What is limiting my pc?

[xxxbossxxx]

So, my question is: What should i change to make my pc better? What should i prioritize? What is bottle necking it?
My specs are:
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Sk1151

GRaphics: MSI GTX970 Gaming 4GB

Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING

Ram:Kingston Hyperfury DDR4-2400MHz 8Gb
Crucial Ballistix DDR4-2400MHz 8Gb

SSD: Samsung 2.5" 750 Evo 250 Gb
Samsung 2.5" 750 Evo 250 Gb

Power: Corsair VS650W

Nox Hummer ZX


P.S: I was thinking of getting an I5 8400, any thoughts on that?

Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212X

 

[Hellfire13]

You are right about prioritizing the processor. Right now it seems to be the most limiting factor in that list. Your card is still a good one.
And yes, 8400 should be the way to go.

Edit: You could do a BIOS update and get a 7700/7700k as well.

 

[Scott_130]

The bottleneck sounds like the CPU to me. I5 8400 Is great. You could also go secondhand on a 6th gen i7?

 

[RobCrezz]

I disagree. Your graphics card is the limiting factor for games. Your cpu is decent and could run a 1070 or 1080 no problem.

A better PSU would be sensible if you went for a higher powered graphics card also.

 

[Hellfire13]

Quad core processors are already struggling in some resource hungry games like BF1. Going forward it will be struggling more as newer games come out.
970 is still around the performance of a 1060 6gb card... http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/2577vs3639

 

[xxxbossxxx]

You are right about prioritizing the processor. Right now it seems to be the most limiting factor in that list. Your card is still a good one.
And yes, 8400 should be the way to go.

Edit: You could do a BIOS update and get a 7700/7700k as well.

I thought the i5 8400 had a better value/cost than the i7 7700 and the speed difference wasn't very big. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700/3939vs3887

 

[xxxbossxxx]

The bottleneck sounds like the CPU to me. I5 8400 Is great. You could also go secondhand on a 6th gen i7?

For example?

 

[Scott_130]

I disagree. Your graphics card is the limiting factor for games. Your cpu is decent and could run a 1070 or 1080 no problem.

A better PSU would be sensible if you went for a higher powered graphics card also.

I agree with you now lol. I'd move up to the 1070.

 

[Scott_130]

I disagree. Your graphics card is the limiting factor for games. Your cpu is decent and could run a 1070 or 1080 no problem.

A better PSU would be sensible if you went for a higher powered graphics card also.

I agree with you now lol. I'd move up to the 1070.

 

[xxxbossxxx]

I disagree. Your graphics card is the limiting factor for games. Your cpu is decent and could run a 1070 or 1080 no problem.

A better PSU would be sensible if you went for a higher powered graphics card also.

So you would advise me to go for a GTX 1070 (for example) a more powerful Psu and keep the CPU as it is?

 

[Hellfire13]

You are right about prioritizing the processor. Right now it seems to be the most limiting factor in that list. Your card is still a good one.
And yes, 8400 should be the way to go.

Edit: You could do a BIOS update and get a 7700/7700k as well.

I thought the i5 8400 had a better value/cost than the i7 7700 and the speed difference wasn't very big. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700/3939vs3887

Depends on what price you get for each.
For 7700/7700k, you wont have to change the board. You can run it on your current z170 with a BIOS update.
For 8400 you have to get a new board as well.
So, bot are good options, but it depends on the price to performance ratio.

 

[xxxbossxxx]

You are right about prioritizing the processor. Right now it seems to be the most limiting factor in that list. Your card is still a good one.
And yes, 8400 should be the way to go.

Edit: You could do a BIOS update and get a 7700/7700k as well.

I thought the i5 8400 had a better value/cost than the i7 7700 and the speed difference wasn't very big. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700/3939vs3887

Depends on what price you get for each.
For 7700/7700k, you wont have to change the board. You can run it on your current z170 with a BIOS update.
For 8400 you have to get a new board as well.
So, bot are good options, but it depends on the price to performance ratio.

What board would i have to change to?

 

[Hellfire13]

You are right about prioritizing the processor. Right now it seems to be the most limiting factor in that list. Your card is still a good one.
And yes, 8400 should be the way to go.

Edit: You could do a BIOS update and get a 7700/7700k as well.

I thought the i5 8400 had a better value/cost than the i7 7700 and the speed difference wasn't very big. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700/3939vs3887

Depends on what price you get for each.
For 7700/7700k, you wont have to change the board. You can run it on your current z170 with a BIOS update.
For 8400 you have to get a new board as well.
So, bot are good options, but it depends on the price to performance ratio.

What board would i have to change to?

Coffeelake chipsets are b360/h310/h370/z370.

 

[trampus123]

Your z170 mainboard has a cpu limit of a I7-7700k the I5-8400 will not work on it.
If you must upgrade get a I7-6700k or 7700k your GPU is ok at 1080p.
If you want to run 1440p or 2160p get the gtx 1070/1070ti or 1080/1080ti.
If you want the new 8th gen CPU like the I5-8600k or I7-8700k you will need a new mainboard like a z370.

 

[xxxbossxxx]

You are right about prioritizing the processor. Right now it seems to be the most limiting factor in that list. Your card is still a good one.
And yes, 8400 should be the way to go.

Edit: You could do a BIOS update and get a 7700/7700k as well.

I thought the i5 8400 had a better value/cost than the i7 7700 and the speed difference wasn't very big. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700/3939vs3887

Depends on what price you get for each.
For 7700/7700k, you wont have to change the board. You can run it on your current z170 with a BIOS update.
For 8400 you have to get a new board as well.
So, bot are good options, but it depends on the price to performance ratio.

What board would i have to change to?

Coffeelake chipsets are b360/h310/h370/z370.

There are a few different types of z370, any major difference?

 

[xxxbossxxx]

Your z170 mainboard has a cpu limit of a I7-7700k the I5-8400 will not work on it.
If you must upgrade get a I7-6700k or 7700k your GPU is ok at 1080p.
If you want to run 1440p or 2160p get the gtx 1070/1070ti or 1080/1080ti.
If you want the new 8th gen CPU like the I5-8600k or I7-8700k you will need a new mainboard like a z370.

There are a few different types of z370, any major difference?

 

[Hellfire13]

You are right about prioritizing the processor. Right now it seems to be the most limiting factor in that list. Your card is still a good one.
And yes, 8400 should be the way to go.

Edit: You could do a BIOS update and get a 7700/7700k as well.

I thought the i5 8400 had a better value/cost than the i7 7700 and the speed difference wasn't very big. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700/3939vs3887

Depends on what price you get for each.
For 7700/7700k, you wont have to change the board. You can run it on your current z170 with a BIOS update.
For 8400 you have to get a new board as well.
So, bot are good options, but it depends on the price to performance ratio.

What board would i have to change to?

Coffeelake chipsets are b360/h310/h370/z370.

There are a few different types of z370, any major difference?

Your z170 mainboard has a cpu limit of a I7-7700k the I5-8400 will not work on it.
If you must upgrade get a I7-6700k or 7700k your GPU is ok at 1080p.
If you want to run 1440p or 2160p get the gtx 1070/1070ti or 1080/1080ti.
If you want the new 8th gen CPU like the I5-8600k or I7-8700k you will need a new mainboard like a z370.

There are a few different types of z370, any major difference?

There are differences in bus speeds/codecs/power cycles/etc. But you dont need a more expensive z370 board, unless you are buying a unlocked(K) chip. Ant decent b360/h310/h370 should do.

 

[xxxbossxxx]

You are right about prioritizing the processor. Right now it seems to be the most limiting factor in that list. Your card is still a good one.
And yes, 8400 should be the way to go.

Edit: You could do a BIOS update and get a 7700/7700k as well.

I thought the i5 8400 had a better value/cost than the i7 7700 and the speed difference wasn't very big. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700/3939vs3887

Depends on what price you get for each.
For 7700/7700k, you wont have to change the board. You can run it on your current z170 with a BIOS update.
For 8400 you have to get a new board as well.
So, bot are good options, but it depends on the price to performance ratio.

What board would i have to change to?

Coffeelake chipsets are b360/h310/h370/z370.

There are a few different types of z370, any major difference?

Your z170 mainboard has a cpu limit of a I7-7700k the I5-8400 will not work on it.
If you must upgrade get a I7-6700k or 7700k your GPU is ok at 1080p.
If you want to run 1440p or 2160p get the gtx 1070/1070ti or 1080/1080ti.
If you want the new 8th gen CPU like the I5-8600k or I7-8700k you will need a new mainboard like a z370.

There are a few different types of z370, any major difference?

There are differences in bus speeds/codecs/power cycles/etc. But you dont need a more expensive z370 board, unless you are buying a unlocked(K) chip. Ant decent b360/h310/h370 should do.

https://www.worten.pt/acessorios-de-informatica/componentes-pc/motherboards/motherboard-msi-z370-a-pro-socket-lga1151-6361104 This one would do? Or should i get an even cheaper one?

 

[Hellfire13]

Yes, that will do.

 

[RobCrezz]

I disagree. Your graphics card is the limiting factor for games. Your cpu is decent and could run a 1070 or 1080 no problem.

A better PSU would be sensible if you went for a higher powered graphics card also.

I agree with you now lol. I'd move up to the 1070.

I dont understand why the other guys are recommending a new CPU, yours is fine and youll see zero performance boost upgrading the cpu alone.

If you get a better graphics card, you will see better FPS.

 

[DSzymborski]

I don't see any compelling reason to get a new motherboard to use an 8400 over just getting a 7700k and keeping your current motherboard. Sure, you could eventually upgrade to an 8700k, but it makes more sense to switch to a new platform when you get a significant perfomance boost, something significantly better than the best of Coffee Lake.

 

[RobCrezz]

I don't see any compelling reason to get a new motherboard to use an 8400 over just getting a 7700k and keeping your current motherboard. Sure, you could eventually upgrade to an 8700k, but it makes more sense to switch to a new platform when you get a significant perfomance boost, something significantly better than the best of Coffee Lake.

But even then, whats the point of getting a 7700k while using a gtx 970? The performance difference is going to be practically 0 in games unless he had a much more powerful GPU.

 

[DSzymborski]

I don't see any compelling reason to get a new motherboard to use an 8400 over just getting a 7700k and keeping your current motherboard. Sure, you could eventually upgrade to an 8700k, but it makes more sense to switch to a new platform when you get a significant perfomance boost, something significantly better than the best of Coffee Lake.

But even then, whats the point of getting a 7700k while using a gtx 970? The performance difference is going to be practically 0 in games unless he had a much more powerful GPU.

Well, he's about to buy a whole new motherboard for an 8400, so want to talk him off that ledge first!

I fully agree that a GPU upgrade would get more bang for the buck.

 

[xxxbossxxx]

I don't see any compelling reason to get a new motherboard to use an 8400 over just getting a 7700k and keeping your current motherboard. Sure, you could eventually upgrade to an 8700k, but it makes more sense to switch to a new platform when you get a significant perfomance boost, something significantly better than the best of Coffee Lake.

But even then, whats the point of getting a 7700k while using a gtx 970? The performance difference is going to be practically 0 in games unless he had a much more powerful GPU.

Well, he's about to buy a whole new motherboard for an 8400, so want to talk him off that ledge first!

I fully agree that a GPU upgrade would get more bang for the buck.

What GPU should i buy in the same range as the gtx970 price?

 

[RobCrezz]

GTX 1070 would be a good upgrade.