which charger?

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I just purchased a used Nokia 5160i and noticed that it uses either a 3.6V
NiMH or Li-ion battery. The charger supplied with the unit is, apparently,
not the charger that Nokia recommends, although I've used it a couple of
times. I see that there are several chargers recommended for this unit, and
wonder if the charger for my Kyocera 6035 Smartphone, which also uses a 3.6V
Li-ion battery, will work OK for the Nokia. The advantage is probably
faster charging time, and the fact that I already have a car charger for the
Smartphone. The polarities seem to be the same, and the Kyocera charger is
a "rapid travel charger" so works with a broader range of input voltages.
Output voltage for the Kyocera charger is 4.2V at 1.0A while output voltage
for the charger supplied (which is actually for a massager) is 2.8V at
320mA.

Is the Kyocera charger compatible? Can I use it with the Nokia? Can I used
the car charger as well, if it has a comparable output? What are the
limits?

Thanks in advance.



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[Joseph]

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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:19:26 GMT, "Freewheeling"
<email_at_bottomofpost@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>Is the Kyocera charger compatible? Can I use it with the Nokia? Can I used
>the car charger as well, if it has a comparable output? What are the
>limits?

The "standard" Nokia charger ACP-7U is 3.7 volts though some units
can use the ACP-12U rapid charger that charges at 5.7 volts. I was
under the impression that Kyocera used a different input probe for the
phone than Nokia. Nokia uses a "standard" low voltage socket while
other manufacturers use different sockets/contacts.

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Josheph:

The plug/connector does seem a bit "wiggly," but it works. The device
starts charging when its connected. That's not too suprising since both
batteries are 3.6V, but I'm mainly concerned about the difference between
NiMH and Li-ion. What's the amperage rating on the Rapid Charger?

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> On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:19:26 GMT, "Freewheeling"
> <email_at_bottomofpost@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> >Is the Kyocera charger compatible? Can I use it with the Nokia? Can I
used
> >the car charger as well, if it has a comparable output? What are the
> >limits?
>
> The "standard" Nokia charger ACP-7U is 3.7 volts though some units
> can use the ACP-12U rapid charger that charges at 5.7 volts. I was
> under the impression that Kyocera used a different input probe for the
> phone than Nokia. Nokia uses a "standard" low voltage socket while
> other manufacturers use different sockets/contacts.
>
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 07:42:28 GMT, "Freewheeling"
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>What's the amperage rating on the Rapid Charger?

800 mA

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Some rather odd behavior. When I plug in the Kyocera charger the charging
indicator on the Nokia scrolls, so I assumed it was charging. I let it
scroll for about six hours, but when I checked no charge had been built up
at all. Then I plugged in the jury-rigged charger that came with the used
device, and even though the charging indicator never scrolled, the battery
charged to full capacity.

So I'm wondering why I'd get a charging indicator but no charge with one
charger, and no indicated but a charge with the other? Could it be a matter
of the connector? Neither connector is really "just right" in terms of fit.
The Kyocera fits very loosely, with lots of "wiggle." The jury-rigged
charger fits so tightly it's hard to even push in.

And ideas?


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> On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 07:42:28 GMT, "Freewheeling"
> <email_at_bottomofpost@bigfoot.com> wrote:
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> >What's the amperage rating on the Rapid Charger?
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> 800 mA
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[Grim0x]

NECRO.

But I'll post it for the benefit of some googling soul.

Many cell phones have a protection system. The nokia probably activated its resistors to protect the foreign (higher) voltage from coming through.

Sony ericsson for example, will charge for a while, then tell you to plug the charger out immediatly |citing a "charging error", in a simmiliar situation.


I'm using a standard -70 nokia charger to charge my kyocera right now. Just decided to revive this old phone, which has been put down for years now.

The battery charge indicator doesnt move - and the phone moves REALLY slouchy while it is being charged (imagine my suprise when I removed the charger, and everything started working fine).

It took a while for ANYTHING to happen really.

From the behaviour of the charging I suspect hhat the kyocera is accustomed to LESS current, than the ACP-70 is emitting.

But it works for now.