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I figured that after Doom 3, Farcry and Half Life 2 there would be a glut of
new games based on these new 3d engines.

Are we looking at Unreal 3 as the next one?

??
 
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On 2005-05-01, BlueNeo <blue@blue.net> wrote:
>
> I figured that after Doom 3, Farcry and Half Life 2 there would be a glut of
> new games based on these new 3d engines.
>
> Are we looking at Unreal 3 as the next one?

I was expecting more in the way of games using the HL2 and D3 engines,
but the only ones I know of are
Bloodlines
QIV

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On Sun, 1 May 2005 18:52:23 +0100, Toby <google@asktoby.com> wrote:

>On 2005-05-01, BlueNeo <blue@blue.net> wrote:
>>
>> I figured that after Doom 3, Farcry and Half Life 2 there would be a glut of
>> new games based on these new 3d engines.
>>
>> Are we looking at Unreal 3 as the next one?
>
>I was expecting more in the way of games using the HL2 and D3 engines,
>but the only ones I know of are
>Bloodlines
>QIV

And Bloodlines was very disappointing.
 
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"BlueNeo" <blue@blue.net> once tried to test me with:

>
> I figured that after Doom 3, Farcry and Half Life 2 there would be a
> glut of new games based on these new 3d engines.
>
> Are we looking at Unreal 3 as the next one?

I'm still holding my breath for Duke Nukem Forever.



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stalker has had this tag on, but maybe it goes
all a bit nukem. i´d say the next unreal tournament
or maybe unreal 3 will be spectecular, no idea
if it will be "big" as in the sense of the question.
san andreas should do pretty well too, i guess.

cu


frank
 
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Knight37 wrote:
> "BlueNeo" <blue@blue.net> once tried to test me with:
>
>
>>I figured that after Doom 3, Farcry and Half Life 2 there would be a
>>glut of new games based on these new 3d engines.
>>
>>Are we looking at Unreal 3 as the next one?
>
>
> I'm still holding my breath for Duke Nukem Forever.
>
>
>

Latest is that some journalists were shown 20 minutes of game footage
privatley. The game is scheduled to get a public show at 2006 E3, and it
is still using the Unreal 3 engine.
 
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Quoth The Raven "Knight37"<knight37m@email.com> in
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> "BlueNeo" <blue@blue.net> once tried to test me with:
>
>>
>> I figured that after Doom 3, Farcry and Half Life 2 there would be a
>> glut of new games based on these new 3d engines.
>>
>> Are we looking at Unreal 3 as the next one?
>
> I'm still holding my breath for Duke Nukem Forever.

same. I keep trying to convince myself that if its taken this long, it must
be the most awesome game in existence, but then I felt the same way about
Daikatana until it was released.

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Thus spake Memnoch <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com>, Sun, 01 May
2005 18:16:56 GMT, Anno Domini:

>On Sun, 1 May 2005 18:52:23 +0100, Toby <google@asktoby.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2005-05-01, BlueNeo <blue@blue.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I figured that after Doom 3, Farcry and Half Life 2 there would be a glut of
>>> new games based on these new 3d engines.
>>>
>>> Are we looking at Unreal 3 as the next one?
>>
>>I was expecting more in the way of games using the HL2 and D3 engines,
>>but the only ones I know of are
>>Bloodlines
>>QIV
>
>And Bloodlines was very disappointing.

If you were looking for an action game...

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On Mon, 02 May 2005 07:14:47 +1000, Nostromo
<nostromo@spamfree.net.au> wrote:

>>And Bloodlines was very disappointing.
>
>If you were looking for an action game...

Or a debugged game,
 
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Joe62 <jmcginnNOSPAM@radicalREALLYNOSPAM.ca> once tried to test me with:

>>>And Bloodlines was very disappointing.
>>
>>If you were looking for an action game...
>
> Or a debugged game,

I keep meaning to play that, I got it for Christmas. But I keep hearing how
buggy it is and I'm put off by that. I did load it up and played the
"tutorial" under two classes (Nosferatu and then Toreador). But then after
that I just kind of got lost and didn't do much.


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Knight37 wrote:

> I'm still holding my breath for Duke Nukem Forever.

Stop, you're turning blue!
 
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GFree <nickt4001@yahoo.com.au> once tried to test me with:

> Knight37 wrote:
>
>> I'm still holding my breath for Duke Nukem Forever.
>
> Stop, you're turning blue!
>

Oh I died a LONG time ago. I'm a Revenant now, and I will not rest until
Duke Nukem Forever becomes a number one best seller.

On at least 3 platforms.

And it gets an expansion pack.

And another sequel.


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"Knight37" <knight37m@email.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9649ACCA3820Eknight37m@130.133.1.4...
> Joe62 <jmcginnNOSPAM@radicalREALLYNOSPAM.ca> once tried to test me with:
>
>>>>And Bloodlines was very disappointing.
>>>
>>>If you were looking for an action game...
>>
>> Or a debugged game,
>
> I keep meaning to play that, I got it for Christmas. But I keep hearing
> how
> buggy it is and I'm put off by that. I did load it up and played the
> "tutorial" under two classes (Nosferatu and then Toreador). But then after
> that I just kind of got lost and didn't do much.

With the patch its not too bad, I only encountered one gamebreaker. If you
enjoyed Deus Ex or SS2 you'll like Bloodlines.
 
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On Mon, 02 May 2005 07:14:47 +1000, Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> wrote:

>Thus spake Memnoch <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com>, Sun, 01 May
>2005 18:16:56 GMT, Anno Domini:
>
>>On Sun, 1 May 2005 18:52:23 +0100, Toby <google@asktoby.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2005-05-01, BlueNeo <blue@blue.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I figured that after Doom 3, Farcry and Half Life 2 there would be a glut of
>>>> new games based on these new 3d engines.
>>>>
>>>> Are we looking at Unreal 3 as the next one?
>>>
>>>I was expecting more in the way of games using the HL2 and D3 engines,
>>>but the only ones I know of are
>>>Bloodlines
>>>QIV
>>
>>And Bloodlines was very disappointing.
>
>If you were looking for an action game...

I don't think it held up well as an adventure game either. Too many flaws,
poor performance. You would be hard pressed to believe it used the same
engine as HL2, it was simply atrocious. It was good fun to play but it could
have been so much better.
 
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On Sun, 01 May 2005 21:52:29 GMT, Joe62 <jmcginnNOSPAM@radicalREALLYNOSPAM.ca>
wrote:

>On Mon, 02 May 2005 07:14:47 +1000, Nostromo
><nostromo@spamfree.net.au> wrote:
>
>>>And Bloodlines was very disappointing.
>>
>>If you were looking for an action game...
>
>Or a debugged game,

My point exactly. I just wish someone could write a lie detector so that when
you are watching the dev diary movies, with some jerk going on and on about
how great their game is going to be, you can run this over it and have it
shout "Bullshit". From the 5 movies I saw for Bloodlines it did look really
good but the reality didn't relate to the movies unfortunately. I would like
to see a game based on the Garou now.
 
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On Mon, 2 May 2005, Highlandish wrote:

[Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines]
> I had a lot of fun, its one of the rare games I finish, the bugs weren't
> that bad.

If you fear bugs, apply the official patch 1.2 and the unofficial patch
1.4 by Dan Upright and myself (www.nhancer.com/downloads/VTMBup14.zip).
Besides some random crashes which appear in lots of games, these should
fix anything really game stopping and lots of smaller glitches as well.

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On Mon, 2 May 2005, Nostromo wrote:

[Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines]
> I've got 1.3 - what does 1.4 add mate?

Here is the list for all the things 1.4 does. You can also see, that by
"bug" some really minor things are considered which most people probably
don't even notice. But then I fixed some weapons and placed some anew...

v1.4
----
Repaired SWAT rifle crosshair and set damage similar to 'Jamie Sue'.
Made rifles and crossbows use single shots to fit reload animation.
Barabus will not be in the Fu Syndicate anymore after you have left.
Removed illogical placed flamethrower and Ra blade from Hollowbrook.
Chastity will have the Ra blade and a crossbow can be found nearby.
Put flaming crossbow, torch and flamethrower at the Leopold Society.
Changed damage of blunt weapons to fists < arm < baton < bat < iron.
Made CD quest available to all clans as Malkavian lines were there.
Fixed Tawni and friend noticing you before accepting Imalia's quest.
Made vendors sell crossbow bolts with Tseng selling a crossbow too.
Imalia's magazine quest is now also available after her Tawni quest.

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On Mon, 2 May 2005, Memnoch wrote:

> I don't think it held up well as an adventure game either. Too many flaws,

In my opinion as an adventure kind of FPS RPG it beats other classics like
SS2 or DX hand down (and I said this here before often enough, I know 😉.

> poor performance. You would be hard pressed to believe it used the same
> engine as HL2, it was simply atrocious. It was good fun to play but it

I have to admit that there is some thruth here though. Besides all the
bugs which were mostly fixed by Dan Upright and myself and not Troika,
VTMB does run slower and does need more memory than HL2 on comparable
systems. Some of it might be explained by weather effects, moving sky,
more details in greater non-linear levels, lots more of NPCs and stuff
going on than in HL2, but still it seems unpolished and unoptimized...

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On Mon, 2 May 2005 16:34:58 +0200, Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de>
wrote:

>On Mon, 2 May 2005, Memnoch wrote:
>
>> I don't think it held up well as an adventure game either. Too many flaws,
>
>In my opinion as an adventure kind of FPS RPG it beats other classics like
>SS2 or DX hand down (and I said this here before often enough, I know 😉.
>
>> poor performance. You would be hard pressed to believe it used the same
>> engine as HL2, it was simply atrocious. It was good fun to play but it
>
>I have to admit that there is some thruth here though. Besides all the
>bugs which were mostly fixed by Dan Upright and myself and not Troika,
>VTMB does run slower and does need more memory than HL2 on comparable
>systems. Some of it might be explained by weather effects, moving sky,
>more details in greater non-linear levels, lots more of NPCs and stuff
>going on than in HL2, but still it seems unpolished and unoptimized...

HL2 just looks cleaner. You could argue that this was intentional but the
first time you come outside and see that citadel and zoom in and see all those
craft flying out of it you knew you were in for something special. I never
felt that on any level in VTM:B. The haunted hotel was a nice level but beyond
that nothing really stood out.
 
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Quoth The Raven "Knight37"<knight37m@email.com> in
Xns9649ACCA3820Eknight37m@130.133.1.4
> Joe62 <jmcginnNOSPAM@radicalREALLYNOSPAM.ca> once tried to test me
> with:
>
>>>>And Bloodlines was very disappointing.
>>>
>>>If you were looking for an action game...
>>
>> Or a debugged game,
>
> I keep meaning to play that, I got it for Christmas. But I keep
> hearing how buggy it is and I'm put off by that. I did load it up and
> played the "tutorial" under two classes (Nosferatu and then
> Toreador). But then after that I just kind of got lost and didn't do
> much.

I had a lot of fun, its one of the rare games I finish, the bugs weren't
that bad.

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Thus spake Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de>, Mon, 2 May 2005
14:07:06 +0200, Anno Domini:

>On Mon, 2 May 2005, Highlandish wrote:
>
>[Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines]
>> I had a lot of fun, its one of the rare games I finish, the bugs weren't
>> that bad.
>
>If you fear bugs, apply the official patch 1.2 and the unofficial patch
>1.4 by Dan Upright and myself (www.nhancer.com/downloads/VTMBup14.zip).
>Besides some random crashes which appear in lots of games, these should
>fix anything really game stopping and lots of smaller glitches as well.

I've got 1.3 - what does 1.4 add mate?

Apart from the aforementioned 3rd-person mouse control sticking & music
volume (there's also the footstep synching), no show-stoppers whatsoever. If
fact, no other bugs I can comment on, just some very minor clipping issues.

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Thus spake Memnoch <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com>, Mon, 02 May
2005 10:35:14 GMT, Anno Domini:

>On Sun, 01 May 2005 21:52:29 GMT, Joe62 <jmcginnNOSPAM@radicalREALLYNOSPAM.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 02 May 2005 07:14:47 +1000, Nostromo
>><nostromo@spamfree.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>>>And Bloodlines was very disappointing.
>>>
>>>If you were looking for an action game...
>>
>>Or a debugged game,
>
>My point exactly. I just wish someone could write a lie detector so that when
>you are watching the dev diary movies, with some jerk going on and on about
>how great their game is going to be, you can run this over it and have it
>shout "Bullshit". From the 5 movies I saw for Bloodlines it did look really
>good but the reality didn't relate to the movies unfortunately. I would like
>to see a game based on the Garou now.

What ver patch did you use? If none, then you've only yourself to blame,
with Troika's track record lol!

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On Mon, 02 May 2005 22:44:39 +1000, Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> wrote:

>Thus spake Memnoch <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com>, Mon, 02 May
>2005 10:35:14 GMT, Anno Domini:
>
>>On Sun, 01 May 2005 21:52:29 GMT, Joe62 <jmcginnNOSPAM@radicalREALLYNOSPAM.ca>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 02 May 2005 07:14:47 +1000, Nostromo
>>><nostromo@spamfree.net.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>And Bloodlines was very disappointing.
>>>>
>>>>If you were looking for an action game...
>>>
>>>Or a debugged game,
>>
>>My point exactly. I just wish someone could write a lie detector so that when
>>you are watching the dev diary movies, with some jerk going on and on about
>>how great their game is going to be, you can run this over it and have it
>>shout "Bullshit". From the 5 movies I saw for Bloodlines it did look really
>>good but the reality didn't relate to the movies unfortunately. I would like
>>to see a game based on the Garou now.
>
>What ver patch did you use? If none, then you've only yourself to blame,
>with Troika's track record lol!

Unfortunately I played and completed it before any patches were released if
memory serves and didn't really have any incentive in playing it as any of the
other clans. I did save it before a certain point which allowed me to see the
different endings though and did a swift un-install at that point.
 
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Thus spake Memnoch <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com>, Mon, 02 May
2005 10:33:11 GMT, Anno Domini:

>On Mon, 02 May 2005 07:14:47 +1000, Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> wrote:
>
>>Thus spake Memnoch <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com>, Sun, 01 May
>>2005 18:16:56 GMT, Anno Domini:
>>
>>>On Sun, 1 May 2005 18:52:23 +0100, Toby <google@asktoby.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2005-05-01, BlueNeo <blue@blue.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I figured that after Doom 3, Farcry and Half Life 2 there would be a glut of
>>>>> new games based on these new 3d engines.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are we looking at Unreal 3 as the next one?
>>>>
>>>>I was expecting more in the way of games using the HL2 and D3 engines,
>>>>but the only ones I know of are
>>>>Bloodlines
>>>>QIV
>>>
>>>And Bloodlines was very disappointing.
>>
>>If you were looking for an action game...
>
>I don't think it held up well as an adventure game either. Too many flaws,
>poor performance. You would be hard pressed to believe it used the same
>engine as HL2, it was simply atrocious. It was good fun to play but it could
>have been so much better.

I give it single-player rpg of the year. Then again, what was it up against
on the pc? :-/

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Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> wrote in
news:t58c71lirv3jpmevph5f6j3lh2esuoph2v@4ax.com:

> Thus spake Memnoch <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com>, Mon,
> 02 May 2005 10:33:11 GMT, Anno Domini:
>
>>On Mon, 02 May 2005 07:14:47 +1000, Nostromo
>><nostromo@spamfree.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>>Thus spake Memnoch <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com>, Sun,
>>>01 May 2005 18:16:56 GMT, Anno Domini:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 1 May 2005 18:52:23 +0100, Toby <google@asktoby.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2005-05-01, BlueNeo <blue@blue.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I figured that after Doom 3, Farcry and Half Life 2 there would
>>>>>> be a glut of new games based on these new 3d engines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are we looking at Unreal 3 as the next one?
>>>>>
>>>>>I was expecting more in the way of games using the HL2 and D3
>>>>>engines, but the only ones I know of are
>>>>>Bloodlines
>>>>>QIV
>>>>
>>>>And Bloodlines was very disappointing.
>>>
>>>If you were looking for an action game...
>>
>>I don't think it held up well as an adventure game either. Too many
>>flaws, poor performance. You would be hard pressed to believe it used
>>the same engine as HL2, it was simply atrocious. It was good fun to
>>play but it could have been so much better.
>
> I give it single-player rpg of the year. Then again, what was it up
> against on the pc? :-/
>

knights of the old republic 2 that was good not as fun as the original
but fun none the less, ive not finished bloodline yet to i havene made my
mind up yet
 
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