What to upgrade

[jake___buff]

just wondering what parts I should look into upgrading or adding next I have plenty of room in the case and I'm just trying to get a better experience for games, at the moment I have

-Intel core i7 4970
-GeForce msi gtx 770
- asrock fatality h97 performance
-16 gb (2x8) corsair vengeance LPX
- 2 tb seagate barracuda
- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD
-650w power supply


happy to spend around $700
thinking of getting a better monitor soon maybe 144hz what would I need to upgrade to able to get the most out of that swell
thanks

 

[Greeko85]

Well your system is still more than capable to run modern games at reasonably high settings so unless you are after a whole system overhaul I'd suggest upgrading your gpu to something like a 1060 or even a 1070

 

[LordVile]

just wondering what parts I should look into upgrading or adding next I have plenty of room in the case and I'm just trying to get a better experience for games, at the moment I have

-Intel core i7 4970
-GeForce msi gtx 770
- asrock fatality h97 performance
-16 gb (2x8) corsair vengeance LPX
- 2 tb seagate barracuda
- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD
-650w power supply


happy to spend around $700
thinking of getting a better monitor soon maybe 144hz what would I need to upgrade to able to get the most out of that swell
thanks

GPU is the standout here but i'd wait for prices to drop back into reality. They're better than the start of the year but still aren't quite sane yet. Also why not look a peripherals? keyboard, mouse and headphones might be good investments?

 

[Shektron]

Nothing wrong with the system yet, unless you want to play at 144 Hz. If that is the case, you'll need to upgrade the GPU to at least a GTX 1070, and either buy the i7 4790K, with a good cooler, or just completely upgrade to the i7 8700K with Z370 motherboard and DDR4 RAM. For the second upgrade, $700 won't be enough. So, I'd say buy the i7 4790K, a good cooler, the GTX 1070, and a 144 Hz monitor. You'll still have to really squeeze everything in, but maybe you could increase your budget by selling the 4790 and the GTX 770.

I'd say just upgrade the peripherals, let the monitor be.

 

[Caio Khauam]

The cpu upgrade to 4790k and cooler its not necessary if you are not overclocking it, because on the same speed they are basically the same. So no need to change it unless you really wanna push it to the limit but I would say take care while doing it to not burn anything cause overclock can fry a computer computer with overheating but other than that, yeah the GPU upgrade will increase your fps by a lot, just get vídeos comparisons from 770 to 1070, and if that budge is only the for GPU, you can even buy a 1080, though I think it's overkill by now it could future proof you a little if you are keeping the GPU for a time.

 

[LordVile]

Nothing wrong with the system yet, unless you want to play at 144 Hz. If that is the case, you'll need to upgrade the GPU to at least a GTX 1070, and either buy the i7 4790K, with a good cooler, or just completely upgrade to the i7 8700K with Z370 motherboard and DDR4 RAM. For the second upgrade, $700 won't be enough. So, I'd say buy the i7 4790K, a good cooler, the GTX 1070, and a 144 Hz monitor. You'll still have to really squeeze everything in, but maybe you could increase your budget by selling the 4790 and the GTX 770.

I'd say just upgrade the peripherals, let the monitor be.

There isn't much difference between i7s unless it's the 8700K. the 2600K does a good job hanging with the 7700K

 

[Caio Khauam]

That's why I said if he don't plan on overclocking it there is no need for that update. The only reason he recommended a K version was for the overclock since his version "can't" do it.

 

[Shektron]

Nothing wrong with the system yet, unless you want to play at 144 Hz. If that is the case, you'll need to upgrade the GPU to at least a GTX 1070, and either buy the i7 4790K, with a good cooler, or just completely upgrade to the i7 8700K with Z370 motherboard and DDR4 RAM. For the second upgrade, $700 won't be enough. So, I'd say buy the i7 4790K, a good cooler, the GTX 1070, and a 144 Hz monitor. You'll still have to really squeeze everything in, but maybe you could increase your budget by selling the 4790 and the GTX 770.

I'd say just upgrade the peripherals, let the monitor be.

There isn't much difference between i7s unless it's the 8700K. the 2600K does a good job hanging with the 7700K

Uh, so? You'll need to change the motherboard for the 2600K anyway, so why go to an older platform instead of a newer platform? Not sure I'm getting your point here...

 

[LordVile]

That's why I said if he don't plan on overclocking it there is no need for that update. The only reason he recommended a K version was for the overclock since his version "can't" do it.

Yup, best thing to do now for 144Hz would be to buy a RX 580 8GB for about 300-350 or a used Fury and a freesync 144Hz monitor for 200 because a 1070 goes for around 500 minimum and a Gsync monitor is 300.

 

[Shektron]

That's why I said if he don't plan on overclocking it there is no need for that update. The only reason he recommended a K version was for the overclock since his version "can't" do it.

I recommended it because you need every drop of clock speed you can get for 144 Hz gaming. The 4790 might become a bottleneck due to its lower clock speed, at 144 Hz. Hence, an overclockable processor is recommended for 144 Hz gaming, so that the CPU does not bottleneck the GPU.

 

[LordVile]

Nothing wrong with the system yet, unless you want to play at 144 Hz. If that is the case, you'll need to upgrade the GPU to at least a GTX 1070, and either buy the i7 4790K, with a good cooler, or just completely upgrade to the i7 8700K with Z370 motherboard and DDR4 RAM. For the second upgrade, $700 won't be enough. So, I'd say buy the i7 4790K, a good cooler, the GTX 1070, and a 144 Hz monitor. You'll still have to really squeeze everything in, but maybe you could increase your budget by selling the 4790 and the GTX 770.

I'd say just upgrade the peripherals, let the monitor be.

There isn't much difference between i7s unless it's the 8700K. the 2600K does a good job hanging with the 7700K

Uh, so? You'll need to change the motherboard for the 2600K anyway, so why go to an older platform instead of a newer platform? Not sure I'm getting your point here...

You'venisread. He has a 4th gen i7 now but from 2nd to 7th there isn't a massive leap so there's no point upgrading the CPU

 

[LordVile]

That's why I said if he don't plan on overclocking it there is no need for that update. The only reason he recommended a K version was for the overclock since his version "can't" do it.

I recommended it because you need every drop of clock speed you can get for 144 Hz gaming. The 4790 might become a bottleneck due to its lower clock speed, at 144 Hz. Hence, an overclockable processor is recommended for 144 Hz gaming, so that the CPU does not bottleneck the GPU.

It's still a solid i7 with good clock speed. at 1080p the GPU will be the bottleneck at pretty much any game

 

[Shektron]

Nothing wrong with the system yet, unless you want to play at 144 Hz. If that is the case, you'll need to upgrade the GPU to at least a GTX 1070, and either buy the i7 4790K, with a good cooler, or just completely upgrade to the i7 8700K with Z370 motherboard and DDR4 RAM. For the second upgrade, $700 won't be enough. So, I'd say buy the i7 4790K, a good cooler, the GTX 1070, and a 144 Hz monitor. You'll still have to really squeeze everything in, but maybe you could increase your budget by selling the 4790 and the GTX 770.

I'd say just upgrade the peripherals, let the monitor be.

There isn't much difference between i7s unless it's the 8700K. the 2600K does a good job hanging with the 7700K

Uh, so? You'll need to change the motherboard for the 2600K anyway, so why go to an older platform instead of a newer platform? Not sure I'm getting your point here...

You'venisread. He has a 4th gen i7 now but from 2nd to 7th there isn't a massive leap so there's no point upgrading the CPU

If you'd notice, I actually haven't asked him to switch generations - his current processor is 4th gen, and I'm asking him to buy another 4th gen processor, just one that is overclockable. Of course, one mistake I have indeed made is that I failed to notice that his motherboard doesn't support overclocking, so if buying an overclockable CPU he will need to upgrade the motherboard to overclock the chip anyway.

So, correction - either stick with your current system and just upgrade the GPU, or just make the leap to the 8th generation processors, don't bother with any other upgrades.

 

[LordVile]

Nothing wrong with the system yet, unless you want to play at 144 Hz. If that is the case, you'll need to upgrade the GPU to at least a GTX 1070, and either buy the i7 4790K, with a good cooler, or just completely upgrade to the i7 8700K with Z370 motherboard and DDR4 RAM. For the second upgrade, $700 won't be enough. So, I'd say buy the i7 4790K, a good cooler, the GTX 1070, and a 144 Hz monitor. You'll still have to really squeeze everything in, but maybe you could increase your budget by selling the 4790 and the GTX 770.

I'd say just upgrade the peripherals, let the monitor be.

There isn't much difference between i7s unless it's the 8700K. the 2600K does a good job hanging with the 7700K

Uh, so? You'll need to change the motherboard for the 2600K anyway, so why go to an older platform instead of a newer platform? Not sure I'm getting your point here...

You'venisread. He has a 4th gen i7 now but from 2nd to 7th there isn't a massive leap so there's no point upgrading the CPU

If you'd notice, I actually haven't asked him to switch generations - his current processor is 4th gen, and I'm asking him to buy another 4th gen processor, just one that is overclockable. Of course, one mistake I have indeed made is that I failed to notice that his motherboard doesn't support overclocking, so if buying an overclockable CPU he will need to upgrade the motherboard to overclock the chip anyway.

So, correction - either stick with your current system and just upgrade the GPU, or just make the leap to the 8th generation processors, don't bother with any other upgrades.

I'm just saying there's hardly any difference even when OC'd. You'd see what single digit improvements in most cases? K CPU's are worth the initial investment over non K because that extra 5-10 FPS might make a difference when you're due to upgrade but they're not worth buying to replace a non-k chip.