What would be a better upgrade?

[petter_reitan]

I made my 2nd pc a while back, and are now looking to make some upgrades to it.
It's an AMD build, but i'm considering swapping the motherboard and changing to a intel cpu.

Heres the current specs:

MB: ASUS 970 Pro Gaming/Aura, Socket-AM3+ //considering changing these to a intel 1151, i5 or i7

RAM: HyperX Fury DDR3 1866MHz 16GB
1866MHz (PC3-14900) DDR3 CL10

CPU: AMD FX-8350 Black Edition
Socket-AM3+, 8-Core 4.0GHz, 16MB, 125W, 32nm, watercooled hydro h100i

GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Strix Gaming
PCI-Express 3.0, GDDR5, ROG, OC-version, Pascal //feels like the cpu is bottlenecking the gpu..

PSU: Corsair CX750M, 750W PSU


I'm thinking around 600$ of upgrades should be enough for now..
What do you recommend, and why?

 

[Darkbreeze]

Are you in the US? If so, this is the best Intel upgrade. Makes no sense going with anything that isn't Coffee Lake at this point. Everything else cannot compete in the price vs performance, at least for Intel, anymore.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Asus - TUF Z370 Pro Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $479.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-01 05:30 EST-0500


But you can do an AMD system and get reasonably similar performance, plus double the threads (So probably better performance in anything highly optimized for threaded processes) for a bit less. AND, you can push the performance of the AMD build even further as this should fairly easily take a 4Ghz overclock. Either system will pretty much crush that FX hardware.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($93.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $443.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-01 05:35 EST-0500

 

[helpstar]

what kind of work will you run on this system? Just games or other things as well?

z370 board
i7-8700k
16GB DDR4-3000 -> about 750$

with I5 8600k -> about 625$

with I5 and DDR4 2666 -> 600$

 

[petter_reitan]

Im considering this build:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
Socket-AM4, 8-Core, 16-Thread, 3.6/4.0GHz, 95W //overclocking it to 4-4,2GHz

MB: MSI X370 Krait Gaming, Socket-AM4
and of course with new 16gbs DDR4 ram..

Then eventually upgrading to a 1080 after a year or two?
Went a but over the budget, but might be worth it ey?

It will be used for mostly gaming, rendering and daily stuff.. 20tabs of youtube and facebook open in chrome, two-three games open in the background

 

[Darkbreeze]

Same hardware, under budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - X370 KRAIT GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($133.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $598.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-01 06:08 EST-0500


I will say this though, unless you use this system for a lot more than just gaming, like recording, streaming or running a variety of other applications, that either use a lot of threads or if you do any of those thing simultaneously while gaming, then the 1600x, which uses the exact same cores and just has two less of them but still has 6 cores 12 threads, would be every bit as good. The only real differences between the two are the bump in clock speed (Which you can get for free by simply overclocking the 1600x since you already have a good liquid cooler) and the extra two cores/four threads, because everything else including the amount of level 3 cache are exactly the same.

 

[petter_reitan]

After doing some research, the Ryzen 7 1700x appears to be better at gaming than the 1800x? thoughts?
And when it comes to memory, is really the 3200 that much better than the cheaper 2,4s? the pricedifference is huge!

And last but not least, what graphic card would be good ideal to this build?
the 1060 isnt amazing, is it worth upgrading to a 1070? or spend the extra money and go straight for a 1080Ti?
thoughts?

 

[Darkbreeze]

Choice of card depends on resolution. For 1080p the GTX 1060 is suitable for very high settings in the majority of titles. If yours seems to lack performance it's probably largely due to your CPU. Some titles MIGHT need the sliders moved to the left on a few things.

GTX 1070 will handle ALL titles at 1080p with ALL sliders to the right, and most titles at 1440p the same. For those titles where it can't handle the highest of settings, the GTX 1080 can, and can handle a good many 4k titles with a few reductions. The 1080ti, clearly, is as good as it gets so if this card can't handle it, stop trying to game at 4k on three monitors. JK.

For the price, the GTX 1060 IS amazing, considering that last gen you pretty much had to buy a 980 for over four hundred dollars to do what that card does now at 1080p. I am of course NOT factoring in the overbloated pricing right now due to the bitcoin stupidity, er, fiasco.

Actually, the Ryzen 1700 is the sweet spot, because as I said, all these Ryzen CPUs have the EXACT same cores. The only real difference on ANY of these Ryzen CPUs is how many cores and what clock speed they are set at. Most have reported being able to clock 1700 chips to 1700x or 1800x speeds in some cases. I'd never buy anything over the Ryzen 7 1700 because it seems as though there really is no binning going on with these. They are mostly all able to overclock to similar settings as the higher end skus. Not all, but most. Probably also depends on the board you get too.


It also seems that a few people here and there have been getting an easter egg in the form of an extra two cores for free on some of the 1600 and 1600x CPUs.