Which 1440p to choose

[TheMestudios]

Hey all I have a dilemma that you all might be able to solve. I was recently given a 1440p 144hz 1ms monitor as a gift. It is 27" and has good reviews on Amazon. The issue is that it is a free sync monitor. I have a gtx 1070 and so naturally am Interested in gsync. There is another monitor available in the same price point which is 24" 1440p 144hz 1ms but is gsync. Obviously returning products and that takes time away from the gaming fun.

My questions are: is g sync really worth exchanging for,
And is 24" noticeably sharper at this resolution than 27" as I have read in other threads.
TIA

 

[guanyu210379]

1. GSync is not worth exchanging for. I have been on XB270HU since about 2 years, this is my opinion especially if your PC can deliver high fps.
Just run the monitor on 144hz without any sync. 144Hz is the most important part, not the Sync. Just check first if the monitor can run on 144hz without FreeSync, if it does not, exchange it!
2. 1440p on 24" does not make any big sense if you are not sitting near enough to it. 27" is considered to be the most effective siize for 1440p. Having higher pixel density and if you are going to notice it, has something to do with viewing distance. If you can see difference between 24" and 27" for 1440p, you are actually sitting to near.

 

[TheMestudios]

1. GSync is not worth exchanging for. I have been on XB270HU since about 2 years, this is my opinion especially if your PC can deliver high fps.
Just run the monitor on 144hz without any sync. 144Hz is the most important part, not the Sync. Just check first if the monitor can run on 144hz without FreeSync, if it does not, exchange it!
2. 1440p on 24" does not make any big sense if you are not sitting near enough to it. 27" is considered to be the most effective siize for 1440p. Having higher pixel density and if you are going to notice it, has something to do with viewing distance. If you can see difference between 24" and 27" for 1440p, you are actually sitting to near.

Thanks for the response, my main concern is that I have no idea if I can maintain 144fps in all of my games, I have the 1070 paired with an fx 8350 with plans of going to an r5 1600x. I have never had this machine run at 1440p and have had some issues In poorly optimized games at 1080p 60hz.

Also how can I tell if it can do 144hz without freesync

Thanks

 

[turbopixel]

I can say that the GTX 1070 is strong enough for handling 144 fps on 1440p resolution. I am not sure about the cpu, as it is a bit old and can be bottleneck the gpu. But if you upgrade your cpu, then I don't see much of a problem. Competitive games are good to go at 144fps, but you cant at highest settings. For actual single player games, 144fps is a bit too high. So you have to lower the settings to "say" medium. But even if you get only 100fps, it is better than 60fps.

And if you really have problems with certain games, then you can lower the resolution on that game only. For test if your machine can handle the bigger resolution, try the DSR from Nvidia Settings. It simulates your machine higher resolution, your pc works as if it would have that higher resolution, but downscales it for displaying on lower resolution. This way you can see if your machine can handle it before you upgrade to a monitor with that resolution.

About G-Sync, some say its essential, some say its not. If you ever had tearing in games and you set V-Sync on, then you know how useful G-Sync can be. Because V-Sync on will introduce some input lag, which is important on fast paced online shooter, where you better V-Sync off. And here comes G-Sync, which will have low input lag like V-Sync off, but will have synced images like V-Sync on for eliminating tearing. Its up to you, it can't harm. Also, if you have V-Sync on say at 60hz/fps and your machine cant handle it, then your machine slows down. With G-Sync it can drop fps without having any slow down effect. Hopefully this wasn't confusing.

To me personally G-Sync is not essential, but a useful addition if you can get it. Now its up to you, if you want bigger monitor or G-Sync. I think, I would go with bigger display. But I am happy to have G-Sync too. Why don't you look at 1080p/144hz/27"/with gsync?

 

[TheMestudios]

I can say that the GTX 1070 is strong enough for handling 144 fps on 1440p resolution. I am not sure about the cpu, as it is a bit old and can be bottleneck the gpu. But if you upgrade your cpu, then I don't see much of a problem. Competitive games are good to go at 144fps, but you cant at highest settings. For actual single player games, 144fps is a bit too high. So you have to lower the settings to "say" medium. But even if you get only 100fps, it is better than 60fps.

And if you really have problems with certain games, then you can lower the resolution on that game only. For test if your machine can handle the bigger resolution, try the DSR from Nvidia Settings. It simulates your machine higher resolution, your pc works as if it would have that higher resolution, but downscales it for displaying on lower resolution. This way you can see if your machine can handle it before you upgrade to a monitor with that resolution.

About G-Sync, some say its essential, some say its not. If you ever had tearing in games and you set V-Sync on, then you know how useful G-Sync can be. Because V-Sync on will introduce some input lag, which is important on fast paced online shooter, where you better V-Sync off. And here comes G-Sync, which will have low input lag like V-Sync off, but will have synced images like V-Sync on for eliminating tearing. Its up to you, it can't harm. Also, if you have V-Sync on say at 60hz/fps and your machine cant handle it, then your machine slows down. With G-Sync it can drop fps without having any slow down effect. Hopefully this wasn't confusing.

To me personally G-Sync is not essential, but a useful addition if you can get it. Now its up to you, if you want bigger monitor or G-Sync. I think, I would go with bigger display. But I am happy to have G-Sync too. Why don't you look at 1080p/144hz/27"/with gsync?

Thanks for the response, so are you saying gsync feels like having vsync without tearing? Also when you say DSR do you mean super-sampling?

 

[turbopixel]

G-Sync is like V-Sync off without tearing. G-Sync is making the monitors refreshrate variable. Instead of V-Sync 60hz, G-Sync is like V-Sync with variable hz, changing monitors hz to what fps it is.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fghQh0Y4oA4

DSR is Nvidias Dynamic Super Resolution, I think it is Super Sampling.
> https://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dsr/technology

 

[TheMestudios]

Thanks for all your feedback I'll check into the things you guys have listed, any more suggestions will be welcome as it may take a few days to decide

 

[guanyu210379]

1. GSync is not worth exchanging for. I have been on XB270HU since about 2 years, this is my opinion especially if your PC can deliver high fps.
Just run the monitor on 144hz without any sync. 144Hz is the most important part, not the Sync. Just check first if the monitor can run on 144hz without FreeSync, if it does not, exchange it!
2. 1440p on 24" does not make any big sense if you are not sitting near enough to it. 27" is considered to be the most effective siize for 1440p. Having higher pixel density and if you are going to notice it, has something to do with viewing distance. If you can see difference between 24" and 27" for 1440p, you are actually sitting to near.

Thanks for the response, my main concern is that I have no idea if I can maintain 144fps in all of my games, I have the 1070 paired with an fx 8350 with plans of going to an r5 1600x. I have never had this machine run at 1440p and have had some issues In poorly optimized games at 1080p 60hz.
Yup! 144hz has no or non-visible screen tearing without VSync and even without FreeSync or GSync.
FreeSync and GSync on 144hz shines on lower fps. The technology makes the game appear smoother than without. higher fps is still smoother tho'.

Also how can I tell if it can do 144hz without freesync

Thanks

You do not have to maintain 144 fps on all game. You still gain the advantage of having 144Hz, even if your game runs on 40-60, namely on the VSync part, you can deactivate this annoying VSync for good on 144hz.
144hz means also that the monitor can go up to 144 fps.
144hz monitor has no or non-visible screen tearing without VSync and even without FreeSync or GSync.
The FreeSync and GSync shines however on lower fps as they make the game smoother compared to without them. (higher fps is still smoother than lower)
GTX1070 is not weak, it can deliver most today's game over 60 fps, many even at 144hz.
If you see lower fps, you can also lower the resolution of the game to 1080p or reduce the settings on other parts.

T check if it can run 144hz, the fastest thing is to go to NVidia control panel and set the resolution to 1440p 144hz. If you can not see this option, your monitor might disable 144hz on non-AMD graphic cards.
Before you check that, make sure you are using DP.

 

[TheMestudios]

Just as an update for all, went with the vsync 24" after trying the freesync 27" for a day or two, an am happy with the choice. To me the extra pixel density is nice and I enjoy the smaller screen due to not needing to turn my head as much. G-sync is you all mentioned noticeable but not as dramatic as I expected. It does make games feel a lot smoother at lower/ variable frames as I expected but not the difference between the freesync monitor wasn't huge. Thanks for all your help!

 

[guanyu210379]

You tried FreeSync? YOur GPU is from NVidia.
It should not be possible.
GSync is NVidia only and FreeSync is AMD only.
If you buy a FreeSync monitor and use NVidia GPU, you can only use VSync, Adaptive VSync and the other Sync from NVidia...I forgot the name.

 

[TheMestudios]

You tried FreeSync? YOur GPU is from NVidia.
It should not be possible.
GSync is NVidia only and FreeSync is AMD only.
If you buy a FreeSync monitor and use NVidia GPU, you can only use VSync, Adaptive VSync and the other Sync from NVidia...I forgot the name.

Hey, what I meant was that I used the other monitor without any sync settings on just to see what it was like to have 144hz in general and to play without vsync. I enjoyed it a lot but thought having some form of adaptive sync would be nice considering my weak CPU thus I returned the other monitor and ordered one with gsync and was aknowledging the other posters who said that it would make a difference but not a huge one. I didn't intend to imply that gsync was better than freesync or that I had used freesync with my 1070