When Overclocking Becomes An Addiction

We all have our reasons for OCing so this is more of sharing with each other what we discover about ourselves when OCing seems to be heading towards a state of addiction, IMO you're officially addicted to OCing when you purchase brand new parts for the sole purpose of OCing right out of the box, so with that mentality you're ready to toss your warranty to the wind if it gets in the way of your goal.

We all tend to think if we can keep it cool enough that throwing more voltage to it doesn't matter, however thats really the fastest way to destruction, but necessary for OCs way beyond factory specifications, but does alert CPU manufacturers that Johnny [theorectical person], has his own self fried up the CPU so his warranty claim is denied by the CPU manufacturer.

The goal setters [someone that has predetermined a high O/C goal out of the box based on review information], seem to get themselves in more trouble than anyone else, simply because the silicon quality properties of one CPU and hardware combinations [M/B and RAM], may yield a higher or lower expected output than the exact same hardware manufactured at different times, or different quality batches, and also completely differing hardware combinations will yield different results, than some review article that you've read.

Even if your goal is the maximum O/C you can possibly get with the cooling setup you have, and throwing caution to the wind using whatever voltage is required to get there, its not wise to intend to run that O/C 24/7, under those circumstances you are seriously shortening the hardware life, however it is your money and your choice.

If thats the type of O/Cer you are, its a good idea to keep a second operational machine, so you can access the internet when your O/Cing computer bites the dust, because it is just a matter of time before it does under those conditions, and without a backup you're dead in the water.

Personally I class myself as being addicted to O/Cing, however my past serious mistakes I had to eat at my own expense, have made me more cautious in my endeavors as of late, so what I've learned is to O/C to see where I can get with a certain setup then back down a notch or two, to run 24/7, and allow the CPU to run at these higher speeds and voltages to kind of give it a seat in time period to get used to running faster than spec speeds and settings.

So far it seems if you give the CPU time to get used to running at a higher setting and voltage for like a break in period, it seems to O/C a little higher later on, its kinda like a break in period for a car with a brand new motor, unless you just have loads of money to throw out the window you're not going to drive it 180mph [if thats the cars top speed], off the show room floor.

O/Cing takes us past the manufacturers suggested break in straight out of the box, and some peoples car break in policy is, break it in how you intend to drive it, that may not be the best approach with O/Cing a CPU, since too much voltage allows electrical migration from the begining, and we don't want to deal with that for some time, [unless we have money to throw out the window], but if we had that, we shouldn't need to O/C because we could afford the best of the best, and replace it as it gets bested by new technology.

When it comes to O/Cing way before it ever becomes an addiction, and this is for you newbies to O/Cing that are constantly asking us to hold your hand and walk you through O/Cing you new precious, as I've said many times, learn first!, Then Do!, using the internet to study O/Cing articles and How Too's, learn what you're doing first before you attempt O/Cing anything.

If you don't even know how to enter your BIOS settings, you have a lot of learning to do and that is your responsibility not ours, any successful O/Cer has invested time in learning what they were doing before they did it, so learn first then do and maybe one day you'll get addicted to O/Cing too.

That may or may not be a good thing, because you also need to learn when to quit and be satisfied with what you have, and enjoy the benefits of getting more than you paid for, before you destroy your investment.

Edit; Unless destroying, or sacrificing your investment was your initial goal for bragging rights in the first place! Ryan



 

But, Johnny got 4.9 :sarcastic:
Seriously, good advice.
 

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if its stable and wont die in 12 months ill rape my cpu for whats its worth, im addicted when i buy a second cpu just to bench on my phase unit and try for a record lol, not quite there yet tho
 

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Personally I class myself as being addicted to O/Cing, however my past serious mistakes I had to eat at my own expense, have made me more cautious in my endeavors as of late, so what I've learned is to O/C to see where I can get with a certain setup then back down a notch or two, to run 24/7, and allow the CPU to run at these higher speeds and voltages to kind of give it a seat in time period to get used to running faster than spec speeds and settings.

So far it seems if you give the CPU time to get used to running at a higher setting and voltage for like a break in period, it seems to O/C a little higher later on, its kinda like a break in period for a car with a brand new motor, unless you just have loads of money to throw out the window you're not going to drive it 180mph [if thats the cars top speed], off the show room floor.

I find this an interesting statement. You've gotten better performance by allowing a burn in time at a higher clock speed for a CPU. In automobiles, the break in period wears off the rough points on the bearings and any metal to metal contact points. This makes sense, less rough points, less friction, less wear and tear when you run at higher rpm's later.

I'm just wondering from the physics of the CPU what changes during the burn in time. There is no mechanical wear going on, the only thing I can think of is some form of eletro-migration occuring at the gate level. It would be interesting if the chip manufacturer test a part, ran extended times at higher clocks and then retest at the original clock to see if they can detect any difference in the before to after parts.

In my case, I don't overclock at all. I'm happy with a known good system running at spec. Just call me timid.
 

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HOLY COW!!!! I never considered myself addicted to OCn'. I just give em a little bump before they are out of date so I can run them a little longer. Works really good for me. :)
 


Its those that live in denial that are the worst of the worst ! ROFLMAO :lol:
 

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lol
You need to go to rehab
 
I used to be addicted to overclocking back in the mid 90's, mainly because PC's were so slow, every bit you could wring out of your processor showed improvement that you could instantly, positively see. As processors have become faster, I don't seem to care about it as much. My last couple of builds, I simply bumped the buss speed up a couple hundred mhz, more or less just to satisify myself that I am getting a little more than I paid for, and I am perfectly fine. Perhaps it is also that I have kinda moved away from playing games all night and all day. I load a game maybe once or twice a week and play around for an hour or two. Maybe some of it is because I feel the "edge" has been taken off. Hell, everything you buy these days is made for overclocking, BIOS's settings have advanced to the point of being an overclockers dream. Back when I was pushing my AMD DX4 120 to 200 mhz, (with 3DFX graphics) things were a lot different!

If that new Mechwarrior ever hits the shelf though, I may have a relapse.
 

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Great thread, haha overshocked needs to go to rehab :D
I overclock just for the hell of it, getting a cheap processor and overclocking it to the expensive processor's speed at no cost. Saves money, so why not?
 

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Amen
 


Well that brings back memories, 80mhz made a major difference back then for sure, today 80mhz is a total disappointment, times have really changed haven't they!
 

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well i read the first post and had a laugh. I didn't "research" how to oc nor did i have a back a pc nor did i ever ask for help cause that would have killed the whole learning kerb. I simply heard about how ppl were getting this extra performance for nothing and wanted in. Well that was back when i ahd an AMd 3000+ Clawhammer @2ghz. i got that puppy to 2.7ghz on the stock cooler.

it seems that it got that hot that when i learnt that im meant to keep the temps low and bought a aftermarket HSF i have been glued to the stock HSF. When i tried to pull the stock HSF of the cpu came out of the socket while the lever was still locked in place. Had to get a screw driver and a hammer to get them apart but i still worked but never oc'd as high for some reason.

Now i just do it to see what it can do, its my hobby. If i wanna relax a bit i grab a can of wild turkey from the fridge crack it, have a sip then see if i cant take my system a bit further. That and its a good excuse when you fry something to buy a new better one.
 


ROF freakin LMAO :lol: