[SOLVED] Whats the best upgrade from a Pentium G4400?

[Andrew_369]

I've recently wanted to upgrade my CPU from a Pentium G4400 as I keep on getting low frame rate and lag spikes during gaming(I know its my CPU because on task manager its on 100% usage). In my pc, I have a GTX1050, 8GB DDR4 Ram, 1 TB hard drive and Gigabyte H110M S2H.
should get a better Pentium (G4560) as its about 30% faster or cut the crap and get an i5? But keep in mind my motherboard is a H110M, so I can't access Intels new 8th gen but the bios is updated to 7th.
Thanks,

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

You're gonna have to give us the rest of your system specs. Otherwise, we'd be shooting in the dark.

 

[Andrew_369]

You're gonna have to give us the rest of your system specs. Otherwise, we'd be shooting in the dark.

Sorry about that

 

[PC Tailor]

Welcome to the forums my friend!

Full CPU support list is here: https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/GA-H110M-S2H-rev-10/support#support-cpu

Technically best for your MB is 7700K, but it won't really go well with a 1050.
Will you be upgrading GPU down the line?

 

[Andrew_369]

Welcome to the forums my friend!

Full CPU support list is here: https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/GA-H110M-S2H-rev-10/support#support-cpu

Technically best for your MB is 7700K, but it won't really go well with a 1050.
Will you be upgrading GPU down the line?

Maybe, but I'm probably gonna stick with this one as graphics cards are pretty expensive and I only do intermediate gaming (sea of theives, minecraft, etc).

 

[mdd1963]

As stated, best you can do is a 7700K (which will still be at near 100% usage on many games, although improved on gameplay with it's 8 threads and 1 GHz higher clockspeed) on that board, but at it's strangely inflated current $350 asking price, you could get an R5-3600, a B450 mainboard, and throw in but $25 more, and have 16 GB of DDR4 3200 MHz RAM...(8 GB of RAM is now increasingly a liability for WIn10 gaming; for many games, 8 GB is simply not enough)

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

Sorry about that

Oh, I see them now. I'd honestly recommend at least an i5-6500 or similar. Unless you want to get rid of your CPU and motherboard and buy an i3-8100.

OR

A Ryzen 3 1200 + B450 motherboard. Would be a lot cheaper.

 

[Karadjgne]

7700k is just fine. As is a 6700k, 7700, 6700. There's no real difference between an i5 and it's i7 counterpart other than hyperthreading and maybe a few Hz. It's still a quad core cpu at heart.

The cpu sets the fps limits, it pre-renders all the frames before shipping to the gpu. The gpu either lives upto that number, or not. Depending on resolution and details.

With the i7, there'll be significantly less lag in high thread games vs the i5, so higher potential fps with a 7700k vs a 7600k at same speeds.

You don't always have to try and maximize usage, but it's better to have higher potential than needed than lower potential and need it.

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

I get the feeling he doesn't want to fork out the money for the i7-7700K; and honestly, I wouldn't recommend it. You could get a Ryzen 5 3600 + B450 mobo for the cost of a used i7-7700K.

I think a Ryzen 3 1200 (or higher if you can afford) + a good B450 motherboard (MSI B450 Tomahawk for example) or a cheaper B450, would be a good investment and allow you to upgrade even further in the future. The Ryzen 3 should be fine and better than what you have paired with your GTX 1050.

 

[Andrew_369]

As stated, best you can do is a 7700K (which will still be at near 100% usage on many games, although improved on gameplay with it's 8 threads and 1 GHz higher clockspeed) on that board, but at it's strangely inflated current $350 asking price, you could get an R5-3600, a B450 mainboard, and throw in but $25 more, and have 16 GB of DDR4 3200 MHz RAM...(8 GB of RAM is now increasingly a liability for WIn10 gaming; for many games, 8 GB is simply not enough)

Good shout. if i was to completely take out my motherboard and change it with the B450, i'd probably go with a Ryzen 5 2600 as in the UK its £80 or $97 cheaper than a 3600. However I Don't really feel like going through the hassle of changing the PC motherboard. I really only want better performance out of my CPU. So do you think 7700k is the way to go if i dont want to change my pc or is an i5 at a better value?

 

[Karadjgne]

Only you can say as to value. There is a difference as to what an i5 can do vrs an i7. I have both an i5-3570K and an i7-3770K. I have skyrim 64 loaded on both pc's. On the i5, to maintain @ 60fps I'm limited to about 70mods. With the i7 I'm at 170 mods and have yet to see 59fps.

That i7 was $100 more than the i5 when new, and I bought both 6 years+ ago. Many said not to, I didn't need the extra power of the i7. However 6 years later it's done more than pay for itself in terms of playability. For what I play on 1080p/60, I don't need to upgrade.

Value is personal. I've seen ppl spend an extra $1000 just to get an extra 5% fps, on top of the 200fps they already had. It was value to them, not me.