[SOLVED] Which GPU would make the most sense for my PC?

[hellzer]

Current spec:

Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6Ghz
Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite mb
GEFORCE GTX 1080 ARMOR 8G OC GPU (want to replace this)
G.SKILL Flare X 32GB 3200MHz CL14 DDR4 KIT RAM
2x Samsung Evo SSD's (850 & 860 models)
RM 650x PSU

So my graphics card is the oldest one out here and I could use an upgrade. Been playing at 1080p no problem but I feel like it's time to step it up (especially because there is a thing going on for me in the games where if it has no Anti-Aliasing option, the game textures look jagged and flickery as hell. Something I've tried dealing with but nothing helps besides higher resolution.).

Now 650W PSU seems to be fine for most high end GPUs out there, regardless of what their recommendations state, if the math adds up... GTX 1080 doesn't eat more than 180W by itself and recommended PSU is 500W. Now if I have 650W, would that mean I can go up to 330W GPU with no overclocking... Something like RTX 3080 or that would be an overkill in terms of Watts? I don't think my system eats more than 400W combined. So if that is correct, I don't think that I need a more powerful power source.

But the question is which GPU would be the smartest buy?

Few things to note:
I have 24 inch, 144 Hz FreeSync monitor. That with Dynamic super resolution should allow me to play 2K or even 4K with a good GPU..? However, I don't need more than 70-75 FPS on average. Could I get that on 4K high settings with 3070 TI or 6800 XT? Do I need a better one?
Budget: ~1000-1300$
Goal: Only gaming.

p.s. Should I wait for any of the upcoming stuff? Etc. In other words, is it a good time to buy a GPU right now?

 

[oldcracc]

You could easily game 4k high settings on a 3060 Ti, you'll be completely fine on a 3070 Ti, google benchmarks around 3060 TI - 3080 and pick the one that seems the most logical for you in terms of budget and performance.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I’m not an expert on newer cards, I’ve got a gtx 1070, waiting on an rtx 2070 to arrive. But it will come down to how much you want to spend. If I recall, I think the 2070 is about equal to maybe slightly faster than the normal 1080. 1080ti is a different story I think. But I’d say to get an update you probably want to be minimum at a 3060ti. However it depends on how much you want to spend with cards overpriced these days. You should be able to get about 400 for a gtx 1080 though so that may up your budget.

 

[hellzer]

I'll give you some local prices, you tell me which is the best buy... They seem to be changing a lot and all over the place.

1. GeForce RTX 3080, (Gigabyte GV-N3080VISION OC-10GD 2.0 LHR version NVIDIA, 10 GB, GDDR6X, PCI-E 4.0 x 16, Processor frequency 1800 MHz) - 1100 euros (cheapest, rest go even up to 2k euros, some not even TI and cost as much... weird?)

2. GIGABYTE GeForce RTX™ 3070 Ti GAMING OC 8G - 1073 euros,
MSI GEFORCE RTX 3070 TI GAMING X TRIO 8G - 1094 euros.
GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (Gigabyte GV-N307TGAMING OC-8GD NVIDIA, 8 GB, GDDR6X, PCI-E 4.0 x 16, Processor frequency 1830 MHz, HDMI jungtys quantity 2, Memory clock speed 19000 MHz) - 1094 euros.

3. Gigabyte Radeon RX 6800 XT Gaming OC 16GB GDDR6 256bit - 1297 euros
Radeon RX 6800 XT (Gigabyte GV-R68XTGAMING OC-16GD AMD, 16 GB, GDDR6, PCI-E 4.0 X 16, HDMI Ports Quantity 2, Memory Clock Speed 1‎6000 MHz, Processor Frequency 2045 MHz) - 1215 euros.
Radeon RX 6800 XT (GDDR6, PCI-E 4.0 x 16, Gigabyte GV-R68XTGAMING OC-16GD AMD, 16 GB, HDMI quantity 2, Memory clock speed 1‎6000 MHz, Processor frequency 2045 MHz) - 1257 euros
Asrock Radeon RX 6800 XT Phantom Gaming D OC 16GB GDDR6 256bit - 1342 euros

 

[DSzymborski]

Current spec:

Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6Ghz
Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite mb
GEFORCE GTX 1080 ARMOR 8G OC GPU (want to replace this)
G.SKILL Flare X 32GB 3200MHz CL14 DDR4 KIT RAM
2x Samsung Evo SSD's (850 & 860 models)
RM 650x PSU

So my graphics card is the oldest one out here and I could use an upgrade. Been playing at 1080p no problem but I feel like it's time to step it up (especially because there is a thing going on for me in the games where if it has no Anti-Aliasing option, the game textures look jagged and flickery as hell. Something I've tried dealing with but nothing helps besides higher resolution.).

Now 650W PSU seems to be fine for most high end GPUs out there, regardless of what their recommendations state, if the math adds up... GTX 1080 doesn't eat more than 180W by itself and recommended PSU is 500W. Now if I have 650W, would that mean I can go up to 330W GPU with no overclocking... Something like RTX 3080 or that would be an overkill in terms of Watts? I don't think my system eats more than 400W combined. So if that is correct, I don't think that I need a more powerful power source.

But the question is which GPU would be the smartest buy?

Few things to note:
I have 24 inch, 144 Hz FreeSync monitor. That with Dynamic super resolution should allow me to play 2K or even 4K with a good GPU..? However, I don't need more than 70-75 FPS on average. Could I get that on 4K high settings with 3070 TI or 6800 XT? Do I need a better one?
Budget: ~1000-1300$
Goal: Only gaming.

p.s. Should I wait for any of the upcoming stuff? Etc. In other words, is it a good time to buy a GPU right now?

Generally speaking, the 3080 is very power spiky, so I'd actually avoid with this PSU, as good as it is.

What's the native resolution of this monitor?

 

[hellzer]

Generally speaking, the 3080 is very power spiky, so I'd actually avoid with this PSU, as good as it is.

What's the native resolution of this monitor?

Even when I could get 3080 for ~120 euros cheaper than XT 6800?

My monitors native is 1080p.

 

[DSzymborski]

Even when I could get 3080 for 200 euros cheaper than XT 6800?

My monitors native is 1080p.

A good deal doesn't change the spiky nature of the 3080/3090. If you're getting a 3080, I'd upgrade the PSU.

As for the monitor, it's hard to justify a 3080 for a 1080p monitor of any refresh rate. DSR doesn't allow you to actually play at higher resolutions; it's a sampling technique that improves the anti-aliasing if you can take the performance hit. But you're still playing at 1080p. Unless you have plans to upgrade to an actual high-refresh 1440p or a 4K monitor, that's a lot of extra money spent for a slight improvement in anti-aliasing technique.

 

[hellzer]

A good deal doesn't change the spiky nature of the 3080/3090. If you're getting a 3080, I'd upgrade the PSU.

As for the monitor, it's hard to justify a 3080 for a 1080p monitor of any refresh rate. DSR doesn't allow you to actually play at higher resolutions; it's a sampling technique that improves the anti-aliasing if you can take the performance hit. But you're still playing at 1080p. Unless you have plans to upgrade to an actual high-refresh 1440p or a 4K monitor, that's a lot of extra money spent for a slight improvement in anti-aliasing technique.

EDIT: For gaming I think 2K with high FPS is better than 4K at 60. And it would cost me less.
Question is, can I reliably pull around 144 FPS on 2K? And if so which GPU would give me that without running hot? Because those new big ass GPU's would cover the top of my chipset which already runs quite hot.
6800 XT would be fine?