Question Which CPU should I upgrade to ?

[LuKaWin10]

The CPU I have right now is an Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 with E6600 STOCK COOLER.
My mobo is a Gigabyte GP35-DS3 rev 2.1.

Give me suggestions for a CPU upgrade and a great cooler for it.
Budget reliable 50-60 euros. CPU I could try buying on AliExpress. Thanks!

 

[Lutfij]

In your current state, make sure you've flashed to the latest BIOS version. Following that you could look into the Q6600 but these are the processors you can drop onto the socket;
https://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Gigabyte/GA-P35-DS3(rev._2.1).html

 

[artk2219]

What CPU should I upgrade to? CPU I have right now is E6750 with E6600 STOCK COOLER. My mobo is P35-DS3 rev 2.1 Gigabyte. Give me suggestions for a great cooler for the CPU too, budget reliable 50-60 euros. CPU I could try buying on AliExpress. Thanks!

Is this for daily use, or as a retro gaming pc? Where are you located in the EU?

 

[faalin]

a QX9770 is the best CPU you can put in there according to your motherboard support page LINK you will need to make sure you are on BIOS F14 or newer for it.

As for cooler it a little harder, the LGA 775 mounting holes are 72mm square while the 1155 socket is 75mm square. Looking at your board there is nothing around the mounting holes so you could gently file the holes bigger to fit the socket 115x hardware for better coolers.

Depending on your case you might be able to fit a Dark Freezer x94 cooler

 

[js2]

What CPU should I upgrade to? CPU I have right now is E6750 with E6600 STOCK COOLER. My mobo is P35-DS3 rev 2.1 Gigabyte. Give me suggestions for a great cooler for the CPU too, budget reliable 50-60 euros. CPU I could try buying on AliExpress. Thanks!

An E8500. The existing cooler should do fine.

 

[LuKaWin10]

Is this for daily use, or as a retro gaming pc? Where are you located in the EU?

Croatia, used for daily use/mini retro gaming!

 

[artk2219]

Croatia, used for daily use/mini retro gaming!

Got it, i asked if it was for daily use because for 50 or 60 euros you can sometimes find some decent used office PC's with a Haswell or Skylake based CPU's , im not sure if its the same in the area you are in though. But a haswell based core i5 with 8gb of ram would be quite a nice upgrade from the core 2 duo you are currently using. Otherwise, a core 2 quad Q9650 is like 20 euros.

 

[faalin]

You want something with a Q in the front of it for a quad core. Anything with an E in the front is a dual core and your only spending money to get a faster clock speed.

 

[LuKaWin10]

Got it, i asked if it was for daily use because for 50 or 60 euros you can sometimes find some decent used office PC's with a Haswell or Skylake based CPU's , im not sure if its the same in the area you are in though. But a haswell based core i5 with 8gb of ram would be quite a nice upgrade from the core 2 duo you are currently using. Otherwise, a core 2 quad Q9650 is like 20 euros.

Yes. On AliExpress it is something like that when prices change (depends lucky days) but I need a cooler for it!

 

[LuKaWin10]

You want something with a Q in the front of it for a quad core. Anything with an E in the front is a dual core and your only spending money to get a faster clock speed.

Thanks. I am planning on some Quad core, but I don't know. Just one that I can run Windows 8.1 on very well (this one know runs okay but i want a little bit better)

 

[artk2219]

Yes. On AliExpress it is something like that when prices change (depends lucky days) but I need a cooler for it!

Got it, this cpu is currently around 20 euros, as for cooling it, its honestly not a very hot chip, so a tower cooler with 2 heat pipes should work fine. Or a relatively decent horizontal cooler.

Q9650

Cooler

 

[LuKaWin10]

Got it, this cpu is currently around 20 euros, as for cooling it, its honestly not a very hot chip, so a tower cooler with 2 heat pipes should work fine. Or a relatively decent horizontal cooler.

Q9650

Cooler

Could I maybe go for the Q9450 since it is just kind of the same, and my PSU is 350 W but if its less than 350 W or close to 300 W it will still be alright correct me if i am wrong?

 

[artk2219]

Could I maybe go for the Q9450 since it is just kind of the same, and my PSU is 350 W but if its less than 350 W or close to 300 W it will still be alright correct me if i am wrong?

Sure thing, you'll lose about 10% performance vs the 9650, but you could probably get that back with an OC. The problem is its locked on that 8x multiplier, so you have to push the FSB pretty hard to get a decent OC on it, if you were looking to do that. A 350W psu should be fine though provided you aren't also trying to push a very power hungry GPU. What are the full specs on the system?

Compare Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 / Core 2 Quad Q9650

www.cpu-world.com

 

[LuKaWin10]

Got it, this cpu is currently around 20 euros, as for cooling it, its honestly not a very hot chip, so a tower cooler with 2 heat pipes should work fine. Or a relatively decent horizontal cooler.

Q9650

Cooler

Will the CPU cooler be compatible for socket 775 (im not sure because in the description it doesn't say it but in the picture it does, and will it fit into my PC?)

 

[LuKaWin10]

Sure thing, you'll lose about 10% performance vs the 9650, but you could probably get that back with an OC. The problem is its locked on that 8x multiplier, so you have to push the FSB pretty hard to get a decent OC on it, if you were looking to do that. A 350W psu should be fine though provided you aren't also trying to push a very power hungry GPU. What are the full specs on the system?

Compare Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 / Core 2 Quad Q9650

www.cpu-world.com

Okay, specs:
GPU: GT 730
Mobo: P35-DS3 rev 2.1
Case: DELUX ATX mid Tower Case from 2007
PSU: Antec 350X 350 W
SSDs: ADATA SU650 and 870 EVO
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 250 GB
RAM: PQI CORP 400 MHZ DDR2 2x1 GB and Kingston 333 MHz DDR2 2x1 GB
DVD Drives: ASUS 1814BL and ASUS E616A
If you need more info just ask me! Also I think the cooler will fit because from the motherboard to the end of the case is 170 mm (17 cm) long

 

[LuKaWin10]

Sure thing, you'll lose about 10% performance vs the 9650, but you could probably get that back with an OC. The problem is its locked on that 8x multiplier, so you have to push the FSB pretty hard to get a decent OC on it, if you were looking to do that. A 350W psu should be fine though provided you aren't also trying to push a very power hungry GPU. What are the full specs on the system?

Compare Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 / Core 2 Quad Q9650

www.cpu-world.com

Hey, I am sending pictures and determine if it can fit.

https://imgur.com/a/NcSOhs1

Edit: provide me with good thermal paste for my CPU! Please check if it is Socket 775 compatible too!
View: https://imgur.com/a/NcSOhs1

 

[LuKaWin10]

Sure thing, you'll lose about 10% performance vs the 9650, but you could probably get that back with an OC. The problem is its locked on that 8x multiplier, so you have to push the FSB pretty hard to get a decent OC on it, if you were looking to do that. A 350W psu should be fine though provided you aren't also trying to push a very power hungry GPU. What are the full specs on the system?

Compare Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 / Core 2 Quad Q9650

www.cpu-world.com

Also, should I take the ICE200PRO or the ICE400SE. Max I can waste is 22 euros together with the processor, cooler and thermal paste, because after 22 euros I gotta pay fees for shipping and Taxes which I don't want to because it is expensive.

 

[LuKaWin10]

a QX9770 is the best CPU you can put in there according to your motherboard support page LINK you will need to make sure you are on BIOS F14 or newer for it.

As for cooler it a little harder, the LGA 775 mounting holes are 72mm square while the 1155 socket is 75mm square. Looking at your board there is nothing around the mounting holes so you could gently file the holes bigger to fit the socket 115x hardware for better coolers.

Depending on your case you might be able to fit a Dark Freezer x94 cooler

Thanks. I am planning to buy a Q9450, the QX9770 is very over powered and great, but I do not really need it. I need a great budget cooler for the Q9450! Ty!

 

[artk2219]

Hey, I am sending pictures and determine if it can fit.

https://imgur.com/a/NcSOhs1

Edit: provide me with good thermal paste for my CPU! Please check if it is Socket 775 compatible too!
View: https://imgur.com/a/NcSOhs1

Either of those tower coolers look like they should fit just fine, and they do say that they will work with 775. They come with a bit of thermal paste in the box, and the Q9450 is cool enough that the supplied thermal paste should do just fine. But if you really want to buy some paste though, this GD900 stuff does alright.

Paste

Paste Review

 

[LuKaWin10]

Either of those tower coolers look like they should fit just fine, and they do say that they will work with 775. They come with a bit of thermal paste in the box, and the Q9450 is cool enough that the supplied thermal paste should do just fine. But if you really want to buy some paste though, this GD900 stuff does alright.

Paste

Paste Review

Hey, do I need to get a LGA775 cooler bracket for the cooler? I will buy 1 that works for 775 and more just for precautions

 

[geofelt]

Try reusing your current stock cooler first.
You will need new paste to remount it.
Most generic paste will do the job.
The key to good performance with a stock cooler is proper mounting.
Here is my stock text on how to do it:
----------------how to mount the stock Intel cooler--------------

The stock Intel cooler can be tricky to install.
A poor installation will result in higher cpu temperatures.
If properly mounted, you should expect temperatures at idle to be 10-15c. over ambient.

To mount the Intel stock cooler properly, place the motherboard on top of the foam or cardboard backing that was packed with the motherboard.
The stock cooler will come with paste pre applied, it looks like three grey strips.
The 4 push pins should come in the proper position for installation, that is with the pins rotated in the opposite direction of the arrow,(clockwise)
and pulled up as far as they can go.
Take the time to play with the pushpin mechanism until you know how they work.
Orient the 4 pins so that they are exactly over the motherboard holes.
If one is out of place, you will damage the pins which are delicate.
Push down on a DIAGONAL pair of pins at the same time. Then the other pair.
When you push down on the top black pins, it expands the white plastic pins to fix the cooler in place.
If you do them one at a time, you will not get the cooler on straight.
Lastly, look at the back of the motherboard to verify that all 4 pins are equally through the motherboard, and that the cooler is on firmly.
This last step must be done, which is why the motherboard should be out of the case to do the job. Or you need a case with a opening that lets you see the pins.
It is possible to mount the cooler with the motherboard mounted in the case, but you can then never be certain that the push pins are inserted properly
unless you can verify that the pins are through the motherboard and locked.

If you should need to remove the cooler, first run the cpu to heat it up and soften the paste before shutting down and powering off the pc. That makes it easy to unstick the old cooler.
Turn the pins counter clockwise to unlock them.
You will need to clean off the old paste and reapply new if you ever take the cooler off.
Clean off old paste with alcohol and a lint free paper like a coffee filter.
Apply new paste sparingly. A small rice sized drop in the center will spread our under heat and pressure.

It is hard to use too little.
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[LuKaWin10]

Try reusing your current stock cooler first.
You will need new paste to remount it.
Most generic paste will do the job.
The key to good performance with a stock cooler is proper mounting.
Here is my stock text on how to do it:
----------------how to mount the stock Intel cooler--------------

The stock Intel cooler can be tricky to install.
A poor installation will result in higher cpu temperatures.
If properly mounted, you should expect temperatures at idle to be 10-15c. over ambient.

To mount the Intel stock cooler properly, place the motherboard on top of the foam or cardboard backing that was packed with the motherboard.
The stock cooler will come with paste pre applied, it looks like three grey strips.
The 4 push pins should come in the proper position for installation, that is with the pins rotated in the opposite direction of the arrow,(clockwise)
and pulled up as far as they can go.
Take the time to play with the pushpin mechanism until you know how they work.
Orient the 4 pins so that they are exactly over the motherboard holes.
If one is out of place, you will damage the pins which are delicate.
Push down on a DIAGONAL pair of pins at the same time. Then the other pair.
When you push down on the top black pins, it expands the white plastic pins to fix the cooler in place.
If you do them one at a time, you will not get the cooler on straight.
Lastly, look at the back of the motherboard to verify that all 4 pins are equally through the motherboard, and that the cooler is on firmly.
This last step must be done, which is why the motherboard should be out of the case to do the job. Or you need a case with a opening that lets you see the pins.
It is possible to mount the cooler with the motherboard mounted in the case, but you can then never be certain that the push pins are inserted properly
unless you can verify that the pins are through the motherboard and locked.

If you should need to remove the cooler, first run the cpu to heat it up and soften the paste before shutting down and powering off the pc. That makes it easy to unstick the old cooler.
Turn the pins counter clockwise to unlock them.
You will need to clean off the old paste and reapply new if you ever take the cooler off.
Clean off old paste with alcohol and a lint free paper like a coffee filter.
Apply new paste sparingly. A small rice sized drop in the center will spread our under heat and pressure.

It is hard to use too little.
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Thanks! I am going to get a different cooler and just keep the stock cooler, and change the processor too.