What is the cheapest gaming PC i can build for playing and Record at 1080p 60fps comfortably

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So yes the cheapest gaming PC that can Run and record even newer games at 1080p and at 60fps comfortably on high or Ultra setting.

I pretty sure it can be done under £1000 i know you don't need to spend over that amount of money to achieve that. I do have a Case and PSU in mind, if can find one cheaper and still looks as nice please add it to the list thanks. PSU https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/c/Cor_Products_PowerSupply_Units?q=%3Afeatured%3ApsuPower%3A450+Watts%3ApsuModular%3ASemi&text=#rotatingText

Case https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2tTrxr/corsair-spec-04-blackred-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011107-ww
 

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what i if i got the APU version of a ryzen 5 if there is one, that saves me having to buy a GPU then, or is the integrated GPU not powerful enough to play and record all games on high or Ultra.
 

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no , the integrated graphics is definitely not powerful enough for games and ultra and most definitely not for video editing and rendering . if you wanna tighten your budget more strat with a ryzen 3 instead .
 

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that motherboard certainly would Not make for a Cheap build .
 

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a Ryzen 5 with some amd gpu , like a sapphire nitro 580 , the rest you can spend on a decent gaming mouse and headset
 
Definitely. The RX580 8GB is more power-hungry, but performs equal to or perhaps SLIGHTLY better than the 1060 6GB, and in the US and UK is generally available for substantially less money. Occasionally you will find a 1060 6GB that dips into the RX 580 8GB's price range, though, which then makes the Nvidia card worth considering.
 

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I know this GPU is a bit costly but i don't mind saving a bit longer if it's the case, it's the Vega 64 i got a feeling that PC Case i put in the Link above won't fit that MOBO that i also put in the Link above. If i choose to get that GPU instead will that PSU be enough to run it or will i need something more Powerful.
 
The Vega 64 is a complete waste if your monitor is 1920x1080 @ 60Hz. Unless for some reason it's available for ridiculously cheap, there's no point in paying the extra money for it.

Furthermore, the PSU would be completely inadequate. The Vega 64 itself can draw as much as 300W, with some brief spikes higher. If I recall correctly, something like 650 or 700 watts is recommended.
 

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So definitely the RX 580 is better than the GTX 1050 ti.. will that PSU be enough for the RX 580 and if so will that MOBO https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming-amd-x470-s-am4-ddr4-sata3-dual-m2-2-way-sli-crossfire-gbe-usb31-gen fit in this Case https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2tTrxr/corsair-spec-04-blackred-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011107-ww and if it dose, When i finely get this CPU https://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-ryzen-5-2600-am4-zenplus-6-core-12-thread-34ghz-39ghz-turbo-19mb-cache-65w-cpu-retail-plus-wrait With that CPU and GPU will i be able to "play and record" almost every on high or even Ultra.
 
While I would consider the Radeon RX 580 to be a good value for 1080p, if you want to run the latest games at ultra settings, something like Nvidia's new RTX 2060 would enable you to do that for longer with future titles, as it's about 50% faster, and should still be within your budget.

I'm not sure I would spend a ton on a higher-end X470 motherboard though, since B450 boards can also support overclocking. Here's an example of a build that could be within your budget...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£144.95 @ AWD-IT)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/Red) CPU Cooler (£24.82 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£84.78 @ Aria PC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£109.59 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£61.35 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£57.60 @ PC World Business)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card (£331.19 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£50.14 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.93 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £939.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-07 18:15 GMT+0000

I added an aftermarket tower cooler to enable better overclocking than the stock cooler, though alternately, you could just go with a 2600X, which comes with higher stock boost clocks that make overclocking less needed, and a better stock cooler than the 2600.

As for playing and recording, I don't do that myself and don't know the exact specifics of the performance demands for it, but it might be worth considering moving up to a Ryzen 2700 to have a couple more cores available to run those additional recording tasks in the background.
 
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I'm not planning on overclocking that something i don't really i do, i do have 1Tb SSH and 2 TB HDD all ready so that saves me money right there. I do youtube gaming.
 
With an RX580, the CX450M should be good to go. My son's PC has a Skylake i5 CPU, PowerColor Red Dragon RX580 8GB, and Dell's stock 460W power supply (I think only 385 or 400W available on the 12V rail), and it handles it just fine. His previous video card (R9 285 overclocked from the factory) had about the same power draw. He games at 2560x1080, and on some games it runs in the mid-40s or low 50s fps because of the higher resolution.

The Corsair can provide almost the full 450W it produces on the 12V rail, so you're good.
 
I'd definitely prefer the Seasonic myself as cryo suggested, though I wouldn't necessarily advise going up to a GTX 2060.

If you want a little extra headroom in the GPU department, while more power hungry, and not exactly the best bang-for-buck tradeoff, you might consider an RX 590, or possibly, for even more money, snag the Zotac Mini GTX 1070, which more than enough headroom for 1920x1080 @ 60Hz, but is still a bit less pricey than the RTX 2060.

Here's the PCPartPicker listing - I selected RX580 8GB, RX590 8GB, GTX 1070, and RTX 2060, in order of price lowest to highest.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=369,415,436,391,431&sort=price&G=6442450944,8589934592
 
Weird, I click on that link it says document permanently gone... then goes to the home page.

Here was the review on Tom's. The price/performance complaint was based on the original price of USD$279.99, though that's come down for some models.

Something like a 9% gain overall.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-590,5907.html


But I have to ask what the goal is here, now? It seems like it might be shifting since you first posted, with the move to looking for higher performing video cards for a monitor that can't take advantage of that performance.
 

Why are all but one of those GTX 1070s priced higher than an RTX 2060? Apparently no one sent UK retailers the memo that a 2060 generally performs similar to a 1070 Ti, or around 15% faster than a 1070. : P

Really though, that just confirms that the 2060 is generally a better value than a 1070, at least over there, especially considering the new hardware features that will likely be of at least some benefit down the line. And the RX 590, being only around 5-10% faster than an RX 580, is not really worth the added cost in my opinion. So if one wants more performance than an RX 580, the 2060 seems to be a solid choice. It might not be that large of an upgrade over what was available in it's price range last generation, but it should still be an upgrade, and certainly a fair amount faster than an RX 580/590 or GTX 1060.


Yeah, I wasn't sure if you might have storage already. By "1TB SSH" do you mean an SSHD hybrid drive (spinning platters with an SSD cache) because if so it might still be worth moving to an SSD for your boot drive and to install your most-played games to for more consistent performance.

If you don't intend on overclocking, the 2600 is still fine, though it might also be worth moving up to the 2600X, since it boosts higher. I mentioned the 2700 previously for its extra cores, but it doesn't boost as high as even the 2600 at stock, so it might only be a better choice for gaming than a 2600X if you overclock it. And of course, the higher-clocked 2700X is an option, but costs more. Tom's made a chart comparing these CPUs stock multi-core boost clock rates that can be found near the bottom of the first page of their 2600 review...
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-2600,5625.html
 

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same with me idk what happened..you mean the RTX 2060 or the RX 590.. i was thinking on going with the RTX 2060 but just finished watching a video RX 570 vs RX 580 vs RX 590 and at 1080p the RX 590 was always above 60fps apart from Watch dogs 2 which is 3 years old but just under 60fps. so i might go with the RX 590 since its £100 cheaper.
 

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LOL typo sorry yea i meant to say SSD and it's 1 TB
 

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