[SOLVED] What is better a stronger graphics card or stronger motherboard

[rastkomolnar]

What is better a stronger graphics card or stronger motherboard?
For gaming btw.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

That's a subjective question. First of all, what's your BUDGET ? How much are you willing to spend on a PC ? Do you plan to game on 1080p, 2K, or 4K resolution Monitors ?? Are you a HARDCORE gamer, or casual/light ?

You need to first specify your needs, then only we can recommend any GPU/MOBO. Which system are you having currently ? Do you also have a compatible PSU with you ?

 

[rastkomolnar]

That's a subjective question. First of all, what's your BUDGET ? How much are you willing to spend on a PC ? Do you plan to game on 1080p, 2K, or 4K resolution Monitors ?? Are you a HARDCORE gamer, or casual/light ?

You need to first specify your needs, then only we can recommend any GPU/MOBO.

So im buying an already made pc and i have 2 choices
AM4 A320M with RX 570 4GB 256bit
B350M-A with nVidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB 128bit
Im like in the middle and i game on1080p
If any other info is needed feel free to tell me and thank you for the help!

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Go for the RX 570 GPU. It's much faster than the GTX 1050 Ti as well. For 1080p, the RX 570 is a decent choice. Also, both the mobo models which you have listed are Okay as well. Not the very best, but sufficient for a budget gaming PC. This might be a slightly old news article, but just give it a read:

https://www.techspot.com/review/1777-geforce-1050ti-vs-radeon-570/

What about the Power supply unit ? Do have one with you right now ?

Snippet taken from the above article:

On average the Radeon RX 570 was an astounding 43% faster than the GeForce GTX 1050 Ti at 1080p. Clearly where AMD has not been able to deliver on the high-end, they are making up on budget and mainstream GPU solutions priced below $300.

The biggest AMD wins in this comparison were seen on DX12 titles supporting async compute, that said AMD did sponsor Strange Brigade and Sniper Elite 4. Meanwhile, the smallest wins were seen in Grand Theft Auto V and Assassin’s Creed Odyssey. Neither title has proven to be AMD friendly in the past, but even so the RX 570 as able to get up over the GTX 1050 Ti here.

Without a doubt, the RX 570 is a faster GPU and now that it's price matched to the 1050 Ti, or is generally a little cheaper, it’s the obvious value choice for most gamers. We will note that the RX 570’s power consumption is significantly higher that the GeForce, but you’re looking at well under 300 watts for total system consumption. So while it is extreme relative to the 1050 Ti, it’s not outrageous overall.

 

[rastkomolnar]

the processor is ryzen 7 1700 btw Thank you for the info cause many people were telling me to go with the better board and i thought that graphics matter more so rx 570 right just want to confirm it thanks again btw .

 

[rastkomolnar]

Go for the RX 570 GPU. It's much faster than the GTX 1050 Ti as well. For 1080p, the RX 570 is a decent choice. This might be a slightly old news article, but just give it a read:

https://www.techspot.com/review/1777-geforce-1050ti-vs-radeon-570/

What about the Power supply unit ? Do have one with you right now ?

Snippet taken from the above article:

On average the Radeon RX 570 was an astounding 43% faster than the GeForce GTX 1050 Ti at 1080p. Clearly where AMD has not been able to deliver on the high-end, they are making up on budget and mainstream GPU solutions priced below $300.

The biggest AMD wins in this comparison were seen on DX12 titles supporting async compute, that said AMD did sponsor Strange Brigade and Sniper Elite 4. Meanwhile, the smallest wins were seen in Grand Theft Auto V and Assassin’s Creed Odyssey. Neither title has proven to be AMD friendly in the past, but even so the RX 570 as able to get up over the GTX 1050 Ti here.

Without a doubt, the RX 570 is a faster GPU and now that it's price matched to the 1050 Ti, or is generally a little cheaper, it’s the obvious value choice for most gamers. We will note that the RX 570’s power consumption is significantly higher that the GeForce, but you’re looking at well under 300 watts for total system consumption. So while it is extreme relative to the 1050 Ti, it’s not outrageous overall.

lc power 500 w

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

lc power 500 w

I'm not that much familiar with this brand, but they do have quite a few decent Models (GOLD/Platinum/Bronze), as evident from this list. Which one do you actually have ?

https://www.lc-power.com/en/product/pc-power-supply-units/

 

[rastkomolnar]

https://www.lc-power.com/en/product/pc-power-supply-units/office-series/lc500h-12-v22/ and the entire pc specs here:
Maticna ploca: AM4 A320M(motherboard)
Procesor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 8 cores 3.0GHz (3.7GHz) Box(processor)
Memorija: DIMM DDR4 8GB 2400MHz(memory)
Hard Disk: 500GB SATA3(hard drive)
Graficka: RX 570 4GB 256bit(gpu)
Kuciste: TOWER MS Industrial (case)
Napajanje: LC Power500W 12CM (power suply)
I love the music choice btw.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

https://www.lc-power.com/en/product/pc-power-supply-units/office-series/lc500h-12-v22/

That's actually an OFFICE PSU as listed there. I don't think you should be using this to power any Gaming rig. It might work, but there is some risk factor as well. That unit just looks like a basic PSU model. It's DUAL RAIL though, having 15 AMP.

It's your choice now. If you can change/upgrade this PSU for some other high-quality PSU, then it would be much better. Else, I'm not sure whether I should recommend this LC POWER unit or not ! Though, it is having ONE 6-PIN PCI-e cable.

 

[rastkomolnar]

I know that but thats the already made pc. Im buying it like that so i guess it should work fine and im buying it from a verified store so yeah. If i remove that one and add another one i lose the warranty(i hope thats the right word cause english isnt my native language.) My plan is to keep the pc like that for a year and after that to upgrade the motherboard and the psu. what do you think about that? And sorry for taking your time.
I could make a pc myself but buying parts in my country is super expensive so this is the only way pretty much.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

My plan is to keep the pc like that for a year and after that to upgrade the motherboard and the psu. what do you think about that?

Okay, but like I have mentioned before, I'm not sure whether I should recommend this LC POWER unit or not, at least for gaming purpose. Anyways, just try using the LC POWER PSU for few months, assuming the PSU has sufficient PCI-e cables, because some cards may require at least one 6/8-PIN connectors, depending on the Model though. You can upgrade in future, if you experiencing some issues with your PC.

Most of the RX 570 cards won't be requiring a beefy PSU though, but some models require a single 6, or a single 8-pin cable, as evident from TPU's database. Buy that GPU Model which only requires a 6-PIN cable, since I think your current PSU is not having more than 1 6-PIN cable.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-570.c2939

I hope this helps ?

 

[rastkomolnar]

i didnt say it correctly. The power supply is in the pc. Im buying that pc from the store and the pc is already made those were all the specs and thats the power supply in it. if nothing else i have a good 550 w supply so ill change it if needed.
Please choose between these 2 because you surely know alot more than me:
1
Maticna Ploca: B350M-A
Procesor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 8 cores 3.0GHz (3.7GHz) Box
HDD: WD 320GB WD3200AAJS SATA2 7200 8MB Cache
Memorija: DIMM DDR4 8GB 2400MHz
Graficka: nVidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB 128bit
Kuciste: MS Industrial
Napajanje: LC POWER 500W napajanje
2
Maticna ploca: AM4 A320M(motherboard)
Procesor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 8 cores 3.0GHz (3.7GHz) Box(processor)
Memorija: DIMM DDR4 8GB 2400MHz(memory)
Hard Disk: 500GB SATA3(hard drive)
Graficka: RX 570 4GB 256bit(gpu)
Kuciste: TOWER MS Industrial (case)
Napajanje: LC Power500W 12CM (power suply)
Again thank you alot for your time and effort, i really appreciate it.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Go for the second/2 option then. But that A320 chipset mobo is slightly lower than the B350 board listed on the first rig.. Though, I don't think this is going to make a very huge difference. It only lacks support for some Overclocking function, and feature a slightly lower VRM.

A320 chipset does not support overclocking the CPU, but memory is another story.

 

[Dreamevil55]

Okay here's the deal. There's no such thing called a stronger motherboard. However, there are categories of it. The higher you go, you get features like overclocking, more fan/SATA/PICe/M.2 slots, better slot positioning and quality, better heatsinks for the VRMs and chipset, more RAM channels, better audio etc.

So, you have 2 options, the A320M and B350M. I would not suggest any of those but you have no choice but these 2 according to you. So, A320M is the barebone AM4 mobo. You can't overclock anything with it, and you just have 2 channels for RAM. So let's say you want to add more memory in the future, well, you wouldn't be able to, assuming the B350M is quad-channel. If it's dual channel as well, well, only difference would be, you won't be able to overclock your CPU.

So if the 8GB RAM is just a single stick, you will have one channel free on the A320M for future upgrades. And 3 channels free on the B350m, again, assuming it's quad.

But if you are the person who wouldn't upgrade at least in the near future, and won't overclock, the A320M package is the better choice, as you are getting a 500GB HDD and RX 570, which are better than the 320GB HDD and 1050 Ti respectively.

Now comes to PSU, well, both PSUs are terrible. But it's enough to power the both specs. However, I have doubts about the RX 570 and that PSU. Any way you can change the PSU to something at least 500W 80+ bronze of any brand ?

Last but not least, I would suggest that you get a SSD too. SATA ones are cheap. As 500/320GB are too small for 2019. So using the SSD, you can put the OS and your favorite game/software there for comfortable use. You can always buy a bigger hard drive internal or external later on.

 

[rastkomolnar]

Okay here's the deal. There's no such thing called a stronger motherboard. However, there are categories of it. The higher you go, you get features like overclocking, more fan/SATA/PICe/M.2 slots, better slot positioning and quality, better heatsinks for the VRMs and chipset, more RAM channels, better audio etc.

So, you have 2 options, the A320M and B350M. I would not suggest any of those but you have no choice but these 2 according to you. So, A320M is the barebone AM4 mobo. You can't overclock anything with it, and you just have 2 channels for RAM. So let's say you want to add more memory in the future, well, you wouldn't be able to, assuming the B350M is quad-channel. If it's dual channel as well, well, only difference would be, you won't be able to overclock your CPU.

So if the 8GB RAM is just a single stick, you will have one channel free on the A320M for future upgrades. And 3 channels free on the B350m, again, assuming it's quad.

But if you are the person who wouldn't upgrade at least in the near future, and won't overclock, the A320M package is the better choice, as you are getting a 500GB HDD and RX 570, which are better than the 320GB HDD and 1050 Ti respectively.

Now comes to PSU, well, both PSUs are terrible. But it's enough to power the both specs. However, I have doubts about the RX 570 and that PSU. Any way you can change the PSU to something at least 500W 80+ bronze of any brand ?

Last but not least, I would suggest that you get a SSD too. SATA ones are cheap. As 500/320GB are too small for 2019. So using the SSD, you can put the OS and your favorite game/software there for comfortable use. You can always buy a bigger hard drive internal or external later on.

I will be getting a 240gb ssd. Now i only have those options because buying parts in my country can be like 200% pricier than buying them in lets say usa. So because of that i have to buy an already made pc. Now i was also thinking about the second choice cause of the gpu, and another thing is that i dont use the overclock so it doesnt matter to me that i cant overclock it.I will upgrade the motherboard later on but i want to use this as my starting machine lets say. It should run most of the titles on normal at least from what ive seen so thats pretty much all i need.Thank you for all of the help but yeah i think the second option is far better than the first one. Thank you for your time again!

 

[Dreamevil55]

Sure, the second one is the better choice. I just hope that monstrosity of a PSU doesn't die on you.

 

[rastkomolnar]

Sure, the second one is the better choice. I just hope that monstrosity of a PSU doesn't die on you.

I sure hope so, but hey if anything happens in the first 24 months i have the warranty or the assurance or however its called so yeah. I have a better one at home so if needed ill just change it(PSU). This is the first time im buying a pc so i wanted to get as much info as possible. Thank you for all your time and effort mates! Oh another thing, the ryzen 7 and rtx 570 should be able to run the newest games right? on low settings at least.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Oh another thing, the ryzen 7 and rtx 570 should be able to run the newest games right? on low settings at least.

YES....You have a pretty decent CPU, and even the RX 570 is a capable card for 1080p. No need to lower all the game settings though, except for some graphic demanding PC titles. .You shouldn't be running into any serious bottleneck issues though, IMO

 

[Dreamevil55]

I sure hope so, but hey if anything happens in the first 24 months i have the warranty or the assurance or however its called so yeah. I have a better one at home so if needed ill just change it(PSU). This is the first time im buying a pc so i wanted to get as much info as possible. Thank you for all your time and effort mates! Oh another thing, the ryzen 7 and rtx 570 should be able to run the newest games right? on low settings at least.

Haha rtx 570. Anyway, in 1080p, you will be able to play most modern games at ultra-high in 60fps. Except for some terribly optimized games like any Assassin's Creed game, Metro Exodus, where you will have to tinker with the custom settings a bit to get 60 fps.

 

[rastkomolnar]

YES....You have a pretty decent CPU, and even the RX 570 is a capable card for 1080p. No need to lower all the game settings though, except for some graphic demanding PC titles. .

Thank you! Thats all i needed. You guys were really helpful and i wish you the best of luck!

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Best of luck to you as well, m8.