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I am getting a couples new things. Motherboard memory and processor. Current setup
E-Power Zumax 550W 38 Amps @rail
Asus P5LD2 Deluxe
Pentium D 2.66 @3.77 @1.44V
4 Sticks Kingston DDR2 667 @ 3,3,3,8,3 @2.15V
Asus EAX1900XTX 512MB
2 WD SATA 16MB Cache 160MB Drives in Raid0
Sound card / 2 burners / Big Case / Couple fans / some good Zalman products and some good heatsink gunk on everything.

I will be getting an E6600 and the new ASUS P5K Premium and some new memory. I am torn between DDR2 800 or DDR2 1066. Every ones opionion I have come across has been leaning towards both so it is confusing to me at this eplopkjnkjlnfvpoint. I obviously like to overclock so that it mind, what memory should I aim for? The more people that reply the better thanks ahead of time.
 

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why Would you get a E6600 When u can get a E6750 at teh same price?
DDR2 800 and 1066 Has no significant difference
 

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See now I don't know if I should go off your word or not because you are suggesting I get a processor that probably will not be nearly as good of an overclocker. It has a FSB of 1333 compared to 1066. It will be more difficult to overclock that chip compared to the E6600. Please people with more expierience overclocking help me here thanks.
 
Let's see. Buy a lesser CPU, so you can overclock it to the speed of a 6750, or perhaps a little higher the stock speed of the 6750.
Or buy the faster processor for same money, and not overclock, or overclock only slightly to beat your e6600 overclock.
The e6750 I would think is the way to go.
 

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This is the most recent review on newegg for the e6600,

Buy this Processor
Reviewed By: Jinx on 8/16/2007 Tech Level: high - Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
Pros: Everything.... Overclocks better then any AMD processor I have ever seen, and thats saying alot. Don't believe the hype, the AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Can't hold it's own to this thing, can EASILY go to 3.4-3.6 on STOCK HEATSINK. Runs anything you through at it, and in games/ most programs will outperform a Q6600. If you want a gaming processor, go with this. If you want to do High Def Video Rendering, go with the Q6600. For everything else.... this thing is more then enough.
Cons: Nothing. Some people are having problems with the stock heatsink... I think they don't know what they are doing. Don't be lazy.... take your mobo out and install the processor, and it will install just fine. If you're really that worried about it, then order some Arctic Silver 5 for a few dollars, wipe the old paste off, and apply new.
Other Thoughts: E6600 @ 3.6 with stock heatsink running at 40 degrees celcius on load.... nothing else needs to be said.


This is what I seen for the best review on the e6750 on the same site newegg. I couldn't find a beter review then this one that was recent.


Pros: This sucker FLIES! Overclocked from 2.66 to 3.4 easily at 42C idle with an AC7. It can easily go higher but my memory would not have it.

Cons: The only real con would be the locked 8 multiplier, but that really doesn't matter as I'll explain below.

Other Thoughts: To the guy who makes the arguements on the e6700 vs. e6750 and the 10 multiplier vs. the 8. Yes, the multiplier is lower, but the frequency is the same. This does not deliver any less performance than the E6700 just check reviews on various websites. This does however increase the FSB which in turn increases memory bandwidth. Pair this up with some low latency memory and you have one wicked machine. Due to my DDR2800 I was not able to get the FSB past 425 (stock 333) effectively making it 1700MHz FSB (quad pumped) So yes, this chip is just as fast as the E6700, and possibly faster if overclocked far enough, which I can tell you would easily hit 3.6-3.8 on Air.

Notice that he says that his memory wont go fast enough to get higher. I don't want that to happen to me. I think that getting me some corsair ddr2800 and the e6600 is the best option considering over clocking from what I have seen.

 

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Here is another Review on newegg I stumbled across pertaining to the e6750 you say I should get,,


Pros: Handles data like no tomorrow. Was actually going to wait till I did some more stress tests to post a review, but felt what I had in the Con area was worth getting out there. It may help others make a more informed decision.

Cons: Below is a chart of locked multipliers for clock speeds of various processors: e6300 266MHz x7= 1.86GHz e6400 266MHz x8= 2.13GHz e6600 266MHz x9= 2.40GHz e6700 266MHz x10= 2.66GHz x6800 266MHz x11= 2.93GHz THIS E6750 IS LOCKED AT x8! 2.66GHz is obtained by 333.33 MHz x8! THIS has the SAME multiplier as the E6400!! The increased FSB of 333mhz x8 is how the E6750 gets to 2.66Ghz. There is a post of this CPU with a low rating that compares it to E6420, both OC at 3200mhz and claims the E6420 BEATS the E6750. Not surprised with what I know now. IMHO this product should have been an E6450 type label, its more accurate to its capability, than comparing it to an E6700 which has the x10 multiplier. I repeat, the difference between E6700 and E6750 is a LOWER (locked) MULTIPLIER and a faster base speed from 266 to 333. But I guess I got what I paid for, the E6750 is a lot LESS expensive than E6700. I know now its because its basically an E6420, which does have a VERY compa

Other Thoughts: Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with this processor, hence my high rating. And I only plan on a moderate OC, so this processor is definitely going to work for me. But I get the feeling I'd be happy with another version of this processor that has a lower initial FSB and a higher multiplier. I'd prefer the CPU run faster more than increasing the FSB so much. E6600 is what I think I should have gotten, and ironically what I was originally going to get... Considering the price I paid was so close the the E6600 when I initially got it... its a bit cheaper now, and much closer in price to the E6420... Oh well. Now YOU know. Love Newegg. Did a complete build, all parts delivered in great shape, no complaints whatsoever on Newegg.



Geez he should have got the e6600 who knew?
 

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This thread has gotten a hundred and eighteen views and only two people have responded. I know there are people out there in this forum that have true overclocking knowledge come on.
 

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E6750 has better value IMO. I have mine at 3.2ghz with 1:1 ratio with the ddr2-800 ram. I could easily go higher. At load it runs about 37c. You'll have to put a bit more overclock into the e6600 just to get it to where the e6750 gets to no problem. Either one isn't a bad choice.

And seriously..if you ever base all your choice off of newegg reviews, you're making a big mistake. Some of the people that post reviews on there have NO idea what they're saying, and sometimes the info is just completely idiotic.
 
Buy the E6600 then?

But, think about this for instance.
Machine 1: 200mhz FSB x 10 =2000mhz.
Machine 2: 250mhz FSB x 8 =2000mhz.
The second machine is significantly faster.

If you did this overclock on the 2 machines.
Machine 1: 230mhz FSB x 10 =2,300mhz
Machine 2: 265mhz FSB x 8 =2,120mhz

The second machine will still be faster. Even though you only theoretically overclocked it half as much, and the CPU it'self is running slower.



 

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jitpublisher Is right.
Even If the E6750 Doesnt OC as High as an E6600.
The E6750 will be still faster as its FSB is Way Higher Comparing it to the E6600

E6600 = 296 x 9 = 2.67ghz
E6750 = 333 x 8 = 2.67ghz

OC E6600 = 378 x 9 = 3.6ghz
OC E6750 = 425 x 8 = 3.6ghz

Lower Multiplier more headroom for OC
Just look at Toms Hardware's own Article! E6750 @ FSB520 x 8 = 4.16ghz

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/08/01/taking_the_e6750_beyond_4ghz/page6.html
And They Were using Your new Mobo as well P5k Premium
 

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The E6750's or any xx50 series have the new G0 stepping replacing the old B2 stepping. What does this mean, it mean that the Exx50 series are going to be better overclockers. I got lucky with my E6600 @ 3.7GHz and have heard of the unlucky that can't get theirs any higher than 3.2GHz. You have a better chance of a big OC with the E6750/xx50 series.
 

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The E6750 is a better OC and better chip.

Please don't ever quote NEWEGG User reviews.
You do realize that THG and many other review sites have reviewed these chips and done real analysis.

 

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I tried to google it and couldn't find anything but, what I did happen to run across which is why I asked because, what I did find was that all the people that were overclocking them that I could find, were not getting that good of results. I appreciate everyone jumping on this like they did though ty. I feel better now that more people have agreed with what they kept telling me in the begining. Should I get the ddr2 1066 though because that will be pushing ddr2 800 wont it?
 

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Getting 1066 RAM is a good idea if you overclocking past 400FSB, anything after 400 your overclocking the RAM(DDR2 800). At 400FSB your RAM is running 1:1 with the FSB