[SOLVED] Which 4th gen PCIe SSD drive is better and more reliable etc

spikeysonic

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Which 4th gen PCIe SSD drive is better and more reliable etc (Note may go for a 1TB version of one of these to lower the system cost.

They seem similar in price and 2 seen to have the same specs. Also whihc brand has a better rep for this?


2TB Corsair Force MP600, M.2 (2280) PCIe 4.0 (x4) NVMe SSD, Phison, TLC 3D NAND, 4950MB/s Read, 4250MB/s Write,680k/600k

  • DRAM Cache Memory
  • AES 256-bit Encryption Support
  • Bad Block Management
  • Corsair SSD Toolbox Software Support
  • Custom Heatsink
  • Dynamic Wear-Leveling
  • Garbage Collection
  • S.M.A.R.T Support
  • Static Wear-Leveling
  • TRIM Support
  • Max. Endurance Rating - 3600TBW

  • MTBF - 1,700,000 Hours

  • Max. Random Read 4K - 680,000 IOPS


  • Max. Random Write 4K - 600,000 IOPS

  • Max. Operating Vibration - 20Hz~80Hz/1.52mm, 80Hz~2000Hz/20G

  • Max. NON Operating Vibration - 20Hz~80Hz/1.52mm, 80Hz~2000Hz/20G
or

2TB Seagate FireCuda 520, M.2 (2280) PCIe 4.0 (x4) NVMe SSD, 3D TLC, 5000MB/s Read, 4400MB/s, 750k/700k IOPS
LN103192

  • DRAM Cache Memory - Yes
  • Halogen-Free
  • RoHS Compliant
  • S.M.A.R.T Support
  • TRIM Support
  • Max. Endurance Rating - 2800TBW

  • MTBF - 1,800,000 Hours

  • Max. Random Read 4K - 760,000 IOPS

  • Max. Random Write 4K - 700,000 IOPS

  • Max. Operating Vibration - 20Hz~80Hz/1.52mm, 80Hz~2000Hz/20G

  • Max. NON Operating Vibration - 20Hz~80Hz/1.52mm, 80Hz~2000Hz/20G

2TB Gigabyte AORUS SSD, M.2 (2280) PCIe 4.0 (x4) NVMe SSD, 3D TLC, 5000MB/s Read, 4400MB/s Write, 750k/700k IOPS


  • DRAM Cache Memory 2gb
  • Full Body Copper Housing
  • LDPC ECC
  • Over-Provision
  • S.M.A.R.T Support
  • TRIM Support
  • Wear Leveling
  • Max. Endurance Rating - 3600TBW

  • MTBF - 1,700,000 Hours

  • Max. Random Read 4K - 750,000 IOPS

  • Max. Random Write 4K - 700,000 IOPS

  • Max. Operating Vibration - 20Hz~80Hz/1.52mm, 80Hz~2000Hz/20G

  • Max. NON Operating Vibration - 20Hz~80Hz/1.52mm, 80Hz~2000Hz/20G
This is to go in a 3rd gen Threadripper 3960x system, Trying to decide between the RSroc creator, or Taichi, the Gigabyte Designware or MSI Creator TRX40mother boards
 
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USAFRet

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That number is so far beyond regular consumer use....they might as well have stated 1 Bazillion TBW.

Among the drives you posted...I'd put money on no one being able to tell the difference in a properly constructed blind test.
No one.

Further, I'd put money on no one being able to tell the difference between one of those 4.0 drives, and a current PCIe 3.0 NVMe drive.
 
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^5 +1 what USAFRet says.

Currently I have 9 of the new PCIe 4.0 x 4, M.2 4.0 x 4, NVMe, solid state drives listed in the public service ssd database I maintain:

ADATA, XPG Gammix S50
Corsair, MP600
Galax, HOF Pro
Gigabyte, Aorus
Goodram, IRDM Ultimate X
Patriot, Viper VP4100
Sabrent, Rocket
Seagate, Firecuda 520
Team Force, Cardea Zero Z440

You mentioned that specifications were similar. In reality they are almost identical. All 9 of the ssd's use the same Phison PS5016-E16 controller; the same Toshiba 3D TLC flash memory; and a DDR4 memory cache that varies in size depending on the ssd capacity. Technical reviews that have been published also suggest specifications, performance, endurance, and warranties are identical.

I don't think we will see more PCIe 4.0 x 4 ssd's being released. Originally the PCIe standard was supposed to be upgraded every two years. Unfortunately the upgrade from PCIe 3.0 to PCIe 4.0 took a lot more than 2 years! The international organization responsible to developing PCIe standards is trying to catch up. This year PCIe 4.0 was finally released. PCIe 5.0 will be released next year and PCIe 6.0 will be released in 2021.

I have already read about a few new PCIe 5.0 products but they were all for the business enterprise side of the market.
 

spikeysonic

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Max. Endurance Rating 1800TBW

  • MTBF
  • 1,700,000 Hours

  • Max. Random Read 4K
  • 680,000 IOPS

  • Max. Random Write 4K
  • 600,000 IOPS

  • Max. Operating Vibration
  • 20Hz~80Hz/1.52mm, 80Hz~2000Hz/20G


  • Max. NON Operating Vibration
  • 20Hz~80Hz/1.52mm, 80Hz~2000Hz/20G

  • ^5 +1 what USAFRet says.

    Currently I have 9 of the new PCIe 4.0 x 4, M.2 4.0 x 4, NVMe, solid state drives listed in the public service ssd database I maintain:

    ADATA, XPG Gammix S50
    Corsair, MP600
    Galax, HOF Pro
    Gigabyte, Aorus
    Goodram, IRDM Ultimate X
    Patriot, Viper VP4100
    Sabrent, Rocket
    Seagate, Firecuda 520
    Team Force, Cardea Zero Z440

    You mentioned that specifications were similar. In reality they are almost identical. All 9 of the ssd's use the same Phison PS5016-E16 controller; the same Toshiba 3D TLC flash memory; and a DDR4 memory cache that varies in size depending on the ssd capacity. Technical reviews that have been published also suggest specifications, performance, endurance, and warranties are identical.

    I don't think we will see more PCIe 4.0 x 4 ssd's being released. Originally the PCIe standard was supposed to be upgraded every two years. Unfortunately the upgrade from PCIe 3.0 to PCIe 4.0 took a lot more than 2 years! The international organization responsible to developing PCIe standards is trying to catch up. This year PCIe 4.0 was finally released. PCIe 5.0 will be released next year and PCIe 6.0 will be released in 2021.

    I have already read about a few new PCIe 5.0 products but they were all for the business enterprise side of the market.
    Thanks, speed looked similar just
This stuff
  • DRAM Cache Memory 2gb
  • Full Body Copper Housing
  • LDPC ECC
  • Over-Provision
  • S.M.A.R.T Support
  • TRIM Support
  • Wear Leveling
and the iflops.... any little more reliabiity and longevity?

Or as you said same same and just marketing talk then?
 

USAFRet

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That number is so far beyond regular consumer use....they might as well have stated 1 Bazillion TBW.

Among the drives you posted...I'd put money on no one being able to tell the difference in a properly constructed blind test.
No one.

Further, I'd put money on no one being able to tell the difference between one of those 4.0 drives, and a current PCIe 3.0 NVMe drive.
 
Reactions: TJ Hooker

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