[SOLVED] Which AIB for 2070 Super is better

[noodleman250]

So I am finally deciding on a 2070 super for my rig (amd budget boys "5700 xT iS bEttEr) anyways, I was wondering which aftermaerket cooler is better. I would like to know about overclockability, temps, durability, and best in general. I have heard the msi gaming x trio is good as well as gigabyte oc budget is 600

 

[logainofhades]

They are all going to perform within 1-3% of each other. $600 on a 2070 super is a waste. Either save up another $100 for a 2080 super, or get one of the less expensive models, and pocket the rest/use on something else. Unless you are after some kind of specific look, I would go with anything more expensive than this one. It has a higher base, and boost clock, than others going for a similar price.

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card ($529.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $529.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-26 14:38 EDT-0400


If you are concerned with noise/thermals, then this would be sufficient, and cheaper.

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $499.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-26 14:40 EDT-0400

 

[heebobo5]

They are all going to perform within 1-3% of each other. $600 on a 2070 super is a waste. Either save up another $100 for a 2080 super, or get one of the less expensive models, and pocket the rest/use on something else. Unless you are after some kind of specific look, I would go with anything more expensive than this one. It has a higher base, and boost clock, than others going for a similar price.

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card ($529.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $529.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-26 14:38 EDT-0400


If you are concerned with noise/thermals, then this would be sufficient, and cheaper.

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $499.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-26 14:40 EDT-0400

Both of these are great options. I tend to lean toward ASUS but the Gigabyte WF does a great job as well.

 

[noodleman250]

I want a triple fan so I can cool it so it candle higher clocks, like the msi trio, gigabyte oc, strix all the big fat thick coolers. and which of these is the best gaming x trio, asus rog strix, or gaming oc from gigabyte, i plan overclocking alot so i need sufficient cooling

 

[noodleman250]

Gigabyte Gaming OC vs. msi gaming x trio, I don't care about noise but what I care about is how much I can overclock it and what the temperatures are like, I am only looking at these two cards (no other cards please) if any of you have one of these cards I would appreciate it if you shared your experience with them.

 

[Phaaze88]

Honestly, they're the same, or darn close. Pick whichever looks 'cooler' to you. I have the Gigabyte Gaming OC model.
1)The performance differences between the 2 are going to be irrelevant.

2)Nvidia's gpus can overclock without our... 'interference'. All you need to do is ensure the gpu gets adequate airflow and stays cool.

3)Good case cooling is more important for these cards than wanting to overclock, as their Gpu Boost algorithm is sensitive to temperature - so much so, that it has a few temperature thresholds. The hotter it runs, the less it'll boost. The first threshold starts around 60C, IIRC.
A manual OC will not fix this. It will still downclock if it feels cooling isn't adequate.

4)Only the Power Limit, Temp Limit, and Memory Clock is worth tweaking, as they're the only settings the gpu doesn't adjust on it's own.

5)The best overclockable gpu is one with a full cover waterblock + radiator on it. Seriously. That's the one part in the PC that sees the most gain from liquid cooling.
I'm aware you're only interested in 2 gpu models, but I chose to throw this tip in anyway.

 

[noodleman250]

Honestly, they're the same, or darn close. Pick whichever looks 'cooler' to you. I have the Gigabyte Gaming OC model.
1)The performance differences between the 2 are going to be irrelevant.

2)Nvidia's gpus can overclock without our... 'interference'. All you need to do is ensure the gpu gets adequate airflow and stays cool.

3)Good case cooling is more important for these cards than wanting to overclock, as their Gpu Boost algorithm is sensitive to temperature - so much so, that it has a few temperature thresholds. The hotter it runs, the less it'll boost. The first threshold starts around 60C, IIRC.
A manual OC will not fix this. It will still downclock if it feels cooling isn't adequate.

4)Only the Power Limit, Temp Limit, and Memory Clock is worth tweaking, as they're the only settings the gpu doesn't adjust on it's own.

5)The best overclockable gpu is one with a full cover waterblock + radiator on it. Seriously. That's the one part in the PC that sees the most gain from liquid cooling.
I'm aware you're only interested in 2 gpu models, but I chose to throw this tip in anyway.

Hm, are there any affordable AIO 5700 xt I don't feel like going through the hassle of doing a custom loop.

 

[noodleman250]

So I was wondering if it is even worth spending 50$ for an aftermarket card since alot of them have been marked up by low stock. My main questions are how much can the founders edition overclock and what are the temps it reaches under load non overclock and overclocked

 

[NightHawkRMX]

The founder's editions are pretty good for stock operation. Overclocking on a reference one will be a streatch. A lot of overclocking depends on silicon quality, so I can't say an exact number.

Here are in-depth temps and noise at stock:

View: https://youtu.be/a5-vCnUC7bM?t=1431

 

[envy14tpe]

I would only buy the FE if I was going to rip off the cooler and slap on a waterblock for custom cooling. The supposed benefit to FE is that they are binned and will give better performance under water.

However, temps and noise is important if you are using the FE cooler. And that is where the FE is weak. Aftermarket ones do a much better job. Look at the MSI 2070 Super Gaming X Trio. It is much better at handling noise and keeping temp down. (btw, its the one I plan to buy after going thru tons of reviews)

 

[noodleman250]

I would only buy the FE if I was going to rip off the cooler and slap on a waterblock for custom cooling. The supposed benefit to FE is that they are binned and will give better performance under water.

However, temps and noise is important if you are using the FE cooler. And that is where the FE is weak. Aftermarket ones do a much better job. Look at the MSI 2070 Super Gaming X Trio. It is much better at handling noise and keeping temp down. (btw, its the one I plan to buy after going thru tons of reviews)

If you're gonna get a 2070 super aftermarket just get the gigabyte gaming oc its cheaper and pretty much the same/ better

 

[noodleman250]

The founder's editions are pretty good for stock operation. Overclocking on a reference one will be a streatch. A lot of overclocking depends on silicon quality, so I can't say an exact number.

Here are in-depth temps and noise at stock:

View: https://youtu.be/a5-vCnUC7bM?t=1431

I thought overclocking was based on cooling perforance of the card, so higher clocks generate more heat but the aftermarket cooler dissipates better.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Overclocking is dependent on cooling and Silicon quality.

 

[noodleman250]

Overclocking is dependent on cooling and Silicon quality.

Aren't founders edition chips better silicon or binned higher than aftermarket ones?

 

[envy14tpe]

Aren't founders edition chips better silicon or binned higher than aftermarket ones?

supposedly yes, but the cooling isn't as good as a triple fan setup. Plus noise, check out reviews comparing MSI Trio vs FE, and you'll see what I mean.

 

[noodleman250]

supposedly yes, but the cooling isn't as good as a triple fan setup. Plus noise, check out reviews comparing MSI Trio vs FE, and you'll see what I mean.

Yeah I know but the whole reason i'm getting the 2070 super is value and reliability and with spending 70 more dollars the whole "value' aspect is out of the window.

 

[envy14tpe]

Yeah I know but the whole reason i'm getting the 2070 super is value and reliability and with spending 70 more dollars the whole "value' aspect is out of the window.

I too was set on 2070 super and thought about the FE in case I am able to water cool the gpu in the future. But in the meantime I'd have to deal with a noisy card, so I decided a good custom one is the way to go. And reviews have pointed at the MSI Trio as the quietest, I'd check that one out.

 

[savage8190]

MSI has the best cooling and is the quietest. It also has 8+8 power (can draw 375 watts).

Gaming OC also has good cooling (not quite as good as the MSI) and 8+6 power (300 watts). Also comes with an extra year of warranty.

Supposedly the higher wattage is better for overclocking but I'm no expert on this. Most things I've read have the GB within 1-3% of the MSI.

GB is cheaper in my area, I'd be tempted to go with that for the extra year of warranty.

I've been debating the 2070 super, and I have the Aorus on preorder...but the 5700 XT is like 150-200 dollars cheaper here...might just go that route.