What's stops OC?

mkn100

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Hi,

I overclocked my computer from 700mhz to 875 mhz. If I step up the bus speed one more step, my computer freezed. How do I know where the limitation is? Is it my CPU? Memory? Sound/Video Card???
Thanks!
 
I'm no expert, but I think it all depends on the motherboard, CPU, and memory. The thing is, you don't want to push it too far or you run the chance of burning out your processor. Give us some specs and I'm sure someone that knows more than I can help you.
 
Skip everything between 100 and 133. If you have average/good cooling go straight to 133FSB. That should run easily. Then start up from there.

When everything is set at 133, all components other than the cpu will be running in spec. Since you can get to 875 Mhz, (125 FSB right?) you are doing great. The odds are that your system will run happily at 1G plus.

Set it up to run 133FSB, if it doesn't boot, increase the core voltage a smidge and try again. Final count is unlikely to require more than 1.85V to get over 1G.

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peteb is right,

the reason is 100fsb cpu
=> 100 * 1/3 = 33 pci, 100 * 2/3 = 66 agp
when you o/c to 133fsb mobo changes pci and agp to this
=> 133 * 1/4 = 33 & 133 * 1/2 = 66 apg

@ 125fsb mobo still has 1/3pci, 2/3agp
=> 125 * 1/3 = 41 & 125 * 2/3 = 83
this is probably to much for pci and agp slots...

good luck



however, we all start at the end and finish at the begining
 
only correction I can think of is that the Asus boards I have flip to 1/4 divider at 120FSB, so 125FSB is actually underclocked mem/pci/agp, not overclocked. Don't have a cus2 so I cannot confirm this on that particular board, but it holds true for my others.

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very interesting indeed, my ABIT mobos are at 124/41, 127/42, 133/44 (133/33), 136/34, 140/35, and so it continues.

what chipset is on cus2?
is change over set by chipset or manuf.????




however, we all start at the end and finish at the begining
 
815 - I cannot confirm that this is the case for the cus2 - but I own cuv4x and a7v133 and they both flip at 120 to 1/4 divider.

Where's Crashman - he'll know as the god of 815s..

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Anyone who runs their 700 at less than 933 is asking for trouble. The CUSL2 jumps the multiplier down to 1/4 PCI 1/2 AGP at EXACTLY the 133MHz setting (which BTW is actually 133 + 1/3).

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Most likely you are having difficulaties with ALL your cards because you DID NOT GO FAR ENOUGH! AT 875MHz your PCI bus is running at 42MHz and your AGP at 84! Your PCI cards are DEFINATELY getting abused! Their is NO good choice between 100 and 133. You must go to 133! At 133 your memory timing will return to its faster settings, your AGP bus will return from 2x to 4x, your PCI cards will return to 33MHz, and your AGP bus will return to 66MHz. You will see an increadible increase in performance, stablity, and heat reduction.
Go into BIOS. increase your core voltage to 1.75v, increase your bus speed to 133/133 (unless your using PC100), and enjoy.

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AT 875MHz my PCI bus is running at 42MHz and my AGP at 84. Isn't that a good thing since I overclock them as well?

I tried to overlock my CPU to 133 mhz bus @ 1.75V , but it won't POST. What is the recommend max voltage I should apply to the CPU (before it's fried)?
 
you can go up to 1.85 and be safe your pushing it a 1.9 volts but you need good cooling for it

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Ok, this might not seem very helpful, but generally, if it doesn't work, you need to change something.

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Your memory is the most important thing and it's still running slower that 133. You do not get a significant performance increase from overclocking the PCI and it can cause instability. For long term use I recommend 1.90v or less for the PIII. There is a phenomena called "electron errosion" which causes all electical components to wear out. Even household wirering has a limmited lifespan, even if that lifespan is measured in 1000's of years. Increased voltage and heat accelerates the process, and the circuites of a procesor are very small and made of a simiconductive material, accelerating it more. So while I have not seen any hard figures on where to stop, I feel that 1.90v leaves plenty of room for error.

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Bad news! I try to run my P700 on 133 mhz bus, and boost the CPU voltage up to 1.95V, it still doesn't POST. Is there anything else I can do? I have a golden orb on my CPU and 2 fans at the back... Should I run my computer on 700 Mhz or should I overclock my bus speed to 125 mhz as I am using right now?
 
orb are in genral bad that might be you problem there i would find out what crash is using

he strongly recomends the volcano 2 for a good cheap heat sink

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The AGP could take 83MHz....... (depending on card)

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unless we have missed something it seems you may be a very unlucky sole who's 700 will not do it. It seems very infrequent that this would happen - but always possible.

If you increase the voltage to the chip, set it for 133 FSB and everything else is compatible for 133 (is your RAM CL2 or CL3 and what timing setting do you have it at?) there is usually no problem - it seems yours _may_ be a poor chip batch.

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I have 512M of RAM. Two 128M RAM sticks are generic RAM (PC133) and one 256M stick is Micron CAS2 (PC133). I get everything to default setting. My RAM timing is 3T.

I guess mine is a poor batch. Darn, should I buy 1G CPU???