[SOLVED] what is the best upgrade for my pc

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My specs:

cpu: AMD Ryzen 3 3200g with radeon vega graphics

motherboard: ASRock model B450M-IBW

memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz


graphics : AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 graphics


if there is anything i did not list please say so i am not the best with computers


(Also with the AMD Ryzen 3 3200g (with integrated graphics) will i have to get a new graphics card if i upgrade my cpu)


And thank you. :)
 
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I think people over there are over complicating things, i'll give you straight answers:

1- The best upgrade for your PC right now, Assuming you want to play games with higher FPS is a GPU. Graphics cards, yeah one of those.

2- Your PSU (power supply) is totally BONKERS. I'm not even talking about the wattage, is just that i dont recommend to anyone use UNBRANDED PSU'S.
What i mean is that you should get a trusted branded one like corsair, EVGA, Antec. Preferrably with 80+ Efficiency certficates. You cant go cheap on the PSU since a crappy one can blow your PC to the air.

3- If you had a "real" 400w PSU, i'd just recommend to you to get a Low profile card or even a midrange one.
But that chinese one you're using is pretty...
Best upgrade for doing what?

What is the model of your power supply? And please, don't say "600w EVGA", because that tells me it's an EVGA power supply that is 600w, but it does NOT tell me what model it is.

Is this system mainly for gaming or what? Do you not currently have a graphics card?

What is your case model?

In fact, full system specs would really be helpful.
 
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this is mainly for gaming and i don't want lag i also at some point want to be able to use a 144hz monitor to its full effect

i don't have a graphics card unless you are counted the integrated one with my CPU

my case model is i think hopefully in this photo you might be able to find more also tough this
photo .. (i only have 8GB or ddr4 ram at 3200mhz i will get two sticks of the ones i specified above tomorrow)
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as for my power supply i don't know i am sorry



and here is a photo of the inside of the case i am not sure if this will tell you anything but here--
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None of your images are even reachable. They just give 404 errors because you are linking to pages only available to browsers with your log in cookie in them.

Upload the images to www.imgur.com after making an account there, and then post the images here using the "direct layouts" link from imgur.

 
My specs:

cpu: AMD Ryzen 3 3200g with radeon vega graphics

motherboard: ASRock model B450M-IBW

memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz


graphics : AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 graphics


if there is anything i did not list please say so i am not the best with computers


(Also with the AMD Ryzen 3 3200g (with integrated graphics) will i have to get a new graphics card if i upgrade my cpu)


And thank you. :)
Definitely you have to buy GPU if you want to upgrade your CPU to non-APU CPU (which means there's no "G" letter on each CPU series if you're going to AMD CPU). But take a note if you want to buy new GPU, please consider your PSU is able to support your system or not.
 
Unfortunately, those don't help. There's no picture of the power supply, which is the main bit of information needed for a GPU upgrade. All you can really tell from the photos are that you have an ibuypower computer and some kind of ASRock motherboard.

The power supply will have a table that looks something like this:

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There's some kind of PCIE card in there, which could be a basic GPU (it's small and you can see what look like HDMI ports on the very edge of your second photo). If you don't have any documentation for your purchase and you're not comfortable going into your PC, then there's not much help we can really provide and you'll be best off taking the PC in to a technician in your area.
 
the budget for my upgrade at most would probably be around 200$ at most if i really need to spend that much.


i am trying to game on all/most games at high settings

and i do not have any specific components in mind
 
thank you, and do you have any any ideas on what psu i should get or a recommendation if not that is fine i will try to research what is best for me.

I think people over there are over complicating things, i'll give you straight answers:

1- The best upgrade for your PC right now, Assuming you want to play games with higher FPS is a GPU. Graphics cards, yeah one of those.

2- Your PSU (power supply) is totally BONKERS. I'm not even talking about the wattage, is just that i dont recommend to anyone use UNBRANDED PSU'S.
What i mean is that you should get a trusted branded one like corsair, EVGA, Antec. Preferrably with 80+ Efficiency certficates. You cant go cheap on the PSU since a crappy one can blow your PC to the air.

3- If you had a "real" 400w PSU, i'd just recommend to you to get a Low profile card or even a midrange one.
But that chinese one you're using is pretty unstable, have that in mind beforing updating your pc further!

4- I dont think you need a CPU upgrade for now. your third gen 3200G has 4 cores 8 threads at 3.6 Ghz, thats enough to power a lot of decent graphics cards already!
 
I think people over there are over complicating things, i'll give you straight answers:

1- The best upgrade for your PC right now, Assuming you want to play games with higher FPS is a GPU. Graphics cards, yeah one of those.

2- Your PSU (power supply) is totally BONKERS. I'm not even talking about the wattage, is just that i dont recommend to anyone use UNBRANDED PSU'S.
What i mean is that you should get a trusted branded one like corsair, EVGA, Antec. Preferrably with 80+ Efficiency certficates. You cant go cheap on the PSU since a crappy one can blow your PC to the air.

3- If you had a "real" 400w PSU, i'd just recommend to you to get a Low profile card or even a midrange one.
But that chinese one you're using is pretty unstable, have that in mind beforing updating your pc further!

4- I dont think you need a CPU upgrade for now. your third gen 3200G has 4 Threads 8 Cores at 3.6 Ghz, thats about to power a lot of decent graphics cards already!
I second this. Get at least a Corsair CX450 (preferably 550) (don't get the CXM series, save money and get CV series), and whatever GPU you want, except the 1650, that's trash. Don't risk buying a good GPU with that PSU, you might fry everything, you never know.

1650 Super is a good choice, or the RX 5500 XT, I prefer Nvidia usually
 
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I think people over there are over complicating things, i'll give you straight answers:

1- The best upgrade for your PC right now, Assuming you want to play games with higher FPS is a GPU. Graphics cards, yeah one of those.

2- Your PSU (power supply) is totally BONKERS. I'm not even talking about the wattage, is just that i dont recommend to anyone use UNBRANDED PSU'S.
What i mean is that you should get a trusted branded one like corsair, EVGA, Antec. Preferrably with 80+ Efficiency certficates. You cant go cheap on the PSU since a crappy one can blow your PC to the air.

3- If you had a "real" 400w PSU, i'd just recommend to you to get a Low profile card or even a midrange one.
But that chinese one you're using is pretty unstable, have that in mind beforing updating your pc further!

4- I dont think you need a CPU upgrade for now. your third gen 3200G has 4 cores 8 threads at 3.6 Ghz, thats enough to power a lot of decent graphics cards already!

The "People" you are referring to, have more experience in the last year working on and with computers, than what you have in your entire life. Period.

As to your "recommendations", let's take a look at those.

Yes, obviously a graphics card is a no brainer for a system that doesn't have one, so that's pretty much a foregone conclusion, but it requires that there is also a satisfactory power supply in use.

So your response is that you don't recommend an unbranded PSU, AFTER they already said they have a RAIDMAX power supply. If you're going to make recommendations on power supplies, at least have some kind of knowledge about them AND hopefully take the time to actually make recommendations based on what the OP has said they HAVE, which isn't an unbranded unit, but it might as well be because it's a pile of crap anyhow and if we're being honest and making legitimate recommendations, it probably shouldn't even be used with the system as is, with NO graphics card installed, much less WITH one. So, some kind of decent quality power supply in a capacity that is acceptable for whatever graphics card they decide to go with, is and should be the first thing on the menu.

I can agree about the CPU, it can work for now. It's no worse than a lot of systems really, running i7's from years past that are also 4/8 and still hanging in there so swapping that for something more capable can definitely wait until down the road if it needs to.

As far as having a "real 400w" PSU, and it being able to be used with a "low profile" or "midrange one", what is that even supposed to mean? There are low profile cards from many different performance levels and tiers, some of which will definitely not do well with only a 400w power supply, no matter how good it is. And as far as "midrange ones' are concerned, there are approximately ZERO midrange graphics cards from this, or any of the last four generations or so from either AMD or Nvidia, that I would feel at all comfortable with recommending that a 400w power supply is sufficient for. Practically all midrange cards from the last three or four generations have been in the 500-550w range, and could MAYBE get by with a really good 450w unit, but I would expressly not recommend doing so. You'd be pushing your luck, living at the edge of a noise level that is tolerable and almost certainly shortening the life of the power supply as well. Not to mention, putting the life of your card on the line since the PSU would likely be "living" in an output range that makes it very unlikely that it would keep within the ripple and voltage regulation ranges that it would have had it not been in use with such a taxing configuration.

So there are your straight answers, doesn't seem terribly complicated, and certainly not over complicated, to me. Furthermore, if you really don't know what you are talking about, it's probably a good idea to avoid making recommendations to real people who are likely to spend their REAL MONEY on the half baked suggestions that often get made here by people who don't really have any, or very little, business recommending anything to anybody, ever. We really take offense at leading people down the wrong path, especially when you take the opportunity to also make derogatory or inflammatory statements while doing it.


And by the way, as Dszymborski noted, there is only a single stick of RAM installed in your motherboard, so the memory kit listed in the OP is obviously NOT what is installed in this system. It would be a good idea to verify that you actually have the amount of RAM installed that you think you do, as well as the rest of it's specs.
 
I might of not specified this above and i am sorry but i have

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz

shipping to me it is going to arrive today or tomorrow and i just didn't want any recommendations on ram since it is already on the way here.
 
Ok, so the memory is COMING, not what you already have. Makes more sense now.

So, if you want to upgrade the system for the least amount of money to get the best bang for your buck for gaming, you would definitely, as already mentioned, want to add a graphics card which means you'll also need a new power supply. What is your budget, in your native currency, for a graphics card and power supply, if that is something you are still interested in doing?
 
The "People" you are referring to, have more experience in the last year working on and with computers, than what you have in your entire life. Period.

As to your "recommendations", let's take a look at those.

Yes, obviously a graphics card is a no brainer for a system that doesn't have one, so that's pretty much a foregone conclusion, but it requires that there is also a satisfactory power supply in use.

So your response is that you don't recommend an unbranded PSU, AFTER they already said they have a RAIDMAX power supply. If you're going to make recommendations on power supplies, at least have some kind of knowledge about them AND hopefully take the time to actually make recommendations based on what the OP has said they HAVE, which isn't an unbranded unit, but it might as well be because it's a pile of crap anyhow and if we're being honest and making legitimate recommendations, it probably shouldn't even be used with the system as is, with NO graphics card installed, much less WITH one. So, some kind of decent quality power supply in a capacity that is acceptable for whatever graphics card they decide to go with, is and should be the first thing on the menu.

I can agree about the CPU, it can work for now. It's no worse than a lot of systems really, running i7's from years past that are also 4/8 and still hanging in there so swapping that for something more capable can definitely wait until down the road if it needs to.

As far as having a "real 400w" PSU, and it being able to be used with a "low profile" or "midrange one", what is that even supposed to mean? There are low profile cards from many different performance levels and tiers, some of which will definitely not do well with only a 400w power supply, no matter how good it is. And as far as "midrange ones' are concerned, there are approximately ZERO midrange graphics cards from this, or any of the last four generations or so from either AMD or Nvidia, that I would feel at all comfortable with recommending that a 400w power supply is sufficient for. Practically all midrange cards from the last three or four generations have been in the 500-550w range, and could MAYBE get by with a really good 450w unit, but I would expressly not recommend doing so. You'd be pushing your luck, living at the edge of a noise level that is tolerable and almost certainly shortening the life of the power supply as well. Not to mention, putting the life of your card on the line since the PSU would likely be "living" in an output range that makes it very unlikely that it would keep within the ripple and voltage regulation ranges that it would have had it not been in use with such a taxing configuration.

So there are your straight answers, doesn't seem terribly complicated, and certainly not over complicated, to me. Furthermore, if you really don't know what you are talking about, it's probably a good idea to avoid making recommendations to real people who are likely to spend their REAL MONEY on the half baked suggestions that often get made here by people who don't really have any, or very little, business recommending anything to anybody, ever. We really take offense at leading people down the wrong path, especially when you take the opportunity to also make derogatory or inflammatory statements while doing it.


And by the way, as Dszymborski noted, there is only a single stick of RAM installed in your motherboard, so the memory kit listed in the OP is obviously NOT what is installed in this system. It would be a good idea to verify that you actually have the amount of RAM installed that you think you do, as well as the rest of it's specs.

off to a bumpy start...

Fine fine. easy now.
So basically you agree with two points, and, and disagrees with the last one about the wattage needed for the GPU. Thanks for the constructive criticism. See, done and not overcomplicated. C'mon you dont have to be so defensive about a post i made, i didnt target you or any of your friends,

Oh, and by 'people over there', i didnt mean this site at all. i meant the post itself. i have only 1 post (excluding this entry) so judge for yourself if i'm just coming to trashtalk your community just because.

i'm still positive that my basic language made more benefit than hazard to the OP, as i stressed enough that a new, reliable PSU is needed. Noise aside, the error was pointed. And i apologize for the incorrect GPU wattage statement. (that even thought was only a supposition, it was incorrect for sure.)


Again, i'm sorry for any misinformation and im grateful for corrections, but in my naiveté, i think you should be a little less stressed about it. I did not "flame" anyone, I just wished that people talked a little more didatically to the confused OP. this is really overthinking stuff.

I wish you peace. And even after your toxic commentary, i will still use this forum if i have a chance to (now that i just made a account). Unless you proihibit me from doing it.

But feel free to disregard everything above, as ''i should NEVER recommend anything to anybody''.
 
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