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This might sound simple, but, when do I change an ink cartrdige?

My iP4000 is saying that the black is low.
I've used it several times since the message came up.
I've got replacement inks.
Normally... I would wait until no further printing is possible because
it's gone completely dry.
But I've read from other posts that this may not be a good idea, as on
installation, if starting from completely dry, the other inks are
purged or something?

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks.


OM
 
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"OM" <om.newsgroup@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123320162.630573.251050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> This might sound simple, but, when do I change an ink cartrdige?
>
> My iP4000 is saying that the black is low.
> I've used it several times since the message came up.
> I've got replacement inks.
> Normally... I would wait until no further printing is possible because
> it's gone completely dry.
> But I've read from other posts that this may not be a good idea, as on
> installation, if starting from completely dry, the other inks are
> purged or something?
>
> Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> OM
>
I believe the concern that's been expressed is allowing the cartridge to go
completely empty and then letting it sit instead of replacing the empty
cartridge immediately. Then the ink may dry out and plug things up.
 
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"OM" <om.newsgroup@gmail.com> wrote:
>This might sound simple, but, when do I change an ink cartrdige?
>
>My iP4000 is saying that the black is low.
>I've used it several times since the message came up.
>I've got replacement inks.
>Normally... I would wait until no further printing is possible because
>it's gone completely dry.
>But I've read from other posts that this may not be a good idea, as on
>installation, if starting from completely dry, the other inks are
>purged or something?
>
>Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>OM

You can safely wait until the printer tells you that the black ink has
completely run out.
There is no risk attached to following the manufacturer's recommendations.
Tony
 
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THESE ARE THE FACTS. AFTER YOU GET A LOW WARNING IT IS OK TO PRINT
UNTIL YOU GET AN OUT OF INK WARNING FOR THE PARTICULAR TANK. IT IS THEN
TIME TO CHANGE THEM WITH OEM INK. IFYOU NEGLECT THIS OUT OF INK
CONDITION YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BURNING THE PRINT HEAD. HOW LONG
THAT WILL TAKE IF YOU IGNORE THE OUT OF INK CONDITION I DO NOT KNOW BUT
I RECOMMEND TO HEED CANON'S ADVICE.

OM wrote:

>This might sound simple, but, when do I change an ink cartrdige?
>
>My iP4000 is saying that the black is low.
>I've used it several times since the message came up.
>I've got replacement inks.
>Normally... I would wait until no further printing is possible because
>it's gone completely dry.
>But I've read from other posts that this may not be a good idea, as on
>installation, if starting from completely dry, the other inks are
>purged or something?
>
>Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>OM
>
>
>
 
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measekite wrote:
> THESE ARE THE FACTS. AFTER YOU GET A LOW WARNING IT IS OK TO PRINT
> UNTIL YOU GET AN OUT OF INK WARNING FOR THE PARTICULAR TANK. IT IS
> THEN TIME TO CHANGE THEM WITH OEM INK. IFYOU NEGLECT THIS OUT OF INK
> CONDITION YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BURNING THE PRINT HEAD. HOW LONG
> THAT WILL TAKE IF YOU IGNORE THE OUT OF INK CONDITION I DO NOT KNOW
> BUT I RECOMMEND TO HEED CANON'S ADVICE.


When i get out of ink warning, printer refuses to print anymore except to
finish current print job...right? howerer it is still about 1 cm ink left in
a sponge at that time...

secondly...you said in other post it's not a good idea to use aftermarket
inks...would this include compatibles like Pelikan? It seems a quality
company..

finally...why SHOUTING?
 
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SleeperMan wrote:

>measekite wrote:
>
>
>>THESE ARE THE FACTS. AFTER YOU GET A LOW WARNING IT IS OK TO PRINT
>>UNTIL YOU GET AN OUT OF INK WARNING FOR THE PARTICULAR TANK. IT IS
>>THEN TIME TO CHANGE THEM WITH OEM INK. IFYOU NEGLECT THIS OUT OF INK
>>CONDITION YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BURNING THE PRINT HEAD. HOW LONG
>>THAT WILL TAKE IF YOU IGNORE THE OUT OF INK CONDITION I DO NOT KNOW
>>BUT I RECOMMEND TO HEED CANON'S ADVICE.
>>
>>
>
>
>When i get out of ink warning, printer refuses to print anymore except to
>finish current print job...right? howerer it is still about 1 cm ink left in
>a sponge at that time...
>
>secondly...you said in other post it's not a good idea to use aftermarket
>inks...would this include compatibles like Pelikan? It seems a quality
>company..
>
>finally...why SHOUTING?
>
>
Wrong.

If you press the resume button, the top button on the IP3,4,5000, you
can still print. To a varying degree there appears to be about a cm of
ink remaining but that does not mean the ink flows out of the sponge as
freely or how many prints you can make before the ink becomes restricted
enough to cause damange to the printhead. I guess you can confidentally
print a half dozen or so photos (depending on the size) before things
get too risky but I just change the cart after the notification.

>
>
>
 
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In article <ft8Je.1189$cE1.174918@news.siol.net>, SleeperMan@too.sleepy
says...
> measekite wrote:
> > THESE ARE THE FACTS. AFTER YOU GET A LOW WARNING IT IS OK TO PRINT
> > UNTIL YOU GET AN OUT OF INK WARNING FOR THE PARTICULAR TANK. IT IS
> > THEN TIME TO CHANGE THEM WITH OEM INK. IFYOU NEGLECT THIS OUT OF INK
> > CONDITION YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BURNING THE PRINT HEAD. HOW LONG
> > THAT WILL TAKE IF YOU IGNORE THE OUT OF INK CONDITION I DO NOT KNOW
> > BUT I RECOMMEND TO HEED CANON'S ADVICE.
>
>
> When i get out of ink warning, printer refuses to print anymore except to
> finish current print job...right? howerer it is still about 1 cm ink left in
> a sponge at that time...
>
> secondly...you said in other post it's not a good idea to use aftermarket
> inks...would this include compatibles like Pelikan? It seems a quality
> company..
>
> finally...why SHOUTING?

All is explained by the simple fact he is an idiot, who has never tried
anything that Canon doesn't approve of (by his own admission), yet he
thinks his opinion should carry some weight, without any experience.

There are several good sources of ink, the one I have experience with in
a Canon i960 is Sentient, from alotofthings.com. Research other actual
users' opinions on this site or others.

Pelikan may be a good brand name in pens & drafting ink, but it may not
be a good source of printer ink specifically formulated for each printer
brand. You can be sure that any "universal" ink will be an
unsatisfactory compromise.
>
>
>
 
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In article <1123320162.630573.251050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
om.newsgroup@gmail.com says...
> This might sound simple, but, when do I change an ink cartrdige?
>
> My iP4000 is saying that the black is low.
> I've used it several times since the message came up.
> I've got replacement inks.
> Normally... I would wait until no further printing is possible because
> it's gone completely dry.
> But I've read from other posts that this may not be a good idea, as on
> installation, if starting from completely dry, the other inks are
> purged or something?
>
> Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> OM
>
>
Running completely out of any color of ink will fry the printhead.
Canons use heat to vaporize ink & propel it unto the paper. The ink
provides cooling for the head, & havoc will be wreaked if it runs dry.
Best to avoid any risk of this.
 
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> Running completely out of any color of ink will fry the printhead.
> Canons use heat to vaporize ink & propel it unto the paper. The ink
> provides cooling for the head, & havoc will be wreaked if it runs dry.
> Best to avoid any risk of this.
Thanks for all the replies.
I'm still a bit confused.
The message I get is: "The following ink tanks are running low. Black
[3e]".
Should I wait for a: "OK... we recommend you change the ink cartidge
now" message?

Thanks.
 
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"OM" <om.newsgroup@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123320162.630573.251050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> This might sound simple, but, when do I change an ink cartrdige?
>
> My iP4000 is saying that the black is low.
> I've used it several times since the message came up.
> I've got replacement inks.
> Normally... I would wait until no further printing is possible because
> it's gone completely dry.
> But I've read from other posts that this may not be a good idea, as on
> installation, if starting from completely dry, the other inks are
> purged or something?
>
> Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> OM

OM - Epson and Canon printers indicate that cartridges are to be refilled
when there is still a little ink left in the sponge as it protects the
printhead from running dry and being damaged. Several people have posted
messages in months past complaining about the printer companies ripping us
off by having us waste the last few cc's of ink when they indicate a
cartridge change. Since the actual amount of ink remaining is estimated
they probably err on the side of protecting the print head and leave a bit
more ink than would be absolutely necessary. It is best to not "push it"
and try to use the last few drops of ink as ruining or clogging the print
head is not worth it.
 
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"SleeperMan" <SleeperMan@too.sleepy> wrote in message
news:ft8Je.1189$cE1.174918@news.siol.net...
> measekite wrote:
>> THESE ARE THE FACTS. AFTER YOU GET A LOW WARNING IT IS OK TO PRINT
>> UNTIL YOU GET AN OUT OF INK WARNING FOR THE PARTICULAR TANK. IT IS
>> THEN TIME TO CHANGE THEM WITH OEM INK. IFYOU NEGLECT THIS OUT OF INK
>> CONDITION YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BURNING THE PRINT HEAD. HOW LONG
>> THAT WILL TAKE IF YOU IGNORE THE OUT OF INK CONDITION I DO NOT KNOW
>> BUT I RECOMMEND TO HEED CANON'S ADVICE.
>
>
> When i get out of ink warning, printer refuses to print anymore except to
> finish current print job...right? howerer it is still about 1 cm ink left
> in a sponge at that time...
>
> secondly...you said in other post it's not a good idea to use aftermarket
> inks...would this include compatibles like Pelikan? It seems a quality
> company..
>
> finally...why SHOUTING?

Sleeperman - many of us on this newsgroup use aftermarket inks successfully.
The person shouting has never used them, nor has he done business with any
of the vendors. He always warns people against using these products even
though he has no experience with them. He will undoubtedly follow this
message with more of his shouting and nonsense. I have killfiled him and
only see his messages when someone like you responds. He is shouting
because he thinks that will gain more attention and credibility to his
arguements.

I don't know about the Pelikan inks. Please read the following websites and
see what other people are using. It is important to be very selective about
which cartridges and inks you use and it is best to get advice from others
who can, from their own experience, recommend a specific product. I, and
several others, refill cartridges with one of three inks that are available
online - MIS, Formulabs bulk ink from Alotofthings, and Hobbicolors
available on ebay. Neil Slade's site is good background info and the Nifty
forum is a good discussion forum for people who either use these products or
want information on using them. It is primarily about Canon printers, but
others are discussed as well.
http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html

http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/


>
>
 
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Burt wrote:

>"SleeperMan" <SleeperMan@too.sleepy> wrote in message
>news:ft8Je.1189$cE1.174918@news.siol.net...
>
>
>>measekite wrote:
>>
>>
>>>THESE ARE THE FACTS. AFTER YOU GET A LOW WARNING IT IS OK TO PRINT
>>>UNTIL YOU GET AN OUT OF INK WARNING FOR THE PARTICULAR TANK. IT IS
>>>THEN TIME TO CHANGE THEM WITH OEM INK. IFYOU NEGLECT THIS OUT OF INK
>>>CONDITION YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BURNING THE PRINT HEAD. HOW LONG
>>>THAT WILL TAKE IF YOU IGNORE THE OUT OF INK CONDITION I DO NOT KNOW
>>>BUT I RECOMMEND TO HEED CANON'S ADVICE.
>>>
>>>
>>When i get out of ink warning, printer refuses to print anymore except to
>>finish current print job...right? howerer it is still about 1 cm ink left
>>in a sponge at that time...
>>
>>secondly...you said in other post it's not a good idea to use aftermarket
>>inks...would this include compatibles like Pelikan? It seems a quality
>>company..
>>
>>finally...why SHOUTING?
>>
>>
>
>Sleeperman - many of the idiots on this newsgroup use aftermarket inks unsuccessfully.
>The person shouting has always used them, nor has he done business with any
>of the whores. He always warns people against using these products even
>though he has no experience with them. He will undoubtedly follow this
>message with more of his shouting and nonsense. I have killfiled him and
>only see his messages when someone like you responds.
>

I DONT DINK SO

>He is shouting
>because he thinks that will gain more attention and credibility to his
>arguements.
>
>I don't know about the Pelikan inks.
>
DAY FLEW AWAY

>Please read the following websites and
>see what other people are using. It is important to be very selective about
>which cartridges and inks you use and it is best to get advice from others
>who can, from their own experience, recommend a specific product. I, and
>several others, refill cartridges with one of three inks that are available
>online
>

> SNIP
>

> Neil Slade's site is good background info and the Nifty
>forum is a good discussion forum for people who either use these products or
>want information on using them.
>

HE IS DA MODERATOR. LIKE PREACHING TO DA CHOIR. WHAT DIS WURLD IS
KOMING TWO

> It is primarily about Canon printers, but
>others are discussed as well.
>http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html
>
>http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
 
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"OM" <om.newsgroup@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Running completely out of any color of ink will fry the printhead.
>> Canons use heat to vaporize ink & propel it unto the paper. The ink
>> provides cooling for the head, & havoc will be wreaked if it runs dry.
>> Best to avoid any risk of this.
>Thanks for all the replies.
>I'm still a bit confused.
>The message I get is: "The following ink tanks are running low. Black
>[3e]".
>Should I wait for a: "OK... we recommend you change the ink cartidge
>now" message?
>
>Thanks.

No intention to confuse you.
It is safe to continue to print until you get the out of ink message. No harm
will be done.
The cartridge retains a small amount of ink in the foam area to keep the
printhead healthy.
Change the cartridge as soon as you get the out of ink message.
Tony
 
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You don't have to shout........

"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
news:i%4Je.232$911.210@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> THESE ARE THE FACTS. AFTER YOU GET A LOW WARNING IT IS OK TO PRINT
> UNTIL YOU GET AN OUT OF INK WARNING FOR THE PARTICULAR TANK. IT IS THEN
> TIME TO CHANGE THEM WITH OEM INK. IFYOU NEGLECT THIS OUT OF INK
> CONDITION YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BURNING THE PRINT HEAD. HOW LONG
> THAT WILL TAKE IF YOU IGNORE THE OUT OF INK CONDITION I DO NOT KNOW BUT
> I RECOMMEND TO HEED CANON'S ADVICE.
>
> OM wrote:
>
> >This might sound simple, but, when do I change an ink cartrdige?
> >
> >My iP4000 is saying that the black is low.
> >I've used it several times since the message came up.
> >I've got replacement inks.
> >Normally... I would wait until no further printing is possible because
> >it's gone completely dry.
> >But I've read from other posts that this may not be a good idea, as on
> >installation, if starting from completely dry, the other inks are
> >purged or something?
> >
> >Any feedback would be appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >
> >OM
> >
> >
> >
 
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Irwin Peckinloomer wrote:

>In article <ft8Je.1189$cE1.174918@news.siol.net>, SleeperMan@too.sleepy
>says...
>
>
>>measekite wrote:
>>
>>
>>>THESE ARE THE FACTS. AFTER YOU GET A LOW WARNING IT IS OK TO PRINT
>>>UNTIL YOU GET AN OUT OF INK WARNING FOR THE PARTICULAR TANK. IT IS
>>>THEN TIME TO CHANGE THEM WITH OEM INK. IFYOU NEGLECT THIS OUT OF INK
>>>CONDITION YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BURNING THE PRINT HEAD. HOW LONG
>>>THAT WILL TAKE IF YOU IGNORE THE OUT OF INK CONDITION I DO NOT KNOW
>>>BUT I RECOMMEND TO HEED CANON'S ADVICE.
>>>
>>>
>>When i get out of ink warning, printer refuses to print anymore except to
>>finish current print job...right? howerer it is still about 1 cm ink left in
>>a sponge at that time...
>>
>>secondly...you said in other post it's not a good idea to use aftermarket
>>inks...would this include compatibles like Pelikan? It seems a quality
>>company..
>>
>>finally...why SHOUTING?
>>
>>
>
>All is explained by the simple fact that I am an idiot, who has never tried
>anything that Canon doesn't approve of (by his own admission), yet I
>thinks my opinion should carry some weight, without any experience.
>
>There are no good sources of ink, the one I have experience with in
>a Canon i960
>

snip

>Research other actual
>users' opinions on this site or others.
>
>Pelikan is a bird may be a good brand name in pens & drafting ink, but it may not
>be a good source of printer ink specifically formulated for each printer
>brand. You can be sure that any "universal" ink will be an
>satisfactory compromise.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
 
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In article <inpJe.317$zr1.262@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
> *READ THE MANUAL AND YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO ASK THSES QUESTIONS. IT IS
> VERY CLEAR.
> *
Read your "English as a Second Language" text again, and you will not
misspells theses wordses so much. Also, your manual will reveal the
secret (to you) location of your capslock key (over on the left, near
where your head is inserted in your ass).
 
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Irwin Peckinloomer wrote:

> In article <inpJe.317$zr1.262@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
> inkystinky@oem.com says...
>
>>*READ THE MANUAL AND YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO ASK THSES QUESTIONS. IT IS
>>VERY CLEAR.
>>*
>
> Read your "English as a Second Language" text again, and you will not
> misspells theses wordses so much. Also, your manual will reveal the
> secret (to you) location of your capslock key (over on the left, near
> where your head is inserted in your ass).

hehehehe...that's hysterical! 🙂
Frank
 
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"Irwin Peckinloomer" <semimoto@spamforYahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d60b9ddf2efc9a59896fa@news.aracnet.com...
> In article <inpJe.317$zr1.262@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
> inkystinky@oem.com says...
> > *READ THE MANUAL AND YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO ASK THSES QUESTIONS. IT IS
> > VERY CLEAR.
> > *
> Read your "English as a Second Language" text again, and you will not
> misspells theses wordses so much. Also, your manual will reveal the
> secret (to you) location of your capslock key (over on the left, near
> where your head is inserted in your ass).


HeHeHeHeHe ...
 
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Frank wrote:

> Irwin Peckinloomer wrote:
>
>> In article <inpJe.317$zr1.262@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
>> inkystinky@oem.com says...
>>
>>> *READ THE MANUAL AND YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO ASK THSES QUESTIONS. IT
>>> IS VERY CLEAR.
>>> *
>>
>>
>> Read your "English as a Second Language" text again, and you will not
>> misspells theses wordses so much. Also, your manual will reveal the
>> secret (to you) location of your capslock key (over on the left, near
>> where your head is inserted in your ass).
>
>
> hehehehe...that's hysterical! 🙂
> Frank


HEHEHEHEHE HEEEEES BAAAACK
 
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RSD99 wrote:

>"Irwin Peckinloomer" <semimoto@spamforYahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:MPG.1d60b9ddf2efc9a59896fa@news.aracnet.com...
>
>
>>In article <inpJe.317$zr1.262@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
>>inkystinky@oem.com says...
>>
>>
>>>*READ THE MANUAL AND YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO ASK THSES QUESTIONS. IT IS
>>>VERY CLEAR.
>>>*
>>>
>>>
>>Read your "English as a Second Language" text again, and you will not
>>misspells theses wordses so much. Also, your manual will reveal the
>>secret (to you) location of your capslock key (over on the left, near
>>where your head is inserted in your ass).
>>
>>
>
>
>HeHeHeHeHe ...
>
>

Frankie Crankie da laugher

>
>
>
>
>
 
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Never let a printer run on empty. Never remove ink cartridges from the
printer if you are not using it. This will cause clogging and ruin the
printer especially Epsons
"OM" <om.newsgroup@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123320162.630573.251050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> This might sound simple, but, when do I change an ink cartrdige?
>
> My iP4000 is saying that the black is low.
> I've used it several times since the message came up.
> I've got replacement inks.
> Normally... I would wait until no further printing is possible because
> it's gone completely dry.
> But I've read from other posts that this may not be a good idea, as on
> installation, if starting from completely dry, the other inks are
> purged or something?
>
> Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> OM
>
 
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Burt wrote:
> "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan@too.sleepy> wrote in message
> news:ft8Je.1189$cE1.174918@news.siol.net...
>> measekite wrote:
>>> THESE ARE THE FACTS. AFTER YOU GET A LOW WARNING IT IS OK TO PRINT
>>> UNTIL YOU GET AN OUT OF INK WARNING FOR THE PARTICULAR TANK. IT IS
>>> THEN TIME TO CHANGE THEM WITH OEM INK. IFYOU NEGLECT THIS OUT OF
>>> INK CONDITION YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BURNING THE PRINT HEAD. HOW LONG
>>> THAT WILL TAKE IF YOU IGNORE THE OUT OF INK CONDITION I DO
>>> NOT KNOW BUT I RECOMMEND TO HEED CANON'S ADVICE.
>>
>>
>> When i get out of ink warning, printer refuses to print anymore
>> except to finish current print job...right? howerer it is still
>> about 1 cm ink left in a sponge at that time...
>>
>> secondly...you said in other post it's not a good idea to use
>> aftermarket inks...would this include compatibles like Pelikan? It
>> seems a quality company..
>>
>> finally...why SHOUTING?
>
> Sleeperman - many of us on this newsgroup use aftermarket inks
> successfully. The person shouting has never used them, nor has he
> done business with any of the vendors. He always warns people
> against using these products even though he has no experience with
> them. He will undoubtedly follow this message with more of his
> shouting and nonsense. I have killfiled him and only see his
> messages when someone like you responds. He is shouting because he
> thinks that will gain more attention and credibility to his
> arguements.
> I don't know about the Pelikan inks. Please read the following
> websites and see what other people are using. It is important to be
> very selective about which cartridges and inks you use and it is best
> to get advice from others who can, from their own experience,
> recommend a specific product. I, and several others, refill
> cartridges with one of three inks that are available online - MIS,
> Formulabs bulk ink from Alotofthings, and Hobbicolors available on
> ebay. Neil Slade's site is good background info and the Nifty forum
> is a good discussion forum for people who either use these products
> or want information on using them. It is primarily about Canon
> printers, but others are discussed as well.
> http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html
> http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/

well, i guess this still remains a mystery. Many users use quite hapilly
refills etc....i used refill ink on my i550, head died after year and a
half, but i still doubt it was ink's fault, since there were many complaints
about same defet with only original ink used...
But, still in this period of time i saved so much that i could buy new
ip4000 and still put a few bucks in my pocket, so it is worthed, i guess...
 
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SleeperMan wrote:

>
> well, i guess this still remains a mystery. Many users use quite hapilly
> refills etc....i used refill ink on my i550, head died after year and a
> half, but i still doubt it was ink's fault, since there were many complaints
> about same defet with only original ink used...
> But, still in this period of time i saved so much that i could buy new
> ip4000 and still put a few bucks in my pocket, so it is worthed, i guess...
>
>

Yeah I agree. Only a dickhead would continue to pay for oem ink carts
when after market ink have been shown to be just as good in color and
non-clogging as oem's.
Hard to image anyone (other than our resident troll) that stupid in
todays world.
Frank
 
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SleeperMan wrote:

>Burt wrote:
>
>
>>"SleeperMan" <SleeperMan@too.sleepy> wrote in message
>>news:ft8Je.1189$cE1.174918@news.siol.net...
>>
>>
>>>measekite wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>THESE ARE THE FACTS. AFTER YOU GET A LOW WARNING IT IS OK TO PRINT
>>>>UNTIL YOU GET AN OUT OF INK WARNING FOR THE PARTICULAR TANK. IT IS
>>>>THEN TIME TO CHANGE THEM WITH OEM INK. IFYOU NEGLECT THIS OUT OF
>>>>INK CONDITION YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BURNING THE PRINT HEAD. HOW LONG
>>>>THAT WILL TAKE IF YOU IGNORE THE OUT OF INK CONDITION I DO
>>>>NOT KNOW BUT I RECOMMEND TO HEED CANON'S ADVICE.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>When i get out of ink warning, printer refuses to print anymore
>>>except to finish current print job...right? howerer it is still
>>>about 1 cm ink left in a sponge at that time...
>>>
>>>secondly...you said in other post it's not a good idea to use
>>>aftermarket inks...would this include compatibles like Pelikan? It
>>>seems a quality company..
>>>
>>>finally...why SHOUTING?
>>>
>>>
>>Sleeperman - many of us on this newsgroup use aftermarket inks
>>successfully. The person shouting has never used them, nor has he
>>done business with any of the vendors. He always warns people
>>against using these products even though he has no experience with
>>them. He will undoubtedly follow this message with more of his
>>shouting and nonsense. I have killfiled him and only see his
>>messages when someone like you responds. He is shouting because he
>>thinks that will gain more attention and credibility to his
>>arguements.
>>I don't know about the Pelikan inks. Please read the following
>>websites and see what other people are using. It is important to be
>>very selective about which cartridges and inks you use and it is best
>>to get advice from others who can, from their own experience,
>>recommend a specific product. I, and several others, refill
>>cartridges with one of three inks that are available online - MIS,
>>Formulabs bulk ink from Alotofthings, and Hobbicolors available on
>>ebay. Neil Slade's site is good background info and the Nifty forum
>>is a good discussion forum for people who either use these products
>>or want information on using them. It is primarily about Canon
>>printers, but others are discussed as well.
>>http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html
>>http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/
>>
>>
>
>well, i guess this still remains a mystery. Many users use quite hapilly
>refills etc....i used refill ink on my i550, head died after year and a
>half, but i still doubt it was ink's fault, since there were many complaints
>about same defet with only original ink used...
>But, still in this period of time i saved so much that i could buy new
>ip4000 and still put a few bucks in my pocket, so it is worthed, i guess...
>
>

Not Worth It. There is more than money. I just do not like supporting
dishonest whores. Just like the drug companies who advertise to you the
customer when you cannot write a Rx. It just drives the price of the RX
up when you fill your Doctor's Rx. They are whores just like the ink
vendors who will not tell you what they are buying.

>
>
>
 
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In article <4jbKe.3667$zr1.1686@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
>

> Not Worth It. There is more than money. I just do not like supporting
> dishonest whores. Just like the drug companies who advertise to you the
> customer when you cannot write a Rx. It just drives the price of the RX
> up when you fill your Doctor's Rx. They are whores just like the ink
> vendors who will not tell you what they are buying.
>
This is really strange! I agree with inkystinky 100% on the prescription
drug issue. I wonder why he doesn't see the printer manufacturers as the
whores who are selling him a cartridge for $10 that he could refill for
50 cents? And why isn't he offended that they use scare tactics to
convince him (and many other naive users) that ink other than their own
will cause damage? They tell him to only use Canon paper also, and he
sees through that, but is blind to the fact that he is being led by his
nose ring to overpay for ink.

But he is obviously a strange person, motivated by some hidden agenda.
 
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