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Hey Dark, why didn't you answer me in this thread? As for everyone else, this thread is a good introduction to who Dark is.

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If you are so enlightened as you claim to be, why don't you enlighten us? We're certainly not dumb. And I, for one, consider myself open-minded. So tell us: what is so ridiculous in admitting Itanium's strengths?

And what is it that makes you so superior and able to walk in, insult the whole forum and walk out? It's certainly not your superior ethics, that's for sure.
Please. Flaming me for silly reasons is not going to do anything. I'm not going to spend my energy arguing empty topics.
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Uh, I forgot, it's your superior intellect. You're the one doing the flaming here, can't you see that? Not us.
 
about SPEC suite of benchmark.

Spec viewperf is a old benchmark cannot be use anymore many old benhcmark are still use.

Ask Fugger for info on this platform it come form Numa Flex mobo forom SGI they also offer 1 of the fastest Stream benchmark at 120 GB/S for 64 way sure that Alpha EV7 offer well over 200 GB/S but use RDRAM.Alpha EV78 will go over 300 GB/S

Yes in real life itanium dont scale that much.


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Meet Dark, not an Intel fanboy, but Intel PRIEST.
Religious as he is to them, he seeketh the truth and only that. It's a Matrix world to him. The truth is hidden from all of us, and it is his job to awaken the heretic inside us that seems to fiddle with AMD's cronies and PR dept. and destroy it from eating us. AMD is evil I tell ya, and Dark, is the Intel priest here to awaken us!
Lies! Silence!
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Yeah the guy is demented, ignore him.

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Do NOT bother with him, DH, seriously. This guy is nuts, he is just plain nuts.

And yeah, to everyone, enjoy seeing how one can take companies and make them become real people with icons that we should take personally if they are not reverred.

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Hey Dark, why didn't you answer me in this thread?
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answer what exactly?

If you are so enlightened as you claim to be, why don't you enlighten us? We're certainly not dumb. And I, for one, consider myself open-minded. So tell us: what is so ridiculous in admitting Itanium's strengths?

And what is it that makes you so superior and able to walk in, insult the whole forum and walk out? It's certainly not your superior ethics, that's for sure.

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Please. Flaming me for silly reasons is not going to do anything. I'm not going to spend my energy arguing empty topics.



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Uh, I forgot, it's your superior intellect. You're the one doing the flaming here, can't you see that? Not us.
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It seems you came to these forums after I left. I did not mean to flame anyone here, if that;s what you assume. I'm commenting on the state of the forums as a whole, not on any individual members. If you think I'm insulting everyone, then by all means believe whatever you want.

I will only briefly talk about the confusion. This thread has already become bad enough...

Certain people (in this thread) do not realize how well the Itaniums can scale as more CPU's are added. Furthermore, the "compiler" is really a software emulator which is supposed to give the equivalent performance of a 1.5GHz Xeon. Madison is not a complete redesign. They took the McKinley core, doubled the L3 cache, improved it's heirarchy, made some small "undocumented" core improvements, and raised the clock speed. Really, it's a small redesign.

As you can see, Eden made a sarcastic remark towards me, and I calmly replied. He then started his usual ramblings.

Just to let everyone know, I'm considered a so-called "Intel fanboy" in these forums.

Hey Eden, unlike you, I have gotten over my ignorance. I consider Intel and AMD CPU's and systems to be basically equal in stability. AMD systems simply take more time to make stable. Intel systems take less time, and less tweaking for stability. Intel takes care of some of the "little details" that AMD does not, and those details make a difference. I no longer have time to tweak and play around with my system to make it stable. I simply want a system to be stable from the get-go. Intel systems suit my needs. If I ever have so much time, then I may try an AMD system. This not only goes for CPU's, but for chipsets. Chipsets for AMD systems all usually have some problem or other...even Nforce 2. There my little blurb is done, and I will not reply to any sort of flamatory remarks.

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<font color=green>Ignorance is bliss...isn't it (especially if you're a fanboy)?

"... In the semiconductor industry, it's good to be paranoid ..." - [Andy Grove]</font color=green>
 
how much did Intel pay you to say that?? 25 cents or 50??? if u call that a "non-biased" comment then it's like saying "Amd doesn't suck ass, it's just that Intel is 100000times better" (QUOTE) I consider Intel and AMD CPU's and systems to be basically equal in stability. AMD systems simply take more time to make stable. Intel systems take less time, and less tweaking for stability (/QUOTE) Amd Cpu takes long time to what? you do realise before the "c" series came out for P4 Amd was on par with Intel? or were u reading "The intel lover's hardware guide" since Intel was getting caught up by Amd? Also you dont need to tweak a computer to make it stable, tweaking it actually makes it less stable in most case

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Ohh boy. I mean tweaking, as in fiddling with drivers, getting proper versions for programs, getting patches, checking BIOS settings to make sure everything is OK, etc. I call these "the little things". For an Intel system, you have to do less of these "little things' than you have to for an AMD system. If you think that putting together and setting up an AMD system is JUST as easy and <i>hassle-free</i> as an Intel system, you are mistaken.

I simply said that, <i>in general</i>, AMD systems and Intel systems are equal in stability. IF I said that AMD systems offer you the same ease and peace-of-mind as Intel systems, I would be wrong. THAT would be a false statement, but it would probably be considered correct in these forums.

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<font color=green>Ignorance is bliss...isn't it (especially if you're a fanboy)?

"... In the semiconductor industry, it's good to be paranoid ..." - [Andy Grove]</font color=green>
 
Yes, your point regarding Intel's attention to detail is very agreeable from my point of view. Indeed, it would seem they do things more conservatively and in a more methodical, detailed, careful manner.

I came to these forums after you left, Dark_Archonis.

And about Itanium's scalability, I was just trying to say to Eden that the SPEC numbers look good for Itanium's scalability, and Opteron's scalability is not above Itanium's, like the HT hype made everyone think it was. Itanium is quite capable of scaling.
 
Are we talking about Itanium or Itanium 2 or Itanium 3?

I can't find much info on Itanium 3 (Madison) that's in English.

UPDATE: Aha! Man answers own question!
Apparantly Intel is going with Itanium 2 for the Madison core according to <A HREF="http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/2229181" target="_new">this</A> article. Seconded <A HREF="http://www.intel.com/products/server/processors/index.htm?iid=ipp_home+server_proc&" target="_new">here</A>.
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<b><font color=red>Three great virtues of a programmer are: laziness, impatience, and hubris.</font color=red><b><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by dwellman on 07/02/03 10:57 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
Itanium can shine as much in SPEC as you want, it won't beat a Duron on x86 code.
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That would be great to see. :lol:
My Org/Arch class (last year, I'm just remembering this now) basically came to the same conclusion: SPEC are about as meaningless in real world/application as MFLOPS.

Dave

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<b><font color=red>Three great virtues of a programmer are: laziness, impatience, and hubris.</font color=red><b>
 
Yes, I know that, BUT noone buys an Itanium chip for x86 code! That much is obvious. And we don't have many Itanium performance references at all, so we're using the only numbers we've got...

...but hey, if you want some other numbers, there was this review on Ace's <A HREF="http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=55000263" target="_new">(here)</A> that showed the rendering performance of a 1.0Ghz Itanium at three times the one from a single 1.8Ghz Opteron. Someone should verify that score sometime... It looks strange, anyway.

Anyway, it's hard to find numbers on Itanium to do a good comparison. These are all I could find, aside from SPEC marks...
 
I'm sorry. That moron, Dark Ar-cone-in-his-ass, mentioned it. I'm easily confused sometimes.

Frankly, a server, to me is the software it runs. I could care less about Itanium, Opteron, Xeon, ect. Now, Sun Microsystems: that's a different story. Their SunFire servers have endured much techno-drool on my part.

Regards,

Dave

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<b><font color=red>Three great virtues of a programmer are: laziness, impatience, and hubris.</font color=red><b>
 
Hey Eden, unlike you, I have gotten over my ignorance.
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Funny you say that, without having any idea who I am here. Funny you even come and judge me, when so many here know more about who I am.

If you've gotten over your ignorance, then go post in the silly threads you had been posting in the past and tell me if you do laugh at yourself. I laughed at myself when I saw how AMD-oriented I was. Yet you massacred me back then saying I still am.
Not only this but you come to this forum, read this thread AND actually have the nerve to say things are still the same?
Man you really are lost, I was merely getting informed on Itanium.

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I've never disagreed towards Intel's methodology as well, however like I said before, this is Dark, whom if you read his posts in the past, you'd freak out wondering who can be as religious as him. That wasn't a fanboy, (read:NOT a fanboy) but a priest. Seriously.
Ah well, if he changed, great, but he does look like he still acts Holier-than-thou, so I ain't putting any hope or time into him, I'll just go on with good people like you! :smile:

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I also previously imagined Itanium 3 was Madison but indeed, there is none yet. I expect an Itanium 3 to be a more revamped core.

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LOL, *Children of the damned voice*we WANT you, JOIN US....

Say I noticed when you linked the graph before, it was highlighted by a subtitle message in German I believe. Just out of curiosity are you German?

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Um, no, actually, I'm from Brazil. I speak german, however, and have been to Germany on a number of occasions... My mother's family is from Germany.

And one more thing, I'm probably younger than you think I am. Just so you know...
 
Ahhh I see. Will learn it next year (exempted from English in college, yay 3 years!). I can't wait to learn a new language.

As for age, I'm quite the curious person, so I guess you figured my next question! :smile:

I'm 16 btw.

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I also previously imagined Itanium 3 was Madison
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You're not the only one.
<A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=5787" target="_new">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=5787</A>

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<b><font color=red>Three great virtues of a programmer are: laziness, impatience, and hubris.</font color=red><b>
 
Yes, well, I'm obviously not the one responsible for spending the institute's money, but I do give advice at times. Very few people around here are as interested in hardware as I am. (you'd be amazed how people over a certain age always say "um, I don't have time for that" even though they might just have)

I also said some words on the 4 new dual-xeon systems around here before they were purchased... Fine machines. HT is impressive. I had posted that earlier (remember?) I'm thinking about writing some basic benchmarking program... I also have access (I'm doing a bit of molecular dynamics now, and I've got a scholarship) to two dual-MP 2000+. Maybe I'll benchmark them both and compare... Itanium should be most impressive in molecular dynamics.

Don't really know what I'll be up to once my Graduation is finished, though. I don't know if I'm that excited with molecular dynamics...
 
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