Which cpu should I get ? Ryzen 5 1600 or ryzen 7 1700 ?

[guilherme_furlanzinho]

Hello friends,

I would like to know which cpu should I go for, ryzen 5 1600, ryzen 5 1600x or even ryzen 7 1700 ? The price here is very similar and all of them will fit my budget perfectly.

Also would you help me with the situation below ?
My current system specs:
Cpu: i5 3300 (stock CPU cooler)
GPU: Rx 580 8gb (sapphire black version)
Mobo: Asus h61m-c
Ram: 8 gb 1888 MHz (ddr3)
Power supply: cx (Gray version) 550w
Storage: 2 hds of 500gb each

This old build often crashes on games, and goes bluescreen (I don't know the source of the problem, if it's too old or whatsover)

So I'm looking for a new build and would be like below:
Cpu: to be confirmed (depends on which you help me to decide)
GPU: stays the same
Mobo: Should I get a320 version or b350 version ? (I'll not overclock and actually I'm not sure the difference between these two)
Ram: I'm looking for 16gb, should I get 1x16 or 2x8 ? Also what ram frequency should I get ? 2400, 2666 or 3000 MHz ?
Power supply: Would stay the same, is this one enough ?
Storage: the same

Do you think with this new build my games would stop crashing ?

Also thinking of buying a SSD, please let me know if those specs are worth buying and would really worth it investing my money on it =)

Thanks!

 

[kiss-method]

Crashing on blue screen would point towards software issues, but also, depends which games you play.

An SSD would greatly increase the enjoyment of using your system with extremely faster loading times. As per cpu, the 1600 should do well, 1600x is just the cream of the crop of the 1600s but nearly the same. 1700 would be something everyone would tell you to go for, but it may not be complete useable for you. And for motherboard, I don't remember off the top of my head which one you're supposed to take but you should decide that when you decide on your cpu.


Btw, which country do you live in?

 

[camieabz]

If the eight-core aspect of the Ryzen 7 is something you want, then you know the answer. Other than that, there's little point to get the 1700 over the 1600 / 1600x. The 1600x will give better potential single-core performance though (over both 1600 AND 1700).

Your GPU will be maxed out with all of these CPUs if games are very demanding, so there's an argument to go to the 1600 if price were an issue (but apparently it isn't). Based on all this, I would suggest the 1600x, and there's always the option to upgrade the GPU eventually, although the RX580 should be pretty good for 1080p gaming.

I recommend the B350. While you're not overclocking, the Ryzen chips like to run on faster than SPD RAM (2,666Mhz if possible). You'll probably get more flexibility with getting the most from your RAM with the B350 mobos (but am happy to be proved wrong on this by anyone).

So that said, I suggest 2666 or 3000 RAM, and I suggest 2 x 8GB sticks on a four-slot mobo in dual channel.

Since you're changing mobo, you'll be doing a fresh install, so I recommend an SSD for boot, such as a Crucial MX500 or Samsung 850 Evo. Or if you want, you could go for an M.2 boot drive, such as an Adata SX8200.

 

[guilherme_furlanzinho]

Hello friend,

To be serious I'm really thinking of going for the ryzen 7, since I'll play a few heavy and news games (the one I'm currently playing is Black ops 4), while listening to music, watching streams and talking with a few friends, also navegating and so on ...
As the speed is almost the same, also the price I would say the ryzen 7 is better since it has more cores and threads isn:'t it ?

 

[guilherme_furlanzinho]

Hello Cami,

I don't know what's the price of these CPUs outside there but here in Brazil the more expensive one is the ryzen 6 1600x, so I would only go for it if it is really worth it.
About the GPU I also think it's fine because I can't afford a better monitor, all I can do for now is 1080p so I think Rx 580 is just fine
About Mobo what brand would you recommend ? I really trust gigabyte and otherwise I've seen a few people complaining about biostar, (I don't really believe that brand makes difference, but I'm just insecure to pick one Mobo), so if you can help me I'd be thankful =)
About Ram I think there is no problem in going for 2666 or 3000 can do that
About the power supply, is the one I have enough for this new build I'm getting ?
And last but not least important, about the SSD sorry but you were a bit over technical and I didn't understand much, a SSD of 128 or 256 gb would be enough ?

 

[camieabz]

Motherboard brands generally worth considering:

ASRock
Asus
Gigabyte
MSI

Suggest you take a look at the motherboard googledocs spreadsheet in the Motherboard section stickies for comparison of models. Biostar tend to be one of those brands that is...ok.

Your PSU ought to be fine. The ryzen CPUs aren't too hungry for power. If it's working with your current GPU, it should be fine. Should you get unexplained BSODs with the new setup, the PSU would be a definite first suspect though. Keep it for now and see how it goes.

250GB/256GB minimum is best...500GB might be better to allow for boot drive space. Depends on your budget. The 500GB drives tend to be faster than 250GB drives too.

One other thing. The 1600x does not come with a stock CPU cooler, so if you were hoping to save cash by getting a CPU with a cooler included, the 1600x is probably not ideal. The other two do have stock cooler (on the vendors I use). Check your vendor includes a cooler. If you're happy to get a separate cooler, then the 1600x is still one to consider.

 

[guilherme_furlanzinho]

Hello,

1 - What did you mean with Googledocs spreadsheet ?
2 - What is BSOD ?
3 - What do you mean with boot drive ? Wouldn't my hd be enough to boot the computer up ?

About the cpu I'll be going for the r1700 for sure =)

Just have to decide now what Mobo I should get xD

 

[camieabz]

1 - Via thread here - http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3502839/am4-motherboard-amd-ryzen-cpu-specs-comparison-list.html

Direct Link - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit?usp=sharing


2 - "This old build often crashes on games, and goes bluescreen"...If your new one does the same thing for no obvious reason, the PSU might be something to look into. I'm not saying the PSU has issues. Just thinking ahead.


3 - Yes the HDD will work, but an SSD works faster, is cooler and is quiet. Search for your HDDs in here, and compare them to some of the drives I suggested - https://www.harddrivebenchmark.net

 

[guilherme_furlanzinho]

Hello dear,

Now I understood everything, thanks a lot for your help, just one last thing before finishing the topic, would the SSD below be a good one ?

https://m.kabum.com.br/produto/85198/ssd-kingston-2-5-480gb-a400-sata-iii-leituras-500mbs-grava-es-450mbs-sa400s37-480g?origem=52&gclid=Cj0KCQjwguDeBRDCARIsAGxuU8Zs0_aD1Sn5BjqArecAH1OidYRopJaDPmj_O2Y7y4_AmR-5hMTWoi4aAgGIEALw_wcB

Or Should I get another one ? The mx 500 you told me is way expensive here haha

Need to know a good SSD with good value.

 

[camieabz]

It should be more than double the speed of a 500GB HDD. The MX500 is maybe 1.5x faster than the A400, but your budget is what it is. The MX500 shouldn't be that much more - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6nGM29

There is an M.2 MX500 (part number ends with "SSD4"), but that's not the one you want. You want the drives ending with "SSD1".

 

[erichardson909]

Ryzen 5 2600 will likely be faster than 1700 in gaming, if that's what you mainly do. Get MSI B450 Tomahawk and 16gb ddr4 3200 (2x8).

 

[guilherme_furlanzinho]

Hey Cami,

Why did you say the crucial want I want is SSD1 and not SSD4 since they're the same ?

 

[camieabz]

From this link: http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/storage-ssd-mx500



Speeds identical
Both SATA 6GB
One is 2.5", and other is M.2 (but still SATA 6GB; not NVME).

There seems to be little point in taking up a potential NVME slot with SATA speeds, when a 2.5" drive will do. If you want an NVME drive in future, you have the option without having to lose a drive. If you want an NVME drive now, they are more expensive.

See comparison of their speeds:



https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Adata-XPG-SX8200-NVMe-PCIe-M2-480GB-vs-Crucial-MX500-500GB/m482768vsm418385

If you decide you want an NVME drive now, I recommend the Adata SX8200 480GB.

 

[guilherme_furlanzinho]

Sorry bro,

Still not clear the difference to me, I mean both have the same speed but the M.2 version to me is about USD 40,00 less expensive, should I get the SSD1 even being more expensive ?

 

[camieabz]

That's between you, your budget and your plans for the system. If you'll never want an NVME drive...your call. Where I am, they're same price.

 

[guilherme_furlanzinho]

Got it, if I get the 2.5" version than I can upgrade it to NVME ?

 

[camieabz]

Sure.