Discussion which build should i go for , one with i3-8100 or i5-7500 ?

nadiiroo

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hello Guys , so i'm into building a gaming PC these days , but i have some criteria that i want to shape the build with .

So recently i started relating to gaming , but i'm not a big of a gamer and i classify my self as a casual gamer, so recently i started plying League of legends in like 2k15 and i always felt so limited when it comes to FPS until i've got my LAPTOP in 2k16 which made things feels better for that time but days goes by and i feel that a laptop is something that doesn't allow me to be variant and customise my RIG how ever i want .. so i'm willing to build my FIRST " GAMING "PC in 2k19 . So Since i classify my self as a casual gamer i havce my own condition and thoughts of building this PC and they goes as the following :

1 - i want the cheapest PC BUILD i can have with some decent stable FPS output with a minimum of 100 FPS in some fo the modern games (like League of Legends , Fortnite ... PES or FIFA things like that )

2 - i want an upgrade-able build that i wont regret starting with it , which means that it wont be that outdated later on in like 5 years or even more (that would still compete).

3 - I dont want any overkill builds like extreme RGB lighting with 850W PSU thing with CPU overclock to 5Ghz with an overclocked RTX2080ti and 3000Mhz overclocked DDR4 stuff, no no no .. i just want to build a PC piece by piece until i get a good base stats gaming PC

4 - i'm willing to build a PC delaying the GPU for last to save money for it

First of All that my current build " or let say set up (smh) "

DELL 3537 Inspiron 15 :

CPU : i5-4200U 1.6Ghz (Turbo Boost to 2.6Ghz)
RAM : 2x4GB DDR3-1600Mhz
GPU : AMD Radeon HD 8670M - 1GB
STORAGE : Segate 1TB HDD 5400 RPM

so here are two build that i'm willing to take one of them :

Reminder : if you see any misplaced thoughts let me know in each build i'm

Build 1 : 8th Gen Processor on a B 300 series Mobo with DDR4

CPU : i3-8100 3.6 Ghz
Mobo : B motherboard because i'm not into overclocking and i want a system that games pretty well with base stats , 300 Series because it supports 8th Gen and it allows for DDR4 and DDR4 would still be good for 5 years further ..
RAM : 1x8GB DDR4-2400Mhz or 2100Mhz
STORAGE : use the current ( Segate 1TB HDD 5400 RPM)
PSU : i might go for a 300W or 400W since i dont need that much.
GPU : i'll upgrade later when i get a decent GPU like a 1050 or 1060 (willing for the 1060 guess is better)

case i guess i'll limit my self to a cheap MicroATX one since i wont be including a GPU in build temporarily



Build 2 : 7th Gen Processor on a B 200 series Mobo with DDR4

CPU : i5-7500 3.4 Ghz (Turbo Boost = 3.8Ghz)
Mobo : B motherboard because i'm not into overclocking and i want a system that games pretty well with base stats , 200 Series because it supports 7th Gen and is DDR4 capable would still be good for 5 years further and in case i want to upgrade for 8th Gen i might do a BIOS upgrade so it can support 8th Gen later on ?
RAM : 1x8GB DDR4-2400Mhz or 2100Mhz
STORAGE : use the current ( Segate 1TB HDD 5400 RPM)
PSU : i might go for a 300W or 400W since i dont need that much.
GPU : i'll upgrade later when i'll save for a decent GPU like a 1050 or 1060 (willing for the 1060 guess is better)


Now my Question :

a - will i be able to game at 1080p more than 60 after i get a decent GPU , and for the case of League of Legends i guess it can do it easily as you can see it here in this clip :
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx5MYhIpFB4
, well it does even better than my current LAPTOP.

b - would i be able to stream at least 720p 60FPS and can i even stream 1080p 60FPS i can't do the 1080p then what should i do with one of the build so i can do so ?
 

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  1. Get a 2x4GB kit of RAM if 8GB is your budget.
  2. With a Z-series mobo, you can run >2400MHz RAM. Pick a board with 4 RAM slots. 2x8GB DDR4-3000 = $85
  3. Get an SSD. The Crucial MX500 500GB for $50-55 is a perennial favorite.
  4. Get a 550W PSU. EVGA G3 550W = $60 on sale.
Although both the i3-8100 and i5-7500 have the same # cores, I'd get the i3-8100 simply because the mobo will support the 8 and 9 series, so if you decide to upgrade CPU later, you can get more coarz compared to 7th gen. When paired with a dGPU, the i3-8100 is faster than the Ryzen 2200G/2400G too.

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Get the i3 8100 with an H310 or B360 motherboard. The two CPUs will perform the same, but you'll have a better upgrade path with the i3. 200 series (7th gen) motherboards are not compatible with 8th gen CPUs. AMD Ryzen is an option too, especially if you're planning on using integrated graphics for a while (better integrated graphics than Intel CPUs have).

If you go with Intel, I'd get 2x8 GB 2400 MHz RAM. 8 GB is basically the minimum these days, and if you try to add more down the road it's not guaranteed to work with the RAM you have. You ideally want to get a kit with two sticks so you can run dual channel.

I'd get at least a 450 or 550 W PSU. The price difference is minimal compared to any decent 300-400 W unit, and will allow you to upgrade to any midrange card in the future.

Do you live in the US? What's your budget?
 

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  1. Get a 2x4GB kit of RAM if 8GB is your budget.
  2. With a Z-series mobo, you can run >2400MHz RAM. Pick a board with 4 RAM slots. 2x8GB DDR4-3000 = $85
  3. Get an SSD. The Crucial MX500 500GB for $50-55 is a perennial favorite.
  4. Get a 550W PSU. EVGA G3 550W = $60 on sale.
Although both the i3-8100 and i5-7500 have the same # cores, I'd get the i3-8100 simply because the mobo will support the 8 and 9 series, so if you decide to upgrade CPU later, you can get more coarz compared to 7th gen. When paired with a dGPU, the i3-8100 is faster than the Ryzen 2200G/2400G too.

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Budget?
thanks for quick reply mate ...how about 500 Bronze 80 plus PSU and getting only 1 stick of 8Gb that would be cheaper so if i want to reach the 16Gb in 2 rounds and maybe even go for 4x 8Gb in case i want to learn video and photo editing with my RIG

for the country : i'm from Algeria
and i dont want to go further than 70,000 DZD equivalent of 680 USD
 

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Get the i3 8100 with an H310 or B360 motherboard. The two CPUs will perform the same, but you'll have a better upgrade path with the i3. 200 series (7th gen) motherboards are not compatible with 8th gen CPUs. AMD Ryzen is an option too, especially if you're planning on using integrated graphics for a while (better integrated graphics than Intel CPUs have).

If you go with Intel, I'd get 2x8 GB 2400 MHz RAM. 8 GB is basically the minimum these days, and if you try to add more down the road it's not guaranteed to work with the RAM you have. You ideally want to get a kit with two sticks so you can run dual channel.

I'd get at least a 450 or 550 W PSU. The price difference is minimal compared to any decent 300-400 W unit, and will allow you to upgrade to any midrange card in the future.

Do you live in the US? What's your budget?
i live in algeria and i dont want to go past 70,000 DZD or 680 USD but in my country things are very expensive due to the lack of the mats
 
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TJ Hooker

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Is there a big difference between a 200-400 W PSU and a 450-550 W PSU there? Keep in mind that a lot of cheap units around 300-400W are probably going to be junk that you probably don't want to buy. If 16 GB of RAM costs too much you could go with 8GB. It'll be a little tight, especially given that integrated graphics will be using system memory for VRAM as well, but you should be OK. I would definitely try to get a dual channel kit though. Dual channel is extra important if using integrated graphics.
 

nadiiroo

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ok so i might go for a 550W PSU as a decent minimium but for the ram i'm willing to start with 8Gb and save up to a 16Gb a bit later on ok ?
... but here in ALGERIA in my whereabouts i saw that 1 stick of 8GB is cheaper than buying 2x4GB so i was willing to get 2 sticks of dual channel 8Gb to be in more than an ease .. and maybe that would allow me to sit down with out a decent gpu for a while ... and i might go for a Z MoBo so i can change the VRAM how ever i want ... what'd you think about my tough ...

struggle a bit with 1 stick of 8GB of ram so i can reach 16GB in two strikes or should i go with 4 sticks of 4GB and that would definetily take some time because a 4Gb is a big coasty and my 8gb would coast more than buying only 1 stick of 8 ..

let me know my dears
 
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How much would a AMD Ryzen APU (e.g. Ryzen 3 2200G) + B450 motherboard cost you? Better integrated graphics than the Intel, and you don't need an expensive Z series motherboard to run fast RAM.

How big is the price difference between 1x8 and 2x4GB?

Edit: If possible, could you provide a link to an online retailer that operates in your area, so we could get an idea of what prices are like for you?
 

nadiiroo

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long story short .. we dont have these type of online retailers like amazon but according to one of algerian business forum the AMD ryzen 3 2200g coasts like 18,900DZD and it certainly would go higher in 2019 maybe like 25,000DZD in dollars it becomes like 200 USD and i3 8100 is like 29,500DZD

and for the RAM i check the pricing , the 4Gb i dont know the frequency coaste like 8200DZD and the 8Gb coasts like 14900DZD and these pricing were from an actual tech shop .. and it was based on december 2018 i dont think it would go higher
 

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