Yea, that's the best deal around now.It's slightly over your budget, but this card is a steal although it's hard to tell if it is compatible with your needs.
I plan to do mild gaming and it will be paired with my x2 4200+ which is basicaly a budget build.
I doubt you ticked anyone off, they just want to set you straight so the OP doesn't think the 7900GS is better than it is.OK, I seem to have ticked some people (??) off.
You missed running surround gaming resolutions, which NVidia supports 3 - 1024x768 and 1280x1024 monitors, and the X1xxx's max out at 3 800x600 screens. The X800's can't even do that in 3D. But come on, 3d stereo, surround gaming, and linux make up a tiny % of gamers. It's worth mentioning, but is not a reason for picking a slower card, with less features/IQ unless that is your specific need. As you probably know, the 8800 series doesn't have NVidia 3d stero drivers that support it because the latest NV stereoscopic drivers are ancient. But 99 out of 100 gamers wouldn't care and would rather have an 8800GTS than a 7900GTX. I use a wimpy 7800GT with my 3D glasses and an 8800GTS for surround gaming, and the X1950XT in a spare machine.To qualify, IF you ever want to try:
Linux
CAD
3D stereoscopic DirectX and OpenGL gaming. (Each eye will see a different image, accomplished by differing methods)
Then an ATI card is not the right choice.
Yeah, And My Ford Superduty Truck will murder a Corvette Z06 in the quarter mile!!! WHEN BOTH ARE PLOWING SNOW AND CARRYING A 2500lb PALLET OF ROCK SALT. Again, that's good for you but doesn't mean squat to the other 99 out of 100 people. Look at my link above and the X1950XTX destroys the 7900GTX in every game at the kind of maxed out IQ settings people would use them at.My 7900GS is custom-flashed with a 650MHz core and a Zalman with Ramsinks. It will murder a X1950XTX, IN THE GAMES/APPS I RUN, for instance ATI has Zero support for stereoscopic 3D.
As it is to me, but I sure wouldn't want to use my 7800GT CO over my X1950XT if not using the 3d glasses.I notice you guys/gals seem to be harping on the Linux comment. I rarely use Linux or CAD, but 3D stereoscopic drivers are important.
7900GS is a nice OC'in card if purchased cheap. it's still not a X1950XT killer though.He mentioned $170, a mid-range price point, I assumed he was looking for "bang-for-the-buck", and thoughts of overclocking immediately came to mind.
Not sure what the anything else is. Most people buy these cards to game. And a max overclocked X1950XT will beat a max overclocked 7900GS. So a better comment would be like GrApe said above, if the X1950XT is out of desired budget, then he could look at the X1950 pro or 7900GS. For $180 he won't beat that X1950XT though.My points are valid, if he just wants to game and not tweak or do anything else, get the ATI. If he wants to do anything else or overclock, the 7900 is a much better deal.
LOL, so a 1024x768 no fsaa win for NV = the high res FSAA win for the ATI? That's a noob error to point to 10x7 no fsaa results. tsk, tsk. :roll: And no offense to Tom's but those charts kinda suck IMO anyway. I'd rely on other reviews (from say XBit or even the FS I linked to above) more if there is a discreptency between the two.Take a look at these results, 7900 kills ATI:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=723&model2=709&chart=275
Take a look at these, ATI kills 7900:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=723&model2=709&chart=279
I take that as see-sawing for the lead, and depending on your needs one or the other will be ahead, also your system makes a difference.
Um, correction needed. Lower power is true for sure and makes the 7900GS a nice card for those who's pSU won't take the X1950XT. But the X1950XT's heat is pumped directly out of the case by it's dual slot/rear exhaust cooler, and not circulated within the case like with the 7900GS, so that part is wrong.Do you need a low-power usage card that doesn't contribute a lot of heat to your case? The 7900 has about half the power usage of the ATI card, just something to take into consideration. Probably also why it is such a good overclocker.
It never hurts to offer good alternatives and state why they are good. Like you said, it probably won't benefit him anyway though. I'm holding onto the 7800GT just for the 3d glasses, but I am hoping for a long overdue driver for the 8800 series so I can use that instead, as both the X1950Xt and 8800GTS spank that 7800GT by so much it blows to use the GF7. Luckily 3d glasses and Oblivion don't mix well anyway, as the 7800GT is unbearable after using those other two cards in that game. The IQ difference in my games at max playable settings is huge!If I didn't do all the stuff I do I wouldn't need a 7900 series, that is why I put in the disclaimers, my situation is not his situation, I was only pointing out the options in the price range.
Not a bad find and I'm happy for you and your OC. Game on. But It's still $125 for a used card which right now isn't as good a deal since both the X1950 pro and 7900GS have been $130 new. But shoot, my His X1950XT iceQ Turbo was $260 I think, and now many months later this reference cooled X1950XT is $180 no rebates. Oh well, it's bound to happen almost every time.I personally found my 7900GS for $120, that makes it an absolute bargain (It helped that the second-hand store had a NIB Zalman cooler for $5 when I went the next day, but there are deals on eBay as I posted).