What is better option for gamming AMD FX-9370 + Sapphire R9 290 or Intel i7 4770k + GTX 770 oc?

[EddTeach]

At first, sorry for my english. I´m not a native speaker.

I was thinking about buying a new gaming computer. But I don´t really know what is better: AMD FX-9370 with a Sapphire R9 290 or an Intel i7 4770k with a GTX 770 oc?

Maybe it is an obvious question but I dont have any idea about this!

Ty very much guys!

 

[HEXiT]

AMD FX-9370 has no real benefits over an overclocked 8350, save your money and put it into a 290 with a better cooler. the system will run cooler and quieter without doping performance in games.
for gaming the 290 build is stronger.

 

[Danimal1q2w3]

Can't go wrong with i7 and the 770. I run a 770 in my machine. Love it very much

 

[HEXiT]

while thats true for gaming you cant go wrong with the R9 290 for more gfx performance. 8350 fairs well against the 4770k in games. the difference in cpu's is mre than made up for with the higher end gfx card.

 

[Nuck Chorris]

The i7 is overkill for gaming, get an AMD FX 6300 with an R9 290X or R9 290.

 

[VenBaja]

The i7 is overkill for gaming, get an AMD FX 6300 with an R9 290X or R9 290.

Big negative on that one. I upgraded from an FX-6300 to a 4770k, and the FPS boost on CPU intensive games was huge. The 6300 would not be good to pair with a 290x.

 

[Beezy]

6300 is great but id cap it off at a r9 280x. Anything better you want the 8320/50 OC'd to take advantage of it

 

[Nuck Chorris]

The i7 is overkill for gaming, get an AMD FX 6300 with an R9 290X or R9 290.

Big negative on that one. I upgraded from an FX-6300 to a 4770k, and the FPS boost on CPU intensive games was huge. The 6300 would not be good to pair with a 290x.

You get higher framerates on the i7 because it has more powerful cores. 1 i7 core > 1 FX 6300 core

Those 6 cores will be used more in the future because of AMD's Mantle.

 

[Nuck Chorris]

I heard Mantle will use all the cores in your CPU even if the program / game is not optimized to use all those cores. For example: a game only requires 2 cores but all 6 cores will still be used to get better framerates. Sorry for bad English.

 

[Welshstig]

Get an FX 8320 which is the same as the fx 8350 except it is alot cheaper, and with the remaining money get a good cooler and overclock it.

For the gpu wait for the non reference cards as they are about to be release, they've been showcasing the asus implementation of it and it is very good.

 

[Lessthannil]

The i7 is overkill for gaming, get an AMD FX 6300 with an R9 290X or R9 290.

Big negative on that one. I upgraded from an FX-6300 to a 4770k, and the FPS boost on CPU intensive games was huge. The 6300 would not be good to pair with a 290x.

You get higher framerates on the i7 because it has more powerful cores. 1 i7 core > 1 FX 6300 core

Those 6 cores will be used more in the future because of AMD's Mantle.

Its not that simple. Even when 6 or 8 PD cores are used, it wont supass the Core i7s in games. No matter how much you make a game like more cores and threads, it will still perfer fewer and faster ones.

Its the same thing with GPUs.

 

[Nuck Chorris]

Yes I know but I was trying to say that you don't really need the i7 for gaming. The 6300 is already fast enough and may even be faster in the future.

 

[Lessthannil]

True.

 

[Welshstig]

The fx 6300 will bottleneck a 770 oc and an r9 290. Go for an FX 8320 as I've said before.

 

[Lessthannil]

I don't think the FX 6300 will bottleneck the 770 OCed (redundant much? OC of an OC?) but imho thats about where its limit lies.

 

[Welshstig]

It'll bottleneck a bit especially since the 770 is iced aswell, the fx 8320 won't bottleneck it.

 

[Beezy]

I heard Mantle will use all the cores in your CPU even if the program / game is not optimized to use all those cores. For example: a game only requires 2 cores but all 6 cores will still be used to get better framerates. Sorry for bad English.

Is mantle something well see in a Catalyst control manager update? How can we get our current rigs to run Mantle when it comes out? I have an FX 6300 and an HD 7870 Ghz (Asus DirectCu II), will mantle work with these parts?

 

[HEXiT]

it will just work mate, if a game uses the mantle API, the gpu you have which is GNC certified will automatically use mantle. it also depends on the games supporting it as to whether you willl have options to enable or disable it as preferred default renderer.

 

[maxalge]

Yes I know but I was trying to say that you don't really need the i7 for gaming. The 6300 is already fast enough and may even be faster in the future.

It isn't fast enough, you need to overclock it and even then it's not enough.

I went from a overclocked 1055t (which is comparable to a stock 6300) to a i5, the difference is night and day in many games.

Overclocked i5 is the sweet spot right now.

 

[VenBaja]

Yes I know but I was trying to say that you don't really need the i7 for gaming. The 6300 is already fast enough and may even be faster in the future.

It isn't fast enough, you need to overclock it and even then it's not enough.

I went from a overclocked 1055t (which is comparable to a stock 6300) to a i5, the difference is night and day in many games.

Overclocked i5 is the sweet spot right now.

Yeah the 6300 is not fast enough. If it was, I wouldn't have upgraded from it. It's a huge bottleneck even when overclocked. It's great on a budget, but if you have more money, get something better.

 

[ImperialistMillitant]

I agree, the i5 4670k is the sweet spot here, or the FX 8350. Unless you do rendering an i7 makes little sense.

 

[Nuck Chorris]

I heard Mantle will use all the cores in your CPU even if the program / game is not optimized to use all those cores. For example: a game only requires 2 cores but all 6 cores will still be used to get better framerates. Sorry for bad English.

Is mantle something well see in a Catalyst control manager update? How can we get our current rigs to run Mantle when it comes out? I have an FX 6300 and an HD 7870 Ghz (Asus DirectCu II), will mantle work with these parts?

Mantle is an API just like DirectX and OpenGL. Mantle will also run on GCN based GPUs. (7870 is GCN if you didn't already know)

 

[Nuck Chorris]

Yes I know but I was trying to say that you don't really need the i7 for gaming. The 6300 is already fast enough and may even be faster in the future.

It isn't fast enough, you need to overclock it and even then it's not enough.

I went from a overclocked 1055t (which is comparable to a stock 6300) to a i5, the difference is night and day in many games.

Overclocked i5 is the sweet spot right now.

Maybe, but as I said.. Mantle might make it better. The only reason the 6300 is weak right now is because not all six cores are being used, so that means for some game that only requires dual cores, a Haswell i3 might perform better because it has better cores. But when those 6 cores get used in the future, the 6300 will smash the i3 and possibly a last gen i5.

Just look at the PS4 and XB1, both of them use AMD Jaguar 8 core CPUs that are clocked at around 1.8 to 2.8 GHz but they don't bottleneck GPUs inside the consoles (7790 for XB1 and 7850/70 for PS4).

It must be because all 8 cores are being used.

 

[VenBaja]

Yes I know but I was trying to say that you don't really need the i7 for gaming. The 6300 is already fast enough and may even be faster in the future.

It isn't fast enough, you need to overclock it and even then it's not enough.

I went from a overclocked 1055t (which is comparable to a stock 6300) to a i5, the difference is night and day in many games.

Overclocked i5 is the sweet spot right now.

Maybe, but as I said.. Mantle might make it better. The only reason the 6300 is weak right now is because not all six cores are being used, so that means for some game that only requires dual cores, a Haswell i3 might perform better because it has better cores. But when those 6 cores get used in the future, the 6300 will smash the i3 and possibly a last gen i5.

Just look at the PS4 and XB1, both of them use AMD Jaguar 8 core CPUs that are clocked at around 1.8 to 2.8 GHz but they don't bottleneck GPUs inside the consoles (7790 for XB1 and 7850/70 for PS4).

It must be because all 8 cores are being used.

They don't bottleneck those GPU's because those GPU's are as low-end as the aforementioned CPU's. Games do not scale linearly with an increased core count either, so 4 fast-as-all-get-out cores are still going to trump 6 slow (read:AMD) cores.

 

[Traxman]

Just my two cents but I have both those setups and both preform nearly the same. Each has pros and cons. Obviously games like bf4 play a lot better on my amd rig but they are so close in every test its really preference and pricing. The r9 290 has gone up in price recently so keep that in mind.

Gaming the intel rig has a slight advantage, but I do a lot of video editing as well as c++ programming and I do that work on my amd rig. It is just faster where it counts there.