Question Which case and water or air cooler?

[Ems1661]

Hi guys.

Sorry for opening a topic again. I dont really know about building a gaming pc since its my first time.

My specs are going to be:

Ryzen 2600
2x8gb corsair vengeace lpx
B450 carbon pro ac
Sapphire pulse radeon RX vega 56

Now the question is the vega 56 i heared it consumes more power and can produce more heat.

So will i need a water cooler or just air cooler? If water cooler which case should i get and is easy to build? Thanks.

 

[Ems1661]

I dont recommand those fans I recommand : https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-F1...ck+noctua+fan&qid=1550354453&s=gateway&sr=8-3

both of the 2 suck

Oh will check it out thanks!

 

[Karadjgne]

BeQuiet Silentwings 3 are also very good, but like the Noctua, slightly on the more expensive side for a case fan. For budget fans that work very well there's the Arctic F12. I'd suggest if getting case fans, you first look at the motherboard headers. Some motherboards use 4pin PWM, some still have 3pin. So match up the pin settings. You can usually use either, either way, but it does make using splitters or swapping fans around easier if they are alike.

Really not a fan (no pun intended) of Corsair fans, to get any real performance out of them usually requires high rpm, which translates as faster = noisier. You can get equitable performance out of a Noctua for half the speed, @900rpm or below is almost silent.

 

[Ems1661]

BeQuiet Silentwings 3 are also very good, but like the Noctua, slightly on the more expensive side for a case fan. For budget fans that work very well there's the Arctic F12. I'd suggest if getting case fans, you first look at the motherboard headers. Some motherboards use 4pin PWM, some still have 3pin. So match up the pin settings. You can usually use either, either way, but it does make using splitters or swapping fans around easier if they are alike.

Really not a fan (no pun intended) of Corsair fans, to get any real performance out of them usually requires high rpm, which translates as faster = noisier. You can get equitable performance out of a Noctua for half the speed, @900rpm or below is almost silent.

Oh another great info! Is it to cool my motherboard or where are the motherboard placed in case? Does it count as rear or front panel etc.

Btw my motherboard has 6 fan headers.

 

[Karadjgne]

On your motherboard are between 2-6 connectors where you can plug fans in. 1 guaranteed connector is near the socket somewhere and will be labeled (in really small letters) cpu_fan. That's where the cpu cooler fan must! be plugged in. Other headers will be labeled sys_fan or cas_fan or similar. This is where your case fans will be plugged into. There are often auxiliaries like cpu_aux or cpu_pump etc that are for other uses, but can also be used for fans. Many times these are direct 12v and not controlled, so fans spin 100% at all times. Guaranteed the cpu_fan will be 4pin PWM, other sys_fan or cas_fan headers can be varied, either 3 or 4pin. If 4pin, get 4pin PWM fans, not 3pin. The 3pin will work fine, but stand a good chance of no speed control. And vice-versa.

 

[Ems1661]

On your motherboard are between 2-6 connectors where you can plug fans in. 1 guaranteed connector is near the socket somewhere and will be labeled (in really small letters) cpu_fan. That's where the cpu cooler fan must! be plugged in. Other headers will be labeled sys_fan or cas_fan or similar. This is where your case fans will be plugged into. There are often auxiliaries like cpu_aux or cpu_pump etc that are for other uses, but can also be used for fans. Many times these are direct 12v and not controlled, so fans spin 100% at all times. Guaranteed the cpu_fan will be 4pin PWM, other sys_fan or cas_fan headers can be varied, either 3 or 4pin. If 4pin, get 4pin PWM fans, not 3pin. The 3pin will work fine, but stand a good chance of no speed control. And vice-versa.

Hey thanks for your respond! Cant really find which pin my motherboard has. I have the b450 carbon pro ac. Would you recommend me getting 120mm silent wings 3 on it? Thanks.

 

[Karadjgne]

With the NZXT H500, I'd move the included 120mm to top-rear, and stick 2x of any of these at intake.
Case Fan: ARCTIC - Arctic F14 PWM 77.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($8.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Phanteks - PH-F140SP_BK 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: be quiet! - SilentWings 3 pwm 59.5 CFM 140mm Fan ($26.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140mm Fan ($24.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Phanteks - PH-F140HP II 68.1 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.99 @ Newegg Business)

 

[Karadjgne]

Oh, and all your headers are 4 pin

 

[Ems1661]

With the NZXT H500, I'd move the included 120mm to top-rear, and stick 2x of any of these at intake.
Case Fan: ARCTIC - Arctic F14 PWM 77.3 CFM 140mm Fan ($8.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Phanteks - PH-F140SP_BK 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: be quiet! - SilentWings 3 pwm 59.5 CFM 140mm Fan ($26.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140mm Fan ($24.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Phanteks - PH-F140HP II 68.1 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.99 @ Newegg Business)

Thank you very much again! So im planning to get 2x 140mm for intake since theres already 2 included 120mm and put them on rear and top. But should i get one more for cpu? Thanks

 

[Ems1661]

Oh and Silent Wings 3 made me really interesting since it very queit but from what i see in review it doesnt really push air so im affraid the case could get heat. What should i do?

 

[Karadjgne]

Ignore the stats as is. They can fool a person. You can run those Silentwings at full speed and still be quieter than most fans. Those stats represent maximum speed value, so another fan getting 77cfm might have more airflow, but be 30db, whereas the silent wings gets 60cfm at 19db. With fan curves, they are not linear, no straight lines, so that other fan at 50% speed does not get 50%cfm, or 34cfm, it might get just 20cfm at half speed and not getting the 77cfm until close to max speed and max volume.

Cpu coolers come with included fans, no need to buy extra there, just the 2x 140mm for front intake.

My fans are 2x 140mm intake and 1x140mm exhaust. At idle they spin at 400rpm, gaming is @650rpm and stress test is 1100rpm. They are silent mostly except under stress test. All you really need is air Flow, not gale force winds inside the case. A good, smooth flow is far better than ragged push/pull. 120cfm from the Silentwings is still more than the 2x 120mm exhausts can deal with, so it's not really an issue, you'll not be running your case fans at full speed for the most part.

 

[Ems1661]

Ignore the stats as is. They can fool a person. You can run those Silentwings at full speed and still be quieter than most fans. Those stats represent maximum speed value, so another fan getting 77cfm might have more airflow, but be 30db, whereas the silent wings gets 60cfm at 19db. With fan curves, they are not linear, no straight lines, so that other fan at 50% speed does not get 50%cfm, or 34cfm, it might get just 20cfm at half speed and not getting the 77cfm until close to max speed and max volume.

Cpu coolers come with included fans, no need to buy extra there, just the 2x 140mm for front intake.

My fans are 2x 140mm intake and 1x140mm exhaust. At idle they spin at 400rpm, gaming is @650rpm and stress test is 1100rpm. They are silent mostly except under stress test. All you really need is air Flow, not gale force winds inside the case. A good, smooth flow is far better than ragged push/pull. 120cfm from the Silentwings is still more than the 2x 120mm exhausts can deal with, so it's not really an issue, you'll not be running your case fans at full speed for the most part.

Alright ill get the silent wings 3 then thanks! Maybe im worrying too much like an idiot. Again thanks for the great help!