I hope they do come back fighting like they did with the phenom ii, it would be a shame to see the end of there performance cpu's im personally a fan of amd and always will be, i think Intel prices are ridiculous and boring. To me amd cpu's are like the Nissan skyline of cpu's cheap and a lot of fun and intel are the Bentley of cpu's to expensive, boring and come with the trimmings you don't need. I think amd messed up last time around with the bulldozer and piledriver by not using true cores, if they could some how stick with true cores and use the new steam roller or excavator cores which will probably be a 20nm process by then and lower voltages they could probably pull off a decent cpu.