What is the cost of Windows on your brand new laptop?

[Gerbits]

What I mean is how much Lenovo, Dell or whatever charge you on when Windows is installed on your laptop or desktop. Laptop is $500 and Windows $300 means the laptop without Windows will be $200?

 

[CDdude55]

Not fully sure what you mean, but the cost of a windows installation is minuscule to the overall price of the laptop. If someone was going to sell you a laptop without Windows they wouldn't take that much off the original price unless they like getting ripped off or have an exaggerated sense of how expensive operating systems are. I haven't heard of brand name sellers selling systems without OS's so it's kind of difficult to understand what you need/want.

 

[Gerbits]

Not fully sure what you mean, but the cost of a windows installation is minuscule to the overall price of the laptop. If someone was going to sell you a laptop without Windows they wouldn't take that much off the original price unless they like getting ripped off or have an exaggerated sense of how expensive operating systems are. I haven't heard of brand name sellers selling systems without OS's so it's kind of difficult to understand what you need/want.

Yeah, folk. You did no understand the question. I am not talking about the installation, I am talking about the cost of Windows on the system.

I will add a two links with some specs so you can hear now about brand name sellers selling systems wiithos OS. One and two. They are desktop systems sold without OS.

 

[CDdude55]

Not fully sure what you mean, but the cost of a windows installation is minuscule to the overall price of the laptop. If someone was going to sell you a laptop without Windows they wouldn't take that much off the original price unless they like getting ripped off or have an exaggerated sense of how expensive operating systems are. I haven't heard of brand name sellers selling systems without OS's so it's kind of difficult to understand what you need/want.

Yeah, folk. You did no understand the question. I am not talking about the installation, I am talking about the cost of Windows on the system.

I will add a two links with some specs so you can hear now about brand name sellers selling systems wiithos OS. One and two. They are desktop systems sold without OS.

Those are server systems that allow the user to choose what OS they want to install. I'm still not fully sure what you mean but the cost of the OS, it depends on which one you buy. You can also customize those servers and pay extra to have an OS. For instance that Lenovo server has the option to install Windows Server 2012 Foundation for an extra $250.

 

[basroil]

Yeah, folk. You did no understand the question. I am not talking about the installation, I am talking about the cost of Windows on the system.

I will add a two links with some specs so you can hear now about brand name sellers selling systems wiithos OS. One and two. They are desktop systems sold without OS.

You are comparing two models from two different companies with different specs. Of course you'll see price differences.

Windows does not cost you anything when buying a computer, and most manufacturers will never lower the price of a system more than $50 just because it doesn't have Windows. So far almost all the major companies have linux versions of their main business lines, but costs with and without windows are nearly the same. After all, OEM licenses are dirt cheap and those companies don't get profit margins by charging you extra for something their competitors give for more or less nothing.

Bottom line is: the question is stupid. It doesn't matter what Windows would "cost" because nobody is going to mass produce a computer without an OS (unless you are in the business/enterprise market, but at that point the machines and other software cost so much that OS costs are negligible)

 

[orlbuckeye]

It's not a stupid question. Most OEM's will charge the same for Linux as Windows. If you configure your PC from the OEM's website it's usally $50.00 to upgrade from Home to Pro for Windows. Exotic PC sells Sager systems with No OS's and Sager itself used to sell with or without an OS. You do pay for Windows when you buy a PC but its usually in with the base price. MS charges the OEM and they charge the customer. The thing is nowadays the OS is installed in the factory and activated and a system restore partitian is created. If the customer does want restore disks some OEM's will sell for 15.00 or so.

 

[basroil]

You do pay for Windows when you buy a PC but its usually in with the base price.

This is exactly the point, BASE PRICE. The system will not be sold below that base price just because OP wants them to refund the OS. Hence it's a stupid question because it's one that can never be answered because of arbitrary reasons that the companies don't need to state.

 

[orlbuckeye]

You do pay for Windows when you buy a PC but its usually in with the base price.

This is exactly the point, BASE PRICE. The system will not be sold below that base price just because OP wants them to refund the OS. Hence it's a stupid question because it's one that can never be answered because of arbitrary reasons that the companies don't need to state.

Well most PC's you can't order without Windows and they charge 50.00 to upgrade to Pro which is an across the board price. It's sort of like buying a car and getting tires. The thing is Windows is the same on every machine and a graphics card and other components are different depending on model or Brand. Best Buy and other retailer aren't allowed to do pre sale modification to the systems they sell. No if a customer wants to change, The configuration they have to do it post sale thru the Geek Squad. MS allow you to do an upgrade from home of PRO from within Windows. I've heard people say they asked for Linux when they buy from the OEM and the OEM state there is still a charge for the OS eventhough Linux is free. It used to be that MS charged the OEM for Windows on every machine the OEMs sold but that was part of the law suit against MS so they don't do that anymore.

 

[basroil]

Well most PC's you can't order without Windows

That's the entire point, the cost is irrelevant and the OP's question is invalid because of that.

and they charge 50.00 to upgrade to Pro which is an across the board price.

They charge you for memory upgrades above the base amount as well. That doesn't change the fact that the base OS cost is irrelevant since hte system is given as a whole.

The thing is Windows is the same on every machine and a graphics card and other components are different depending on model or Brand.----- I've heard people say they asked for Linux when they buy from the OEM and the OEM state there is still a charge for the OS eventhough Linux is free.

1) The OS is the same, that doesn't mean the system is the same
2) Regardless of if it's Windows or Linux, the OEMs have to develop or modify drivers for their specific builds. That costs money to make, and that's why they charge money. In fact, for specialty applications (custom hardware, etc) sometimes the cost of developing for "linux" is actually far greater than Windows because you have to deal with distro incompatibilities or code that is just not perfectly portable.


Bottom line is this: there is no cost for Windows on a new OEM system, since the OEM dictates a base price for the system as a whole including OS. If the system is designed without an OS, the cost of the OS will be the standard cost of the OS (generally around 80~100 bucks for home OEM) plus additional costs for making, maintaining, and testing drivers/firmware for that OS.

 

[orlbuckeye]

To answer the original question. You will most likely pay the same with or without an OS when dealing with an OEM.

If you look at Exoticpc's the major OEM laptops they sell don't have an option for no OS and come with Windows 10 Home. If you want to to go to Windows 10 Pro it's 145 and Windows 7 is 135. By this I'm assuming they get the major brand PC's with Windows 10 Home installed as no media is included in the package. But if you get Pro or Windows 7 you get the disk. They charge 15 dollars to do a clean install. So I'm assuming that they give you a generic OEM version of Pro (like you would get from Newegg and not a Asus, MSI or Alienware Key). But the brand Sager machines can be purchased with no OS and they charge $80 for a clean install of Windows 10 home and 130 for Windows 10 Pro and 130 for Windows 7 Pro.