What's the limit of a 4690 I5

[bennyg1357]

I have an I5 4690. It came stock of course at 3.5. I first took it to 4.0, pretty basic and everything ran stable no problems. I decided to try to run it at 4.5 ( I read where guys were doing it) Everything I have runs great, no issues at all, EXCEPT Prime 95. When I run the torture test after about 20 - 25 mins it gets the temp up to 78-79, and I had heard dont let them get hotter then middle 70s at long periods of time. Do you guys think this I5 can handle to I just not run the Prime??? Someone told me one time, " if you cant run prime / torture test for 12 hours it's not a stable system. I have had no shut downs, blue screen's Etc. Etc. What do you think????

 

[GhislainG]

You may not know, but it will throttle if it gets to 100°C. It can run for years at 79°C.

 

[bennyg1357]

You may not know, but it will throttle if it gets to 100°C. It can run for years at 79°C.

I'm not getting any type of error's or anything like that and it's only the Torture Test on Prime 95 that makes it run that hot. I don't know if you have ever run that Prime test, but it is hardcore. The guy who kind of taught me how to build rigs and what to buy always told me " If you can't run the Prime 95 - Torture test for 12 hours, it's not a stable overclock. I have since dropped my chip from 4.5 down to 4.3 and last night I still got up to 80 degrees after only 20 mins or so. But like I said, no errors, no shut-downs and no blue screen. I just stopped it because someone else that I know said don't let your chip stay over 78 - 79. He said it can hit 78 - 79, but it cant stay there for long and of course last night, even dropped down to 4.3 it hit 80 degrees. When you look for Max Temps on a 4690 I5 some say in the 60s some say 70s, do you know what it is???

Thanks for the quick reply!!!

 

[GhislainG]

Why don't you use Intel XTU to monitor it? Then you'll see the maximum temperature, etc. You use Prime95 to check your cooler, not necessarily to prove system stability over 12 hours (even though you could let it run at 90°C for 24 hours and it wouldn't cause issues). There's a good reason why a CPU throttles when it gets too hot; coolers sometimes fail and the CPU has to protect itself by throttling or shutting down if that isn't enough. I know the maximum temperature on the i5-4590 is 100°C; it starts throttling as soon as it gets really close to it.

 

[bennyg1357]

Why don't you use Intel XTU to monitor it? Then you'll see the maximum temperature, etc. You use Prime95 to check your cooler, not necessarily to prove system stability over 12 hours (even though you could let it run at 90°C for 24 hours and it wouldn't cause issues). There's a good reason why a CPU throttles when it gets too hot; coolers sometimes fail and the CPU has to protect itself by throttling or shutting down if that isn't enough. I know the maximum temperature on the i5-4590 is 100°C; it starts throttling as soon as it gets really close to it.

I have another question about storage if you don't mind and if you know. I was just trying to get up and running so I only got a 240 gig PNY SSD, I only had so much money and had to buy every part new. I'm just getting this rig off the ground and I don't have anything on it yet, I think that I have only had it going a month or so and my girl is just now getting to where she is trying to play her FB games and shit like that+ she wants to start saving songs and videos. I have told her to hold off until I get the storage deal under control. I'm already at 62% free and I only have the basics with BF 4 on here so far. I still have a few other games to get, plus the songs and other programs I'm going to run. I'm going to put CAD on my rig so I can do work from home. My boss wants me to start "practicing at home with the CAD" so if I do that, he will cover the cost of my second PNY the 480 gig, my next card, another GTX 970, and the WD to back it all up. So it's a great deal for me!!! My chick is going to add songs and pics and all kinds of other crap. I was thinking about getting a 480 Gig PNY same model and speed and everything ( These little SSDs are bad ass and quick as hell) I want to, I mean should I / can I set the 2 SSDs in some type of RAID configuration and keep everything on those 2 drives and back it all up with a WD Black 1 TB??? Also, if you think I should go a different direction, just let me know. I'm basing everything I'm asking you on different things I read. So rry for being so long winded, just wanted to be thorough

 

[GhislainG]

RAID 0 is more risky (one drive failure and all data is lost) and RAID 1 isn't necessary if you perform backups on a regular basis. RAID is a great solution where appropriate, e.g., NAS, SAN, servers, etc. It isn't on a desktop PC, particularly when using very fast SSDs.