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Chapter III, trying to get the Uthgart off, Rolgan, from Murder.. I must
have missed some evidence along the way, I know his drink must have been
spiked, but could find no way to prove it.. I know I had previously bought a
drink before taking on the case and had ended up temporarily brain damaged!
The guys dead now, but just wondered what I missed..
 
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Gary wrote:
> Chapter III, trying to get the Uthgart off, Rolgan, from Murder.. I must
> have missed some evidence along the way, I know his drink must have been
> spiked, but could find no way to prove it.. I know I had previously bought a
> drink before taking on the case and had ended up temporarily brain damaged!
> The guys dead now, but just wondered what I missed..
>
>

Good question. I always figured something like this had happened, but I
spoke to everyone involved in the trial and no one mentioned it.
 
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Gary wrote:
> Chapter III, trying to get the Uthgart off, Rolgan, from Murder.. I must
> have missed some evidence along the way, I know his drink must have been
> spiked, but could find no way to prove it.. I know I had previously bought a
> drink before taking on the case and had ended up temporarily brain damaged!
> The guys dead now, but just wondered what I missed..

I believe that bit of evidence is the one you have to heal the injured
witness to learn about.
 
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Kish wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>
>>Chapter III, trying to get the Uthgart off, Rolgan, from Murder.. I must
>>have missed some evidence along the way, I know his drink must have been
>>spiked, but could find no way to prove it.. I know I had previously bought a
>>drink before taking on the case and had ended up temporarily brain damaged!
>>The guys dead now, but just wondered what I missed..
>
>
> I believe that bit of evidence is the one you have to heal the injured
> witness to learn about.

Which witness is that?
 
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Barry Scott Will wrote:
> In any case, beyond a nice XP reward and a ****
> to Good, there's nothing particularly helpful about getting Rolgan off.



SHIFT. s-h-i-F-t to Good. :blushes and runs away:
 
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Barry Scott Will wrote:
> Barry Scott Will wrote:
>
>>In any case, beyond a nice XP reward and a ****
>>to Good, there's nothing particularly helpful about getting Rolgan off.
>
>
>
>
> SHIFT. s-h-i-F-t to Good. :blushes and runs away:

LOL. I hope you come back!
 
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LOL! Thanks for the answers, and for the added amusement. 😀
"Barry Scott Will" <nwn_usenet@cavecreations.net> wrote in message
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> Barry Scott Will wrote:
>> In any case, beyond a nice XP reward and a **** to Good, there's nothing
>> particularly helpful about getting Rolgan off.
>
>
>
> SHIFT. s-h-i-F-t to Good. :blushes and runs away:
 
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"Barry Scott Will" <nwn_usenet@cavecreations.net> wrote in message
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> Barry Scott Will wrote:
>> In any case, beyond a nice XP reward and a **** to Good, there's nothing
>> particularly helpful about getting Rolgan off.
>
>
>
> SHIFT. s-h-i-F-t to Good. :blushes and runs away:

No need to worry about that, threaten someone a few times and you will get a
shift towards evil. Very handy if you want to remain neutral.

Dave
 
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"Dave" <dave2972@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HanId.128947$K7.30475@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Barry Scott Will" <nwn_usenet@cavecreations.net> wrote in message
> news:s6ydnbGGQ6t55XHcRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> > Barry Scott Will wrote:
> >> In any case, beyond a nice XP reward and a **** to Good, there's
nothing
> >> particularly helpful about getting Rolgan off.
> >
> >
> >
> > SHIFT. s-h-i-F-t to Good. :blushes and runs away:
>
> No need to worry about that, threaten someone a few times and you will get
a
> shift towards evil. Very handy if you want to remain neutral.
>
> Dave
>
>

How do you go about threatening someone? I assume you don't mean the
emote/threaten option from the radial menu? Or in dialogue with someone? I
haven't seen that many (appropriate) threatening options when talking to
main/useful npcs, and I don't remember any when talking to "background"
npcs. I have always been put off from RPing a neutral or evil character as
most plots have an inherent shift to good. I might give it a go if there is
an appropriate way of retaining alignment.

ps only played the oc so far.


--


Merlin
 
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:23:16 -0500, Barry Scott Will
<nwn_usenet@cavecreations.net> dared speak in front of ME:

>Gary wrote:
>> Chapter III, trying to get the Uthgart off, Rolgan, from Murder.. I must
>> have missed some evidence along the way, I know his drink must have been
>> spiked, but could find no way to prove it.. I know I had previously bought a
>> drink before taking on the case and had ended up temporarily brain damaged!
>> The guys dead now, but just wondered what I missed..
>
>
>There are two main witnesses who need to be "bribed" in order to get
>Rolgan off. One is hanging out in the bar. Buy him a couple of drinks
>and he'll open up. The other is in the barracks. Use a healing kit or a
>spell on him to heal his "injured leg" and he'll tell you everything he
>knows. You can get then a unanimous "not guilty" verdict in the trial.

If you present the evidence in the right order, and don't wander off
on some of the meaningless testimony.

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"Merlin Fradley" <merlin.fradley@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave" <dave2972@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:HanId.128947$K7.30475@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Barry Scott Will" <nwn_usenet@cavecreations.net> wrote in message
>> news:s6ydnbGGQ6t55XHcRVn-vA@comcast.com...
>> > Barry Scott Will wrote:
>> >> In any case, beyond a nice XP reward and a **** to Good, there's
> nothing
>> >> particularly helpful about getting Rolgan off.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > SHIFT. s-h-i-F-t to Good. :blushes and runs away:
>>
>> No need to worry about that, threaten someone a few times and you will
>> get
> a
>> shift towards evil. Very handy if you want to remain neutral.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>
> How do you go about threatening someone? I assume you don't mean the
> emote/threaten option from the radial menu? Or in dialogue with someone? I
> haven't seen that many (appropriate) threatening options when talking to
> main/useful npcs, and I don't remember any when talking to "background"
> npcs. I have always been put off from RPing a neutral or evil character as
> most plots have an inherent shift to good. I might give it a go if there
> is
> an appropriate way of retaining alignment.
>
It has been a while since I last played NWN but there in chapter 3, I think,
with the farmers daughter you can use threats during dialogue. There are a
few others but I can't remember where they were. Another way to get some
evil points is to kill of some NPCs, eg in chapter 1 in the core, there are
some NPCs moaning about not being able to get back to the Beggars Nest.
Each time you kill one you get a few points shift towards evil.

Going back the other way is not quite as easy but when finishing a quest
don't accept payment but choose the "give it to charity" type option will
get you 5-10 points shift to good. I can't remember the exact amount,
haven't played for about 6 months.

Dave
 
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Dave <dave2972@hotmail.com> wrote:

> [snip]
> >> No need to worry about that, threaten someone a few times and you will
> >> get
> > a
> >> shift towards evil. Very handy if you want to remain neutral.
> >
> > How do you go about threatening someone? I assume you don't mean the
> > emote/threaten option from the radial menu? Or in dialogue with someone? I
> > haven't seen that many (appropriate) threatening options when talking to
> > main/useful npcs, and I don't remember any when talking to "background"
> > npcs. I have always been put off from RPing a neutral or evil character as
> > most plots have an inherent shift to good. I might give it a go if there
> > is
> > an appropriate way of retaining alignment.
> >
> It has been a while since I last played NWN but there in chapter 3, I think,
> with the farmers daughter you can use threats during dialogue.

He he, my first char accidentally got an evil shift on that one. I
mistook the dialog choice for a genuinely intended warning rather than
a threat!

> There are a few others but I can't remember where they were.

One is to threaten Milly the cleaner: it's something like "perhaps
you'd like to try cleaning without hands?" My first char was more or
less forced to do this, having failed to persuade her. I justified it
in character terms as a bluff for the greater good of the whole city
(my char was CG).

Richard.
 
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Richard Buckle wrote:

>
> One is to threaten Milly the cleaner: it's something like "perhaps
> you'd like to try cleaning without hands?" My first char was more or
> less forced

Less. You could always have fought your way in through the front door.

to do this, having failed to persuade her. I justified it
> in character terms as a bluff for the greater good of the whole city
> (my char was CG).
>
> Richard.
 
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Sent prematurely before, sorry. I'll cancel my other reply to this as
soon as it arrives.

Richard Buckle wrote:

> One is to threaten Milly the cleaner: it's something like "perhaps
> you'd like to try cleaning without hands?" My first char was more or
> less forced

Less. You could always have fought your way in through the front door.

> to do this, having failed to persuade her. I justified it
> in character terms as a bluff for the greater good of the whole city
> (my char was CG).

*twitch* I take it you view Chaotic as meaning "less good" than Lawful?
From my perspective--in which no Good alignment is "more good" than
any other--the entire concept of "for the greater good of the whole
city" is about as Lawful as it gets, and a Chaotic Good character would
be the one protesting, "No, the ends don't justify the means."
 
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Kish wrote:

> From my perspective--in which no Good alignment is "more good" than
> any other

Agreed.

> --the entire concept of "for the greater good of the whole
> city" is about as Lawful as it gets, and a Chaotic Good character would
> be the one protesting, "No, the ends don't justify the means."

I'm not sure about that. I don't necessarily disagree that a lawful
character would feel that way, but it seems like a chaotic character
would be willing to bend the rules a little and try some coercion.
 
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Kish wrote:

> [snip]
> > to do this, having failed to persuade her. I justified it
> > in character terms as a bluff for the greater good of the whole city
> > (my char was CG).
>
> *twitch* I take it you view Chaotic as meaning "less good" than Lawful?

Not in the slightest. But I /do/ view it as implying an unconstrained
willingness to ride roughshod over society's norms and regulations in
order to achieve a greater good. I think "unconstrained" is the
operative word.

> From my perspective--in which no Good alignment is "more good" than
> any other--the entire concept of "for the greater good of the whole
> city" is about as Lawful as it gets, and a Chaotic Good character would
> be the one protesting, "No, the ends don't justify the means."

Your point is well made: I'll think on it. I don't really want to start
yet another alignment debate because IME they generate more heat than
light.

Thanks for a thought-provoking post!

Richard.
 
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 03:07:11 +0000, Richard Buckle
<richardb@sailmaker.co.uk> wrote:

>He he, my first char accidentally got an evil shift on that one. I
>mistook the dialog choice for a genuinely intended warning rather than
>a threat!

Yeah, that happened to me a few times in various places.
 
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