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Lots of places, I know, but are there any you
particularly recommend, or are there any to
particularly avoid?

I've seen many threads on ink quality, but
can you tell me how the ink holds up on a
tee shirt transfer?

Also, what is the difference between dye,
ink, and pigment?

Robin
 
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If you want to purchase it online, I would recommend newegg.com.
"Robin King" <mapletree@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Lots of places, I know, but are there any you
particularly recommend, or are there any to
particularly avoid?

I've seen many threads on ink quality, but
can you tell me how the ink holds up on a
tee shirt transfer?

Also, what is the difference between dye,
ink, and pigment?

Robin
 
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"Robin King" <mapletree@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Lots of places, I know, but are there any you
> particularly recommend, or are there any to
> particularly avoid?
>
> I've seen many threads on ink quality, but
> can you tell me how the ink holds up on a
> tee shirt transfer?
>
> Also, what is the difference between dye,
> ink, and pigment?
>
> Robin
>
Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to be more
fade resistant. They are a suspension of tiny particles of colored pigments
whereas the dye based inks are an aqueous solution of dyes. The dye based
inks, used in all the other inkjet printers, are rated as less fade
resistant. Longevity of the prints is the issue. Evaluation by Willhelm, a
testing firm, ranked the various manufacturers' inks by fade resistance, and
some company's dye based ink and paper combinations appear to be more fade
resistant than others. Canon also uses pigment based black ink for text
printing in several printers in their more recent lines, including the ip
5000, while using dye based inks for color printing. Buydig has the lowest
price on one of the price comparison sites and has a link for a Canon $20
rebate coupon. That coupon is available by googling "canon pixma printer
rebate coupon" , and it appears that it can be used for purchasing this
printer from any vendor. I have purchased several items, including
printers, from Amazon and have found them to be extremely reliable. I don't
know about Buydig, but someone on the NG may have some comments about this
vendor.
 
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"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Robin King" <mapletree@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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[snip]
>> Also, what is the difference between dye,
>> ink, and pigment?

> Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to be more
> fade resistant. They are a suspension of tiny particles of colored pigments
> whereas the dye based inks are an aqueous solution of dyes. The dye based
> inks, used in all the other inkjet printers, are rated as less fade
> resistant.

That is not quite true - most ever manufacturer has black pigment inks for
text. HP has color pigment ink for some printers, but not in the low end
consumer market.

Dye based inks can have lightfastness that is comparable to pigments - compare
the HP Photosmart 8450 (dye based) results at
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/hp/8450.html with the Epson R8000 at
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/R800.html.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
 
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"Robin King" <mapletree@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Lots of places, I know, but are there any you
> particularly recommend, or are there any to
> particularly avoid?
>
> I've seen many threads on ink quality, but
> can you tell me how the ink holds up on a
> tee shirt transfer?
>
> Also, what is the difference between dye,
> ink, and pigment?
>
> Robin
>


Where you are thinking of buying from?
 
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OEM INK SHOULD HOLD UP. BEST PLACE FOR THE PRINTER IS COSTCO

Robin King wrote:

> Lots of places, I know, but are there any you
>particularly recommend, or are there any to
>particularly avoid?
>
> I've seen many threads on ink quality, but
>can you tell me how the ink holds up on a
>tee shirt transfer?
>
> Also, what is the difference between dye,
>ink, and pigment?
>
>Robin
>
>
>
>
 
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"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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| Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to
be more
| fade resistant.

<snip of thorough explanation>|

Thank you for explaining it, Burt.

Now I was just wondering if the Canon colors
would last as long as the rest of the tee shirt!

Robin
 
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"HOJO" <ohmygosh@wowspam.com> wrote in message
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| If you want to purchase it online, I would recommend newegg.com.

Thanks! Yes, I would prefer to buy it online
from a reliable dealer. Will I need to buy a separate
USB cable, or does it come with the printer?

Robin
 
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Robin King wrote:
> "HOJO" <ohmygosh@wowspam.com> wrote in message
> news:xmfDe.11277$iG6.4575@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> | If you want to purchase it online, I would recommend newegg.com.
>
> Thanks! Yes, I would prefer to buy it online
> from a reliable dealer. Will I need to buy a separate
> USB cable, or does it come with the printer?
>
> Robin
>

I would assume it's the same here in Canada as it is in
the US of A - BYOB.

Sorry, no; that beer. Make that BYOC: Buy Your Own Cable.
Make sure it's long enough, depending on your placement.

-Taliesyn
 
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Bob Headrick wrote:

>"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
>
>>"Robin King" <mapletree@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>[snip]
>
>
>>> Also, what is the difference between dye,
>>>ink, and pigment?
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to be more
>>fade resistant. They are a suspension of tiny particles of colored pigments
>>whereas the dye based inks are an aqueous solution of dyes. The dye based
>>inks, used in all the other inkjet printers, are rated as less fade
>>resistant.
>>
>>
>
>
>

HEAR DAT BURTIE - N O T Q U I T E T R U E

>That is not quite true - most ever manufacturer has black pigment inks for
>text. HP has color pigment ink for some printers, but not in the low end
>consumer market.
>
>Dye based inks can have lightfastness that is comparable to pigments - compare
>the HP Photosmart 8450 (dye based) results at
>http://www.wilhelm-research.com/hp/8450.html with the Epson R8000 at
>http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/R800.html.
>
>Regards,
>Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
>
>
>
>
 
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Robin King wrote:

>"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>| Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to
>be more
>| fade resistant.
>
><snip of thorough explanation>|
>
> Thank you for explaining it, Burt.
>
> Now I was just wondering if the Canon colors
>would last as long as the rest of the tee shirt!
>
>Robin
>
>

DOESN'T THAT DEPEND ON THE QUALITY OF THE TEE SHIRT

>
>
>
>
>
 
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Robin King wrote:

>"HOJO" <ohmygosh@wowspam.com> wrote in message
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>| If you want to purchase it online, I would recommend newegg.com.
>
> Thanks! Yes, I would prefer to buy it online
>from a reliable dealer. Will I need to buy a separate
>USB cable, or does it come with the printer?
>
>Robin
>
>

COSTCO IS THE BEST PLACE. THE USB CABLE IS ADDITIONAL

>
>
>
 
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Taliesyn wrote:

> Robin King wrote:
>
>> "HOJO" <ohmygosh@wowspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:xmfDe.11277$iG6.4575@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> | If you want to purchase it online, I would recommend newegg.com.
>>
>> Thanks! Yes, I would prefer to buy it online
>> from a reliable dealer. Will I need to buy a separate
>> USB cable, or does it come with the printer?
>>
>> Robin
>>
>
> I would assume it's the same here in Canada as it is in
> the US of A - BYOB.
>
> Sorry, no; that beer. Make that BYOC: Buy Your Own Cable.
> Make sure it's long enough, depending on your placement.
>
> -Taliesyn


Is urs long enough
 
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"Bob Headrick" <bobh@proaxis.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:CLfDe.1111$Fk4.476@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>> "Robin King" <mapletree@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> news😛IeDe.13874$5N3.7969@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> [snip]
>>> Also, what is the difference between dye,
>>> ink, and pigment?
>
>> Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to be
>> more
>> fade resistant. They are a suspension of tiny particles of colored
>> pigments
>> whereas the dye based inks are an aqueous solution of dyes. The dye
>> based
>> inks, used in all the other inkjet printers, are rated as less fade
>> resistant.
>
> That is not quite true - most ever manufacturer has black pigment inks for
> text. HP has color pigment ink for some printers, but not in the low end
> consumer market.

Sorry, Bob, I should have narrowed my answer to that market niche. It
appears, from the OP question, that he was interested in the consumer
market. Regarding the relative fade resistance of different manufacturers'
dye based inks, I mentioned the Wilhelm (I misspelled it) research but
didn't have the links at my fingertips. Without going back and re-reading
that data I do recall that HP dye based inks were shown, in the reported
Wilhelm tests, to be more fade resistant than other mfgr's dye based inks,
and Canon (which I use) had a low rating for fade resistance when subjected
to their testing protocol.
>
> Dye based inks can have lightfastness that is comparable to pigments -
> compare the HP Photosmart 8450 (dye based) results at
> http://www.wilhelm-research.com/hp/8450.html with the Epson R8000 at
> http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/R800.html.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
>
>
 
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Burt wrote:

>"Bob Headrick" <bobh@proaxis.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>>"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>news:CLfDe.1111$Fk4.476@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>>
>>>"Robin King" <mapletree@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>
>>>> Also, what is the difference between dye,
>>>>ink, and pigment?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to be
>>>more
>>>fade resistant. They are a suspension of tiny particles of colored
>>>pigments
>>>whereas the dye based inks are an aqueous solution of dyes. The dye
>>>based
>>>inks, used in all the other inkjet printers, are rated as less fade
>>>resistant.
>>>
>>>
>>That is not quite true - most ever manufacturer has black pigment inks for
>>text. HP has color pigment ink for some printers, but not in the low end
>>consumer market.
>>
>>
>
> Sorry,
>

AH SO SO SORRY U NOW SA IT ALL DA TIME HA HA HA

>Bob, I should have narrowed my answer to that market niche. It
>appears, from the OP question, that he was interested in the consumer
>market. Regarding the relative fade resistance of different manufacturers'
>dye based inks, I mentioned the Wilhelm (I misspelled it) research but
>didn't have the links at my fingertips. Without going back and
>

>re-reading
>

I THINKU SHOULD

>
>that data I do recall that HP dye based inks were shown, in the reported
>Wilhelm tests, to be more fade resistant than other mfgr's dye based inks,
>and Canon (which I use) had a low rating for fade resistance when subjected
>to their testing protocol.
>
>
>>Dye based inks can have lightfastness that is comparable to pigments -
>>compare the HP Photosmart 8450 (dye based) results at
>>http://www.wilhelm-research.com/hp/8450.html with the Epson R8000 at
>>http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/R800.html.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
 
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measekite wrote:


>>
>
> IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS NG.
> ESPECIALLY BURTIE
>
>>
>>
>>
Wrongo bird brain. It's impossible to believe anything you ever say or
have said.
Frank
 
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Frank wrote:

> measekite wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>
>> IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS NG.
>> ESPECIALLY BURTIE
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Wrongo bird brain. It's impossible to believe anything you ever say or
> have said.
> Frank

righto bird brain. It's impossible to believe anything you ever say or
have said.