what's happening with the lga 2011 socket?

[KeiserSozai]

I am currently upgrading an editing system with a z68 series motherboard. Seems the editing hobby got a whole lot more profitable for me than I thought it would. I was looking at upgrading to a mobo that supported LGA 2011 cpus so I could go with a Xeon if business got serious. But after a bit of digging around it seems to me that the powers that be dont seem interested in bringing the 2011 socket into the next generation cpus and mobos. Talk about Skylake and possible successors dont mention LGA2011. Correct me if I'm wrong on this. If this is the case how do i go forward with this? Which socket is the right one for me. I started off doing a few transcodes onto dvd for friends. Got involved with a youtube channel. Progressed onto a music video and a few business multimedia projects. Now I am, after a lot of messing around making mistakes getting referrals from companies who want to hire me for advertising on everything from vimeo and youtube to television. And nobody has cottoned on to how clueless I am with computers.

I have aspirations of turning a script for a movie into reality in the next 6 months or so as well, so I'd like to be able to keep this build for that as well.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

The enthusiast platforms tend to be a generation or so behind the desktop platforms - I imagine Intel is using desktops to bug-test for the server chips.

LGA2011 was replaced with LGA2011-3 when Haswell-E arrived. Skylake-E should come out Q3 2016 according to this roadmap, I'm assuming on a new socket.

I'm assuming you've already got a Sandy/Ivy LGA1155 i7, and it's not fast enough?

 

[Phil Indeblanc]

Im in a similar situation, but more so with still images, and both CS6-Photoshop, C1, and Lightroom make use of more than even 8 cores.

So I got the 5920K with Corsair LPX 3000 DDR4 32gb for now, and 3 SSD's (OS, Pagefile, Scratchdisk), and this should be great, BUT!!!

Can't decide on a Mobo! My top picks both have some issues I read about with multiple users.... (Asus X99a-v3.1 and the MSI X99S SliPlus)

I too can use some much appreciated guidance!

 

[KeiserSozai]

I'm on a 2600 sandy bridge at the moment. In dire need of an upgrade. I am looking at:

ASUS Z10PE-D8 WS Intel LGA2011-3 EEB WS
2 x Xeon E5 2640

Some techies online have said, the LGA socket on this board actually has 2017 pins? Is this true? If so is there LGA2017 chips out soon?

I've looked for info on skylake and its successors and no one mentions LGA2011 or 2017. I've got this all wrong, I'm sure of it.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Ignore pin count and stuff like that.

There are reasonably available roadmaps that show what Intel plans to release in the near future.

I can't find exactly what socket Skylake-E is going to be on (almost certainly a new one; don't know name), but Broadwell-E (if it gets released; the dates are looking awfully close together) should still be on LGA2011-3.

Ignore LGA2011; it's not compatible in either direction with LGA-2011-3, and is obsolete.

 

[KeiserSozai]

I was focussing on the LGA2011 because the high end dual cpu boards seem to have nothing but. I want to go xeon because this thing won't be getting much down time if I can help it. It'll be on 24/5. So I pretty much need to go workstation all over this sucker.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

No, those will still be LGA2011-3.

You cannot fit a Haswell-E (or Haswell-EP, which is the Xeon E5 v3 chips) in an LGA2011 socket.

 

[KeiserSozai]

Yah I keep forgetting the -3 suffix. So when I mentioned LGA2011 for your own sanity I mean the LGA 2011-3.

 

[Non-Euclidean]

If you are building a Xeon workstation, wait. There are new boards coming out for Xeon v5 chips soon, based on either the C232 or C236 chipset.

As it is, none of the v5 Xeons are certified for any existing loaded 2011-v3 boards yet. I was looking at these a month ago. I wanted M2 ultra and couldn't find it for a v5 when I checked manufacturers CPU certifications.

These new boards have a richer feature set than the current workstation boards, they are more enthusiast oriented.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Those are for the Skylake-based desktop chips, which max out at four cores.

 

[Non-Euclidean]

C236, maybe. My bad. You are dead wrong on C232. That is for Haswell Xeon E3v5. E3v5 Xeons are exclusive to the C232 chipset.

Go to ASRock site, select news, go to 12/28/15 article. Sorry I can't paste the link, not sure how to do it my iPad.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Yes, and the most cores you can get in a Xeon E3, whichever version, is four. They're a desktop Skylake chip with some minor changes to break compatibility with normal boards, and ECC etc. enabled. You also can't run them multi-CPU.

He wants Xeon E5, which is LGA2011/LGA2011-3, comes with 10+ cores, and can be run multi-CPU.

 

[Non-Euclidean]

Newegg lists Xeon E3v5 with 6, 8 and 10 cores, as Haswell/Haswell-EP

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Really? Here's Intel's list of Xeon E3 v5 chips, and I see lots of quad-core: http://ark.intel.com/products/family/88210/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-v5-Family#@All

You're looking at Xeon E5 v3, which is Haswell-EP in an LGA2011-3 package. C232 and C236 are Skylake.

 

[KeiserSozai]

So is skylake not going to utilize LGA2011-3 for any of its chips? Seems silly ASUS would bring out a new board just a couple of months ago with LGA201(7) if that were the case. Or are the workstation boards going to stick with Haswell EP for another generation or 2?

 

[Someone Somewhere]

I'd be very surprised if you could drop a Skylake-E chip in Asus's "OC Socket". New chipset needed, FIVR gone from the CPU, plus it's kinda irrelevant if you want to use 2 CPUs.

Or are the workstation boards going to stick with Haswell EP for another generation or 2?

Not sure what you mean by that. Haswell-EP is the generation. If you mean stick with LGA2011-3, then Broadwell-E/-EP will use the same socket, but I'm not sure if it's actually going to arrive - see here.

Skylake-E/-EP will definitely have a brand new socket.

 

[KeiserSozai]

About "haswell-EP sticking around another generation" I was kinda at a loss for words because I've been reading so much I saw chatter about broadwell being shelved before it was released. Got confused a little and kinda took it to mean haswell would stick around for longer than ?moores law? dictated.

Hmmmmph... if what you say and what I've read since is true I either have buy whats retailing now and hope i dont lose too much when i upgrade later this year or sit on what I have untill the latest n greatest comes out. Gawd waiting is gonna be difficult.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Broadwell for desktops was shelved - by the time they were ready to launch it, Skylake was already here. Broadwell did launch for laptops, and Broadwell-E will probably arrive.

Honestlty, I'd just go Haswell-EP. You're not going to gain much by waiting.

 

[KeiserSozai]

I think you're right Someone. Dont think I'll wait around. Whenever skylake-ep will be released, living in Australia, I'll probably have to wait up to another 6-12months for it to hit our shores. I got stuff to do.