[SOLVED] What motherboard for 3700x?

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Hello everyone. A friend of mine will buy a ryzen 7 3700x and he doesn't know what motherboard to pair the cpu with. He wants to buy a x470 mobo because x570 motherboards are really expensive. His budget is 120-160€. So which x470 motherboard should he buy? He doesn't want to overclock btw. Thanks in advance.
 

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Will this max version work out of the box with the 3700x? Also we live in Greece and this version hasn't released here yet.
Yes the MAX version will be Ryzen 3000 Ready out of the Box.
Meaning it will already have the new BIOS updated for the Ryzen 3xxx CPUs on it.
If you choose one of the other boards by ASUS, AsRock or Gigabyte you can probably get a local PC shop to update the BIOS for you at a reasonable price.
 

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Most x470 motherboards will require an older AMD CPU to be installed to update the BIOS to support the 3xxx CPU's.
There are some that have a BIOS Flashback feature that allow you to update the BIOS without a CPU installed.
Also the new MSI B450 MAX version boards will have a new bigger BIOS chip than the MSI non-Max boards and be ready for the 3xxx CPU's out of the box.
Here is a list of boards that have the Flashback feature:
ASRock (BIOS Flashback)
None!
ASUS (USB BIOS Flashback)
ASUS Crosshair VI Extreme
ASUS Crosshair VI Hero
ASUS Crosshair VI Hero (Wi-Fi AC)
ASUS Crosshair VII Hero
ASUS Crosshair VII Hero (Wi-Fi)
Gigabyte (Q-Flash Plus)
None!
MSI (Flash BIOS Button) [
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE
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MSI B450 Gaming Plus
MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
MSI B450 Tomahawk
MSI B450-A Pro
MSI B450M Bazooka Plus
MSI B450M Gaming Plus
MSI B450M Mortar
MSI B450M Mortar Titanium
MSI X370 Gaming M7 ACK
MSI X370 XPower Gaming Titanium
MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC

Note:
The MSI non-MAX boards have a 16 MB BIOS chip and are limited to a text based BIOS UI and may have issues with size limitations with newer AGESA versions.


This is a good reference for checking the VRM on motherboards to see how well they will handle the 3xxx CPUs:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818
 
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Any x470, but will have to drop an earlier Ryzen in it to do the bios update. It's ok for people with existing Ryzen builds to upgrade but if buying new some considerations will require effort.

Wait for prices to come down or wait for 550 boards to land.
 

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Most x470 motherboards will require an older AMD CPU to be installed to update the BIOS to support the 3xxx CPU's.
There are some that have a BIOS Flashback feature that allow you to update the BIOS without a CPU installed.
Also the new MSI B450 MAX version boards will have a new bigger BIOS chip than the MSI non-Max boards and be ready for the 3xxx CPU's out of the box.
Here is a list of boards that have the Flashback feature:
ASRock (BIOS Flashback)
None!
ASUS (USB BIOS Flashback)
ASUS Crosshair VI Extreme
ASUS Crosshair VI Hero
ASUS Crosshair VI Hero (Wi-Fi AC)
ASUS Crosshair VII Hero
ASUS Crosshair VII Hero (Wi-Fi)
Gigabyte (Q-Flash Plus)
None!
MSI (Flash BIOS Button) [
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE
]
MSI B450 Gaming Plus
MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
MSI B450 Tomahawk
MSI B450-A Pro
MSI B450M Bazooka Plus
MSI B450M Gaming Plus
MSI B450M Mortar
MSI B450M Mortar Titanium
MSI X370 Gaming M7 ACK
MSI X370 XPower Gaming Titanium
MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC

Note:
The MSI non-MAX boards have a 16 MB BIOS chip and are limited to a text based BIOS UI and may have issues with size limitations with newer AGESA versions.


This is a good reference for checking the VRM on motherboards to see how well they will handle the 3xxx CPUs:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818
So for example, if he buys the msi b450 gaming pro carbon ac, will he be able to run the new cpu using the bios flashback?
 

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Yes,
BUT it has a 16 MB BIOS chip so it will have a text based BIOS UI like this:
https://www.msi.com/page/mb-beta-bios

And it may (or may not) have issues with newer AGRESA versions due to it's size limitations.
If I was looking to buy an MSI B450 board I would want the MAX version like this one:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX/Overview
Will this max version work out of the box with the 3700x? Also we live in Greece and this version hasn't released here yet.
 

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Will this max version work out of the box with the 3700x? Also we live in Greece and this version hasn't released here yet.
Yes the MAX version will be Ryzen 3000 Ready out of the Box.
Meaning it will already have the new BIOS updated for the Ryzen 3xxx CPUs on it.
If you choose one of the other boards by ASUS, AsRock or Gigabyte you can probably get a local PC shop to update the BIOS for you at a reasonable price.
 

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Yes the MAX version will be Ryzen 3000 Ready out of the Box.
Meaning it will already have the new BIOS updated for the Ryzen 3xxx CPUs on it.
If you choose one of the other boards by ASUS, AsRock or Gigabyte you can probably get a local PC shop to update the BIOS for you at a reasonable price.
Yeah I think getting a local pc shop to update the bios is better. Thanks for the help!
 

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