"not to derail the thread but when i went to camp, cable did not even exist yet"
when I went to camp, the only phone was in the kitchen main area agaisnt a wall, and we only got 15 mins a week to speak to our parents.
.. and we did not really want to do that in the first place... " High mom, yes I am good.... see you next week love you.. click.."
independence and freedom of the parents.... TV ? pfft.. movies sure once a week on Friday in the kitchen area with 200 other camp goers.
and we did not pick the movie. lol