What to upgrade?

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So to start off here is our rig:

OS: Win 7 ULTI 64 bit
MB: M5A97 LE r2.0
CPU: FX6300 (OC'd to 4.4 ghz stable)
RAM: 16 GB (4x4) Corsair Vengeance D3 PC-1600 9-9-9-24
GPU: XFX Radeon R9 270X 4GB
HDD: ADATA SP900 128 GB SSD
PSU: Corsair CX750M

Asking this question mainly for Skyrim as have found that with mods, Skyrim is still a very demanding game.

So without any mods can play with all settings maxed and obtain something like 50-60 FPS (this seems very low considering the specs of the system and how others on their test scores get 120+ easily on a similar rig), modded as it is now with about 25 or so 2k texture mods and ENB the FPS drops down to ~30 at highest and 2 at lowest. Settings have also been dropped from 1920*1080 to 1680*1050, AA from 16x to 8x, etc

Been monitoring the game on process explorer and AMD resource monitor to see where the resource bottleneck is and so far, cannot see anything of interest. HDD seems to be a bottleneck during loading as at times loading can take anywhere from 20 seconds to a minute and is the cause of major stuttering up to 2 minutes after loading. As far as other resources go however, don't see what's going on. The game never uses more than 3-4 cores, and even those 3-4 cores are never maxed - the usage is around 50% on each at peak load. The GPU is fully used up at times when entering more texture heavy areas for roughly 20-30 seconds before usage drops down to below 50%. There are times however where the GPU caps out for minutes on end without any apparent reason as to why.

In case this might be asked, the rig runs rather cool, about 28 degrees Celsius on idle and 52 on P95 blend after 24 hours, so it's unlikely to be overheating either.

Have about 500 bucks in the budget, was thinking maybe to get a 290x/970gtx. Another option that's possible would be to swap out the processor/MB for an i7 4790k but again not sure where the problem is currently. Which would see a larger performance boost?



Thank you for any answers anyone may be able to provide.

Cheers,

Z
 
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I would say upgrade both since you have the funds for it. Get 8350 for performance on the cpu end and get r9 390 8 gb on the graphics end. I7 is a monster overkill for an other game like skyrim.

AMD FD8350FRHKBOX FX-8350 FX-Series 8-Core Black Edition Processor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YUF6/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_0c0Yvb4D9TNNH

Sapphire Radeon NITRO R9 390 8GB GDDR5 DVI-D / HDMI / TRIPLE DP Tri-X OC Version (UEFI) PCI-E Graphics Card 11244-00-20G https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZGL8CYY/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_wg0Yvb0J00HBP
I would say upgrade both since you have the funds for it. Get 8350 for performance on the cpu end and get r9 390 8 gb on the graphics end. I7 is a monster overkill for an other game like skyrim.

AMD FD8350FRHKBOX FX-8350 FX-Series 8-Core Black Edition Processor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YUF6/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_0c0Yvb4D9TNNH

Sapphire Radeon NITRO R9 390 8GB GDDR5 DVI-D / HDMI / TRIPLE DP Tri-X OC Version (UEFI) PCI-E Graphics Card 11244-00-20G https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZGL8CYY/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_wg0Yvb0J00HBP
 
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Hmm would 750W be able to handle that? The CS isn't the best series after all.

AMD is quite 'power hungry' on everything these days compared to their competitors.

The 390 seems future proof after doing some research on it, although the lack of full DX12 support does raise an eyebrow or two as to what AMD is thinking. 8 GB of VRAM seems... strange though as most titles struggle to max even 4GB and frankly, the chip on the 390 isn't strong enough to stand up to games in the future that would chew up more than 4GB (marketing maybe?), then again probably won't be migrating past 1080/1440p anytime soon anyways.
 
Hmm would 750W be able to handle that? The CS isn't the best series after all.

AMD is quite 'power hungry' on everything these days compared to their competitors.

The 390 seems future proof after doing some research on it, although the lack of full DX12 support does raise an eyebrow or two as to what AMD is thinking. 8 GB of VRAM seems... strange though as most titles struggle to max even 4GB and frankly, the chip on the 390 isn't strong enough to stand up to games in the future that would chew up more than 4GB (marketing maybe?), then again probably won't be migrating past 1080/1440p anytime soon anyways.

Yes, 750w will be more than enough. You rig would top out around 550-600 even with extreme overclocks. As for the vram, certain games can already chew more than 4 gb or vram like gta 5 and shadow of mordor. The 8 gb of vram should come in handy in skyrim where mods can really drive the vram high. AMD wanted to keeping selling the Hawaii architecture which meant no dx 12 support. Right now, there no dx 12 titles and by the time that changes this card would be relatively average performing.

 

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Alright thanks for the suggestions.

Will go for the R9, the 8350 can wait a bit as have a 4.4 OC'd 6300 so far, if that bottlenecks then will have to look at the 8350.

Sapphire, Gigabyte, Asus or MSI?