1830 system cost) w/ monitor and speakers depending on GFX card chosen

This system gives you:

-Plenty of expansion capability in one of the best full tower cases (HAF 932 is an alternate)
-PSU w/ 10.0 electrical Performance rating and the quietest hi wattage PSU tested at silentpcreview.com w/ capability for SLI or XFire and hi OC'ing
-HD which performs better than Samsung F3 in gaming and photo work, (F3 does better on movies and music)
-Low profile memory that doesn't interfere w/ aftermarket heat sink as often happens with the high profile heat spreaders on for example the Dominators and Ripjaws.
-Adequate GFX capability for DX11 gaming at 1920 x 1200 and high settings at least thru XMas 2011....add a 2nd card iN SLI / Xfire when needed; case and PSU has plenty of cooling and power.
-Ability for 200 BCLK and 4.2 GHz OC's.
-For just gaming, I'd go 1156....if you use demanding or a significant amount of multithreaded apps, I'd go 1366

Heat sinks:

Pick one of the top 5 on one of these lists:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/Recommended_Heatsinks
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm#INTELHEATSINK
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=432&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=23
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=492&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=4

pick a TIM from the top few here:
http://www.hwreviewlabs.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=64%3Amega-44-thermal-paste-round-up&catid=32%3Around-ups&Itemid=47&limitstart=3
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/thermal-interface-roundup_10.html#sect1
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=138&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=3
 
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:D dude...not all of this is available in India.
also the cost escalates for any given part. fo eg: a rig costing $1500 in the US, will cost the equivalent of min $2000 in India.
also many of the brands like antec, don't exist here.
Believe it or not, even the i7-930 is not yet available :sol:
Oh, n by the way, newegg doesn't ship 2 india ... ;)
 
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Hi guys, thanks for your help.With the help of your suggested hardware I just made some specs which I think work with my needs more properly.Please guide me through the way. Tell me hows this configuration is and do I'm missing anything be specific with that....
Here Is the Specs:
Processor --Core i7 860 2.8GHz @ Rs. 14,800

Graphic Card -- MSI R5770 Hawk Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Rs.10,100.00/-

Motherboard --GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 Rs 11,000

RAM --Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz C9 Titanium @ Rs 5,800

Monitor -- Acer V233H 23.6" FULL HD LCD Monitor @ Rs 10,600

Speakers -- Creative Inspire T7900 7.1 Speakers Rs.7,350.00/-

Hard Disk Drive --Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB @ Rs 4,300

Power Supply --Zebronics 600W Pro @ Rs 3,700 or Corsair TX 650 @ Rs 6,800

COOLING PRODUCTS --Coolermaster V8 @ Rs 4,900

KEYBOARDS and MICE --Logitech G15 @ Rs 4,000

Cabinet --COOLER MASTER Elite 310 RC-310-RKN1-GP ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Rs.1,550.00/-
 
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1) Zebronics can't hold a candle to the corsair, so go for the Corsair tx650. Much more expensive but worth the price.
Though you seriously need to double check if the Coolermaster case is compatible with the psu. If not, it'd be a waste of money.
2) If you can, go for the Radeon HD5850. Since you are gaming on Full HD @ 1920 X 1080, the 5770 which you've shortlisted might not be able to give you adequate frame rate at max setting in all games (Crysis, Metro 2033, Battlefield: Bad Company 2, not to mention the upcoming Crysis 2).
3) Get the Western Digital Caviar Black, which is faster than the Caviar Green & about the same price.
If you can, get 2 HDDs (each 500 GB or 1 TB), one for OS, applications & games; & the other for media storage & playback. This way, you'l avoid HDD bottlenecks on the entire system.

Rest is cool.
 
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Hi guys, Thanks for response. Here I comes again for asking help.

I found i7 930 at the same rate as that of i7 860 @ Rs, 14,800.
Both have same specs almost which one should you think is better and why?

I selected Zebronics for just price but as You said it is not as good as Corasir so I will think about it. And I have not selected Cooler Master as final cabinet, just pick it to complete specs. Moreover I'm thinking to finalize the cabinet at the store itself. Thanks Again For Your all support.
 
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akash.. i'm getting a pc for a similar price...

Note this :
* Check this site : www.lynx-india.com
* USB 3.0 is still not available widely. so get a addon card later

here's what i'd choose...

Intel Core i7 930 - Rs. 14000

Asus P6T Motherboard - Rs. 16000

Corsair XMS DDR3 - Rs. 10000

Graphics Card - XFX/Sapphire 5850 ATI Radeon - Rs. 16000

Hard Disk - 1 TB WD Black - Rs. 4500

Computer Case - Cooler Master 690 - Rs. 4500

Power Supply Unit - Corsair 750 TX - Rs. 7500


 
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Although it is subjective, I would say that the i7-930 is the better one.
Reasons:
1) The 930 has a triple channel memory controller. This allows for more RAM to be incorporated into the system, which in turn, makes it future proof & ready for huge amounts of multitasking. Bear in mind that the overall cost also escalates due to increased RAM, but the investment is worth it. The i7-860 has a dual channel memory controller.
Also due to this, as a thumbrule, X58 motherboards for 930 have generally more RAM slots than those for 860
2) In case of the 930, you have a full 32 PCIe X16 lanes available for graphics. This means that you can setup two graphic cards in the 2 PCIe X16 slots & they can then make full use of the bandwidth. In comparison, with the 860, you have only 1 PCIe X16 lane, for the graphics. Even if you attach 2 graphic cards, the 16 lane bandwidth will be shared between them in form of X 8 & X 8. This way, the cards are not able to perform at their full potential.
In short, with i7-930, you can use 2 Nvidia cards (in sli), or 2 ATI cards (in Crossfire), whereas with 860, you can use only one (technically, you can use two, but since they are not able to perform at full potential, it is like money wasted)

I have written keeping in mind all the applications used by the CPUs, & not just gaming.
If you intend to use the comp solely for gaming, the 860 is the better option. Since the 860 platform costs less & for games, it really doesn't matter if the RAM is 6 GB or 4 GB. Also most games run fine on a single high end graphic card.
Al of this boils down to your personal preferance. If you intend on doing more multitasking, & are planning to add a 2nd graphics card in the future, 930 is the way to go.
 
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Although it is subjective, I would say that the i7-930 is the better one.
Reasons:
1) The 930 has a triple channel memory controller. This allows for more RAM to be incorporated into the system, which in turn, makes it future proof & ready for huge amounts of multitasking. Bear in mind that the overall cost also escalates due to increased RAM, but the investment is worth it. The i7-860 has a dual channel memory controller.
Also due to this, as a thumbrule, X58 motherboards for 930 have generally more RAM slots than those for 860

Putting in more ram won't increase performance drastically...
If 4GB RAM equal X Performance
then 8GB RAM is not equal to 2X Performance... It doesn't scale that way...

You'll hardly find a difference is many apps..


2) In case of the 930, you have a full 32 PCIe X16 lanes available for graphics. This means that you can setup two graphic cards in the 2 PCIe X16 slots & they can then make full use of the bandwidth. In comparison, with the 860, you have only 1 PCIe X16 lane, for the graphics. Even if you attach 2 graphic cards, the 16 lane bandwidth will be shared between them in form of X 8 & X 8. This way, the cards are not able to perform at their full potential.
In short, with i7-930, you can use 2 Nvidia cards (in sli), or 2 ATI cards (in Crossfire), whereas with 860, you can use only one (technically, you can use two, but since they are not able to perform at full potential, it is like money wasted)


x8 x8 gaming performance of most cards(with exception of 5970) are almost similar to x16 x 16 with loss of about 4-5% so ur money is not wasted if u go the 1156 way
 
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[a] I categorically stated that "This allows for more RAM to be incorporated into the system, which in turn, makes it future proof & ready for huge amounts of MULTITASKING". This means that performance while MULTITASKING will increase, with an increase in RAM. I wasn't referring to single applications. I NEVER said that 8 GB RAM will give twice as performance as 4 GB RAM.
It doesn't matter if the performance dip for X8 X8 graphics is only 4-5% from X16 X16. If you are paying for it, it should deliver 100% of the value. Why spend hundreds of dollars on graphics only to have them unable to deliver at their full potential (no matter how small the difference is).
 
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[a] Seriously huge amounts of multi tasking is in corporate environment for servers to handle... or video encoding and editing... i don't see that person who asked this question belonging to either category... not now not in the near future...

If you want 100% worth out of your grahics card you should pay a $75-$100 premium for a x58 motherboard over a p55 motherboard... how is this worthy in the overall scenario ??
 
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[a] Multitasking is not just for servers. I don't know about you, but many of us here play a high end game, transcode an HD video in iTunes, download through a memory intensive application like Limewire, burn a Blu-Ray; all at the same time. FYI, that is multitasking.

"i don't see that person who asked this question belonging to either category... not now not in the near future..."

It was not my idea of suggesting an i7, it was the first choice of the person who opened this thread. I was just building on that.

If you want the maximum out of you graphic card, yes, you do have to spend a bit more on your platform. It's not a question of worth. If the guy can afford it, why shouldn't he take it? And in the future, if he thinks of adding a third card, x58 is the way to go, since p55s are severely handicapped for triple configurations.
 
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multi-tasking is more in the cpu domain than ram... about the memory intensive applications u talk about... its been proven that 4 gb of ram is sufficient for most of today's applications.. when time comes he can upgrade to 8 gb.. thta shall be sufficient for years to come...

just because he has the money to spend doesn't mean he has to shell out more for what is not worth... like 4% extra performance from a crossfire graphics card configuration... about tri-fire... if anyone wants a tri-fire they'd not even consider the 1156 platform
 
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