Which B450m I should get ?

[onurcevik000]

I will build this system soon:

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  Ryzen 3 2200G
  8GB 3000Mhz Ram(Will buy another 8 gb soon)
  GIGABYTE 1050Ti

and B450M as MotherBoard. But I can't decide between ASUS PRIME B450M-K and MSI B450M PRO-M2

I know that ASUS have better bios and MSI has better heatsinks.

I'm not sure but I might OC this system. So which B450M I should get?

 

[drea.drechsler]

Neither one are going to be serious overclocking boards as they both lack any heatsinks...even the MSI so that takes away the advantage you gave for it. They look very similar...I'd go for the Asus on strength of BIOS reputation alone. Although, this being very much a budget model there may not be much in the BIOS to talk about.

I'd suggest not getting the 1050TI and with money saved step up to a serious motherboard board and a 2400G. The Vega 11 graphics in it may not be quite as good GPU performance as a 1050TI but that 2200 CPU wasn't going to help much anyways. And this way you'll be well situated for upgrading to a potent GPU in the future, 1060TI or even 1070TI, followed by a a serious CPU, 2600 or even Zen2, all without having to deal with the frustrations of a hopelessly crippled and compromised motherboard. As with all things in life, build a good foundation and think of the future.

 

[onurcevik000]

Neither one are going to be serious overclocking boards as they both lack any heatsinks...even the MSI so that takes away the advantage you gave for it. They look very similar...I'd go for the Asus on strength of BIOS reputation alone. Although, this being very much a budget model there may not be much in the BIOS to talk about.

I'd suggest not getting the 1050TI and with money saved step up to a serious motherboard board and a 2400G. The Vega 11 graphics in it may not be quite as good GPU performance as a 1050TI but that 2200 CPU wasn't going to help much anyways. And this way you'll be well situated for upgrading to a potent GPU in the future, 1060TI or even 1070TI, followed by a a serious CPU, 2600 or even Zen2, all without having to deal with the frustrations of a hopelessly crippled and compromised motherboard. As with all things in life, build a good foundation and think of the future.

Sadly I already have 1050 Tİ. I bough it last year. My HDD got broken last month so I decided to buy a new system with my saved money which is not much.

So how much extra FPS do you think overclocking this system would give me ? If its not worth it I'd rather not do it and save up money until I get a new system 2 or 3 years later.

 

[drea.drechsler]

Sadly I already have 1050 Tİ. I bough it last year. My HDD got broken last month so I decided to buy a new system with my saved money which is not much.

So how much extra FPS do you think overclocking this system would give me ? If its not worth it I'd rather not do it and save up money until I get a new system 2 or 3 years later.

A 1050TI is still pretty decent so it's nothing to be to sad about having I'm not sure how much you're looking to spend on the board, but if you could swing just a little more for an Asrock B450m Pro4 (which is still pretty cheap) you'll get a very good overclocking board.

Even un-overclocked the Pro4 board, with a cool running VRM, will allow the processor to sustain boosts to it's turbo speed of 3.7G longer but it should also be able to get you an overclock to 3.8-3.9G pretty easily, 4.0G if you're really tenacious. All-core, full-time, not just turboing one core. Overclocking will be important as I imagine a 2200 CPU limited to stock (3.5G) could bottleneck even a 1050TI in complex areas at 1080p. I couldn't say how many more FPS but it may be the difference in smooth 1080p gaming at medium to high instead of low to medium settings in triple-A titles. High, and definitely Ultra, will be dicey though, and unplayable for complex scenes, just because it is afterall a 1050TI.

Oh, and one thought: I'm not sure 8more GB of ram will buy you much. Especially if that means loading up all 4 DIMM sockets as that loads the memory controller and limits memory clock speed potential. It probably depends on the game title though.

 

[onurcevik000]

Sadly I already have 1050 Tİ. I bough it last year. My HDD got broken last month so I decided to buy a new system with my saved money which is not much.

So how much extra FPS do you think overclocking this system would give me ? If its not worth it I'd rather not do it and save up money until I get a new system 2 or 3 years later.

A 1050TI is still pretty decent so it's nothing to be to sad about having I'm not sure how much you're looking to spend on the board, but if you could swing just a little more for an Asrock B450m Pro4 (which is still pretty cheap) you'll get a very good overclocking board.

Even un-overclocked the Pro4 board, with a cool running VRM, will allow the processor to sustain boosts to it's turbo speed of 3.7G longer but it should also be able to get you an overclock to 3.8-3.9G pretty easily, 4.0G if you're really tenacious. All-core, full-time, not just turboing one core. Overclocking will be important as I imagine a 2200 CPU limited to stock (3.5G) could bottleneck even a 1050TI in complex areas at 1080p. I couldn't say how many more FPS but it may be the difference in smooth 1080p gaming at medium to high instead of low to medium settings in triple-A titles. High, and definitely Ultra, will be dicey though, and unplayable for complex scenes, just because it is afterall a 1050TI.

Oh, and one thought: I'm not sure 8more GB of ram will buy you much. Especially if that means loading up all 4 DIMM sockets as that loads the memory controller and limits memory clock speed potential. It probably depends on the game title though.

Thanks for your answer. Since its not that expensive I'll try to go for Asrock. If I can't Ill go for ASUS since I will graduate and get a job soon I'll probably upgrade my system in 1-2 year anyway.

 

[drea.drechsler]

Hope you can get it as that Asrock board is a very good motherboard and AMD has promised to support the socket until 2020 at least. In 1 year it will still form the foundation of an excellent system and probably so even 2 years out. Upgrade the processor to a 2600 (or whatever Zen2 processor works by then), trade the 1050 up to a 2070ti (I kinda doubt 1080ti's will be available by then and 2080ti's probably still won't be worth their cost).

 

[onurcevik000]

Hope you can get it as that Asrock board is a very good motherboard and AMD has promised to support the socket until 2020 at least. In 1 year it will still form the foundation of an excellent system and probably so even 2 years out. Upgrade the processor to a 2600 (or whatever Zen2 processor works by then), trade the 1050 up to a 2070ti (I kinda doubt 1080ti's will be available by then and 2080ti's probably still won't be worth their cost).

Is AMD's promise to support the socket only for ASROCK model ? or doest it apply to MSI , ASUS, GIGABYTE as well ?

 

[drea.drechsler]

Hope you can get it as that Asrock board is a very good motherboard and AMD has promised to support the socket until 2020 at least. In 1 year it will still form the foundation of an excellent system and probably so even 2 years out. Upgrade the processor to a 2600 (or whatever Zen2 processor works by then), trade the 1050 up to a 2070ti (I kinda doubt 1080ti's will be available by then and 2080ti's probably still won't be worth their cost).

Is AMD's promise to support the socket only for ASROCK model ? or doest it apply to MSI , ASUS, GIGABYTE as well ?

AMD's support will be to any AM4 socketed motherboard regardless of board manufacturer. I take the meaning of that to be they'll make new processors that will upgrade into the socket on existing AM4 board/chipsets and provide the AGESA code updates necessary for operating that processor with the chipsets to the board partners.

This contrasts with Intel's policy, which is a new processor generation usually needs a new chipset and socket necessitating a new motherboard even if it adds no inherent enhancements.

I think it would be insane for any board partner not to support this in the form of BIOS updates to their existing products. I also have to think AMD would frown on it since that's one of their major marketing push points and kind of breaks with the whole concept of being a 'board partner' in the first place.