[SOLVED] what is determining the 8bpc or 10bpc? is it the refresh rate or the driver?

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i have a monitor that can run on 120Hz@4k. in that rate how ever the bpc drops to 8. while in 60hz i can select 10bpc. so i like to know what is determining whether i can set the bit depth to 10 or 8? i tried a custom 4k res where the refresh rate is 90. in that i was able to select 10bpc but it never set when i press apply. my h/w setup in the signature.
 
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Hi All

i have a monitor that can run on 120Hz@4k. in that rate how ever the bpc drops to 8. while in 60hz i can select 10bpc. so i like to know what is determining whether i can set the bit depth to 10 or 8? i tried a custom 4k res where the refresh rate is 90. in that i was able to select 10bpc but it never set when i press apply. my h/w setup in the signature.

I'm assuming you are using HDMI?

The root issue is bandwidth; HDMI 2.0 simply can't drive 4k120, 4:4:4 at 10bpc. You can do 10pbc if you drop the chroma down to 4:2:0. Note this assumes no HDR; with HDR the only way to get 10bpc out of HDMI 2.0 is to drop down to 4k60.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Refresh_frequency_limits_for_standard_video...

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You should post your specifications not in your signature because not everybody reads signatures

you mean the lines after my single line? ok. here's a copy paste.

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Hi All

i have a monitor that can run on 120Hz@4k. in that rate how ever the bpc drops to 8. while in 60hz i can select 10bpc. so i like to know what is determining whether i can set the bit depth to 10 or 8? i tried a custom 4k res where the refresh rate is 90. in that i was able to select 10bpc but it never set when i press apply. my h/w setup in the signature.

I'm assuming you are using HDMI?

The root issue is bandwidth; HDMI 2.0 simply can't drive 4k120, 4:4:4 at 10bpc. You can do 10pbc if you drop the chroma down to 4:2:0. Note this assumes no HDR; with HDR the only way to get 10bpc out of HDMI 2.0 is to drop down to 4k60.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Refresh_frequency_limits_for_standard_video

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Refresh_frequency_limits_for_HDR10_video

DisplayPort 1.4 has a bit more bandwidth then HDMI 2.0, and can handle 4k120 4:4:4 at 10bpc without issue (I think; I can't find a easy breakout of DisplayPort resolutions @ 10bpc).

The easiest solution is to upgrade to a HDMI 2.1 capable GPU/cables.
 
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It's on the DisplayPort Wikipedia page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#Refresh_frequency_limits_for_standard_video

Color depth of 8 bpc (24 bit/px or 16.7 million colors) is assumed for all formats in these tables. This is the standard color depth used on most computer displays.

Gah, wikipedia put the chart under the HDR header and for some reason that chart is mimimized by default (at least for me).

So yeah, neither DP 1.4 or HDMI 2.0 can handle 4k120 @ 10bpc; thought DP could handle that but apparently not.