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Yeah its a killer for its price.One of the most buyed and well reviewed cpus in 2019/2020.plus its compatible with almost every new gpu out there
So I put the build together on pcpartpicker and everything is compatible only requiring 304w. I saw on another post that somebody said to multiply that by two and and add 50-100 w extra to determine the PSU you need and to be safe. Going by that philosophy a 750w PSU should do me just fine while still giving me a bit of room to upgrade the GPU in the near future.
 
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So I put the build together on pcpartpicker and everything is compatible only requiring 304w. I saw on another post that somebody said to multiply that by two and and add 50-100 w extra to determine the PSU you need and to be safe. Going by that philosophy a 750w PSU should do me just fine while still giving me a bit of room to upgrade the GPU in the near future.
That is correct.304W is minimum you need to turn on the system.You do something on google and thata requires more wattage.You game,you are using duoble the recommended wattage so yeah a 750W psu would be perfect.I recommend cx750:https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/CX-SERIES/p/CP-9020015-NA
 
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I'm in Ireland and hoping to spend between 500-600 euro.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€207.58 @ Custompc)
Motherboard: MSI X470 GAMING PLUS MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (€140.44 @ Custompc)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€88.34 @ Custompc)
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case (€89.85 @ Komplett)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Core GC 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€87.85 @ Komplett)
Total: €614.06

Swap out the case for anything that suits your fancy or is cheaper.
Unless you plan on running a rtx 2080ti and a 3950x or multiple gpu's, no need to go for high wattage psu's, it's a waste of money. Good quality psu's are generally efficient 20-80% of load within 1-2%, so the old 50% is most efficient argument doesn't really matter.

The b450 max board is only €5 cheaper at present, so the x470 would be the better value imo.

For gpu's, it depends on your resolution and refresh rate(Hz) of your monitor.
 

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I aboslutelly agree with maxamillionfeettall. X470 will give you better options for future upgrades and its great for its price.Also if you are upping the board chipset,why not go with 3600Mhz ram speed.It will only give you more performance and who doesnt want that,and it should nt be more than 20$.The PSU maxamillionfeettall mentioned is absolutely more than enough,unless you are planning to go on a rtx and ryzen 9 platform which i wouldnt recommend on this board if you want great stability.High-end components require high-end mobo,and lets be honest this is a new-budget board,not exactly a high-end one.

Edit:Also i would recommend a aftermarket cooler since there have been many cooling reports on that stock R5 3600 cooler.I would recommend this: Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B.

Believe it or not i use it on my i7-3770 and the cpu is more cold than hot and it doesnt make any noticable noise
 
The cheapest 3600Mhz kit at present is €40 more then a 3200 kit, considering the 1-2% benefit, it's not viable.

The vrms are adequate for a ryzen 9, it will just need increased airflow to compensate for the extra heat output, but the op has a budget of 600, so it doesn't really matter.
 

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The cheapest 3600Mhz kit at present is €40 more then a 3200 kit, considering the 1-2% benefit, it's not viable.

The vrms are adequate for a ryzen 9, it will just need increased airflow to compensate for the extra heat output, but the op has a budget of 600, so it doesn't really matter.
CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 2X8GB:https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC4-28800-Desktop-Memory/dp/B07RM39V5F

I mean for 80$ its perfect.Plus if he switches to ryzen 7 he would need to change his ram speed,since when going to r7 i recommend going to the 3600mhz
 

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Also, regarding the motherboard. I'm not sure I'll be able to pay that much so would you know of a good option somewhere around the 100-150 dollar price range? Sorry for the hassle.
Here's an option you could take if you want, it's within your budget and a pretty nice board for gaming:
https://www.amazon.com/TUF-B450-Plus-Gaming-Motherboard-Ryzen/dp/B07FMVJT1H/ref=pd_di_sccai_5/138-3230074-6218765?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07FMVJT1H&pd_rd_r=40298694-3feb-4d6e-b1d6-6262829c27fc&pd_rd_w=14pIM&pd_rd_wg=BBMb7&pf_rd_p=61ce50cf-2379-4458-9044-fa8b402c702d&pf_rd_r=GDR1J2HG2ZC17R1XEPQ5&psc=1&refRID=GDR1J2HG2ZC17R1XEPQ5
 
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I think the B450 Tomahawk Max is a good choice. It would be compatible with the Ryzen 7 chip when I upgrade in the future. on Amazon.co.uk there is about a 12-15 euro difference between the 3200 and 3600 Corsair vengeance RAM. Considering the B450 supports up to 4133(OC)Mhz I should be fine with upgrading in the future. I could stick with the 3200 or sell it on and upgrade to 3600. With that in mind does the performance difference between the 3200 and 3600 justify the price?

As for cooling I have already ordered the Arctic 34 eSports DUO as my CPU cooler.

So far my build is looking like this:

Ryzen 5 3600
MSI B450 Tomahawk Max
Corsair Vengeance 16 GB (2x8 GB) DDR4 3200 Mhz
Gtx 1050ti 4 GB (The GPU will be upgraded towards the end of the year)
x2 WD Blue 1 TB HDD
SanDisk SSD Plus 240 GB 530 mb/s
Corsair CX series 750 W
All put into a Corsair Carbride SPEC-05

What do you think?
 
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I will attempt to sell most of my parts from the current build for whatever their value is at the time. If I do that I can probably take €100 off the new rigs price.
 
The asus b450-f isn't as good as the tomahawk. It'll work if it has the updated bios, but otherwise the vrm runs on the hotter side so don't overclock with it.

The b450-f has a 16mb(tomahawk max has 32mb) bios chip, so it is unknown whether or not it'll have enough space to work with next gen ryzen.
 
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So the last couple days I've been doing a little more research and I came to a decision to change a few things about the build I put up on Sunday.

This how the final build will look like + (upgrades)

Ryzen 5 3600 (Will probably upgrade to a Ryzen 7)
MSI B450 Tomahawk Max
Corsair Vengeance 16GB 2x8GB DDR4 3600 Mhz (Another 16 GB kit will be added later)
Gigabyte Gtx 1050Ti 4GB (Will be upgraded to either a 1660 or 2060)
x2 WD 1TB Hard Drives (Will add a 1TB SSD for all my games which will replace one of the HDDs)
Sabrent 256GB M.2 NVMe SSD
Seasonic Core Gold GM 650W
The Case - NZXT H510


Total Cost (not including HDDs and GPU which are recycled)

- €678,03
 
Looks good. If you're gonna keep waiting for a gpu, nvidia may be releasing their next gen within the next few months, though that wont include the mid-range parts.

When you do upgrade, the 1660 super is usually only a little more then the 1660 but performs nearly the same as a 1660ti, so very worth the extra 20.
 
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