[SOLVED] What is my next upgrade path!?

NitrousHD

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So my question is what is my next upgrade path for my computer? I'll list my specs and hopefully, some of you can help me decide what to do! I mostly play games btw so keep that in mind at my max budget is $700-800 dollars.

Specs:
CPU: AMD FX-6300
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 PLUS
Ram:Corsair 2x4 8gb ddr3
GPU:GTX 960 4gb
PSU:Corsair 650 watt


Hopefully someone can help me!
 
Solution
If you kept your existing case, PSU and drives, you could do even better on the graphics card side of things for that kind of money. A 1070 Ti should be able to push around 50% higher frame rates on average compared to a 1060...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/Green) CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB DUKE...
You can upgrade everything with that budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($116.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card ($239.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $796.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-02 20:48 EDT-0400
 
If you kept your existing case, PSU and drives, you could do even better on the graphics card side of things for that kind of money. A 1070 Ti should be able to push around 50% higher frame rates on average compared to a 1060...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/Green) CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB DUKE Video Card ($374.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $754.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-02 22:20 EDT-0400

I also went with a Ryzen 2600 in this build since it can be overclocked to 2600X performance levels using an aftermarket cooler, at a lower price. They are pretty much the same CPU, just with different stock clocks and a better bundled cooler on the X version. An aftermarket cooler would be even better though. For that, I went with the Freezer 33, which can be found in red, green and yellow accent colors at about the same price. There's also one with white accents, but that color doesn't seem to be in stock at the moment. Alternately, there are some other similar 120mm tower coolers in that price range as well. A B450 motherboard should allow for some overclocking too.

If you don't have an SSD, you might also consider adding one of those for your OS, applications and most-played games to improve load times. A decent SATA SSD like a Crucial MX500 or a Samsung 860 Evo can be had for around $55 for 250GB or $85 for 500GB.
 
Solution
Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
Multiplayer tends to like many threads.

You need to find out which.
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To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

You should also experiment with removing one or more cores/threads. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.



It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system,
and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
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I have little doubt that you will find the FX-6300 lacking.
The motherboard is not recommended for a FX-8...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2384024/motherboard-tier-list-970-chipset.html
Not that it matters much, you get two more threads, but the power of each core is largely unchanged.

A upgrade to a more current ryzen or intel processor, motherboard and ddr4 ram will be required.
I could see a ryzen 2600 or a intel i5-8400 as a reasonable choice.
The 9th gen intel i5-9400 is likely to appear soon and should be even better price/performance.
If you will be running multithreaded apps, that is where the ryzen processors shine.
If you are a pure gamer, then the higher clocks of intel will usually be better.
You would be very pleased with either coming from a FX processor.

GTX960 is decent, but an upgrade should probably be a significant one to a GTX1060 or GTX1070.