Techguy1 :
I am leaning really far toward the evga 670 but If i knew how to overclock and knew more about all the terms and stuff
I think I would get the msi. Do you know anything that could help me get better at all this stuff like overclocking, and all the terms, building and etc? But I think I will get the EVGA because of their customer service.
Thank you so much for your help so far
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127685&Tpk=gtx%20670%20pe
I'm pretty sure that I read that the EVGA FTWs (with stock cooling) get pretty hot. 80C hot.
That's just too hot for me, so I went with that Gigabyte last week for $360. I am happy with it.
I don't think the card has reached 67C, and I almost never hear the fans.
As for overclocking, I used this simple guide
http://www.overclock.net/t/1265110/the-gtx-670-overclocking-master-guide to reach 1280MHz (max GPU clock) and 1802MHz (memory). My heaven scores at those clocks average around 1305 (everything maxed besides 3D).
***According to the guide in the link: the GPU clock is throttled down when temp reaches 70C. So, I would stay away from the reference cooler if I could. And, since the Gigabyte (Windforcex3) is as cheap or cheaper than most refernce 670s, cooler, quieter, and comes with a decent factory OC, I found it to be the right one for me, and I think its probably the right one for you.
I was looking at the ASUS DCII (non top) because they have the best cooling (apparently), but I havent seen one for less than $400 (with MIR), and they come without an OC.
That MSI Power Edition for $370 looks good as well. Good cooling, and some voltage tweaking options.